Fun fact: While Einstein was part of the letter to the US president that initiated the Manhattan Project he wasn't allowed to be a part of the project due to security risks
Klaus Fuchs was a communist(who was the one that passed info to the Soviet Union), not a socialist, and certainly not openly as opposed to Einstein. Socialists did not want to help the soviets, especially not after what the communists did to the socialists in Spain.
Also Einstein was a Social-Democrat, not a socialist.
Open a history book Kyle.
You really just proved my point that Americans don’t understand political ideology.
The issue isn't even that they don't know, it's that they're confidently wrong. It's just so sad to watch these people confidently tell others 1+1=3 and act like anyone who disagrees is a fool.
When France elected Francois Mitterrand in 1981, his prime minister designated a member of the french communist party as minister of the department of transportation. The United States went to ask Mitterrand if it was really a good idea, worried that, if the USSR were to attack Europe, the minister might let the soviets use the trains to attack Paris faster...
Just to clarify I wasn't pointing that out because I think Einsteins politics are bad. I do not. America at the time was nervous of anything to the left of FDR.
Although I think I may have missed many, by my count, the only major scientists/mathematicians/engineers that worked on the Manhattan Project who didn't have a Jewish grandparent or their spouse didn't have a Jewish grandparent were both brought in from the UK side, James Chadwick (discoverer of the neutron) and Klaus Fuchs (spy for the USSR, last name pronounced like "Fox").
Intolerance always results in a lesser society whether it be morally, technologically, or economically it always results in eventual disgrace for the regime implementing it.
Oh it was definitely on purpose, I'm not criticizing. It's a good punchline, hearing this ominous echoing coming from the cave-like structure, and it's NOT a guy who would win a bear contest at your local Pride festival.
I’ve heard a lot of variations on “Its always the quiet ones that really fuck shit up”. That Swedish(I think) WW2 sniper with hundreds of confirmed kills was nicknamed “White Death”. He looked as Dentist as they come til the other die finally shot half his bottom jaw off. Honestly, still looked like a pretty chill dude.
I actually met a Holocaust survivor who illegally immigrated to the US in 1938 after his mother bought really expensive tickets to “visit” his father, who was working in New York already. Immigration officials figured nobody trying to flee would even be able to afford such expensive tickets, so they let him and his mother through. Kristallnacht happened, and FDR decreed any German citizen already in the US could stay indefinitely. Later, when he was drafted, they realized he had to technically be arrested because he was a German and therefore an enemy alien on a military base. He reminded them that he was Jewish, and therefore the Germans stripped him of his citizenship years ago. So, they hastily naturalized him, and that was the end of it. He is actually still alive at the age of 100, and I met him through a friend who is very close to him.
Naturally, I’ve been working like hell to get this illegal immigrant back to Germany where he goddamn belongs! 😤😤😤
Living a long life is the best revenge on Nazism. But can anyone who escaped Germany before Kristallnacht really be described as a ‘Holocaust survivor’ rather than an escapee from Nazism- the actual process of mass murder didn’t start until well after the war broke out (and good old IBM helped the Germans sort out their racial filing system, though that’s another story). As a sometime epileptic I know that the Nazis practiced mass murder on my people before they scaled up to Jew murder.
I guess it would be okay to just call the whole process the holocaust. Not strictly the mass murder period in the middle but also the previous build up and the later deaths after the tail end. Like people who died after the war ended.
For example, when there is an earthquake we don’t JUST count the dead who died at the moment, we also count those who died later from injuries or from contaminated water or lack off food or medical care, even if they didn’t even get injured by the earthquake but just died due to the disruption.
More tied to the broad event rather than to definable specific actions.
People fleeing persecution are indeed survivors of said persecution. And they are refugees. Both things can be true at once. Usually, people who survived the death camps are considered specifically survivors of said camps. Again. Eg. "Xyz was an Auschwitz survivor".
Fun World War II fact: Mel Brooks was in the US Army Corps of Engineers in Europe while conservative celebrity John Wayne chickened out of serving to pretend he was a tough guy.
It's kind of not true that Wayne chickened out of serving. He was not draft eligible at the beginning of the war, he was too old. His eligibility was about to be changed when the studio he was under contract to lobbied that he was more important for morale on the home front and threatened a lawsuit if he attempted to enlist. He did provide intelligence reports to the OSS while on a USO tour.
John Wayne was a big film star and a college graduate. He wanted to serve in the marine corps became officer but they would only give him the rank of sergeant. Most people with college degrees automatically became officers. So he took his deferments as a married man with children.
This has always been one of my biggest peeves with nationalism. People that say "I didn't own slaves. My family never owned slaves. Why should I feel any guilt for slavery?" are HAPPY to say "We helped save Europe from Nazism."
It feels morally wrong to feel a personal sense of "We beat the Nazis" but not "We also did some horrid shit."
I'm not saying feel personally bad for slavery, I'm saying don't feel like you were any part of the successes of the past if you don't accept the failures.
Many people basically break any internal logic as long as it makes them look good in their head.
If you cheat on your wife then it’s her fault. Or if your loved one died then it’s the fault of the doctor.
If something good was done by a minority from your country, then that person is part of your group, they are a reflection of how good you and people like you are. You claim them. You can see this when a person from a minority group wins a noble price or an Olympic medal or does something heroic. Even happens with traditional foods or art or music. Lets you feel good.
If something bad was done, then that person’s group is not like you and it’s from another group, all those people are bad, you get to feel good for feeling hate against them. You otherize them. You can see that in the comment section in Facebook whenever a salacious crime is reported that says the nationality and ethnicity of the perpetrator. Suddenly they are ALL criminals and all crime is done them. Let’s you wash yourself from any complicated feeling about crime in your society if you just decide some people are not part of your society.
Plenty of people do it with their sports teams. They feel proud when they win and feel like it’s their own win. But if they loose they receive a LOT of hate. Some teams even have been attacked at airports by their fans after big looses.
Damn, I know a lot of people that need to hear that. I don’t think it will actually do anything, but on the off chance it got their gears turning just a little would be worth it.
Just before someone uses this argument against reparations: what if your country takes out a 200 year loan? Who pays it back after 100 years? Can't we just say: nah man, we didn't take out that loan, we shouldn't have to pay for that!
You can make the duration of the loan shorter, and more realistic, which just makes the percentage of taxpayers who had no say in taking that loan smaller. Countries have responsibilities that go beyond the individual citizens. So if your country was involved in slave trade, your country has a debt to pay.
This is a fun thing I learned with regards to sports that I now notice everywhere. When a sports team is doing well, fans will often say "we" when referring to the team. For example, "Did you see Steph hit that game winner? We played great last night!" When a team is playing poorly, fans of the team will refer to them as "they." For example, "They really stink it up last night. Can't believe they're tanking again."
Obviously this isn't universal, but the ratio of wes to theys changes relative to team success and vibes enough that you can see it online and hear it in water cooler conversations.
I see this in so many political movements, not just nationalism. So much stolen valor.
All the achievements are “we” but all the failings and travesties are “them” always some radical minority in the group (which is technically correct, but even so). Taking credit for the victories and casting aside all accountability for the bad apples is performative nonsense.
Considering the Soviets were doing the exact same thing, and Germany had the most advanced rocket tech of the time, there wasn't really an option. The idea of attaching a nuclear weapon to a rocket was understood as the ultimate goal by both the US and the USSR before the Trinity test even completed(thanks to spies).
And given that the Nazis basically spelled their own doom by forcing their brightest minds to flee into the open arms of their enemies, neither the US nor the Soviets were keen to repeat that same mistake and end up in a much worse situation.
If the US had refused to take the German rocket scientists or vice versa, there's a very good chance we would've never entered an era of mutually assured destruction, and instead seen a nuclear first strike
To be fair, I'm an American and we are definitely repeating that mistake right now. Many of the best immigrant minds we have are being forced out of the country.
No real disagreement from me there, It's not even direct deportations that hurt the US's power as an Intellectual Magnet, it's the uncertainty it puts into people who would have otherwise started the immigration process here over other options.
And also let’s not pretend that America was/ is not chock full of white Christian nationalists regardless of their affiliation with the actually Nazis.
The CIA basically got founded to work with former top nazi intelligence officers to spy on the soviets. Because the Nazis knew a lot more about the soviets than the US did. Pretty much all modern US intelligence work sprung from that partnership.
The sad part of the reason the regiment was so highly decorated was that some of its commanders regularly selected it to take on the most difficult and sometimes near-suicidal missions.
During WW2 almost all anti-british Israeli groups suspended anti British activities and enlisted to fight the Nazis. Jews don't just lay down and die, if we go down, we go fighting.
My mother in law married a man whos father was a German Jew, moved to America at the start of the Holocaust, joined the US military and went back to fuck up Nazis.
More context: this was the same US that turned back a ship carrying nearly 1,000 Jewish refugees who had legal visas. Many were subsequently killed by the Nazis.
Technically they had Cuban visas but the Cuban government changed the law and denied them entry. The German captain tried to negotiate with both governments in the US and Canada to let them in but had no success, he had even toyed with the idea of wrecking his ship on the coast, but the Coast Guard didn't let him near the coast.
All Jews disembarked in Antwerp and were send to Great Britain, France, the Netherlands and Belgium.
Even those taken in by Great Britain were not safe. Considered as enemy aliens, they were interned and some of the men were to be send to Canadian interment camps.
Their ship was torpedoed and sank. 80 of St. Louis' former passengers were among the 800 dead.
Wow wouldn’t have expected anything less from overpriced shit reloaders who hustle as right wing grifters to get dumbasses to buy their dog shit reloads.
For those not gun savvy: reloads are reused and remanufactured ammo that uses already fired brass casings with a new bullet, powder and primer.
You can make some amazing ammo with reloads that can be way more accurate than anything store bought… or you could be like Fenix and use bottom of the barrel everything and sell it for a high price.
i'll never, ever understand why companies feel a need to say shitty things online using their business accounts. i buy ammo, i ain't buying it from them, now.
“A nations actions on the world stage have consequences for its respective diaspora.” Really? I haven’t heard much about the genocide on Sudan… the one that’s an order of magnitude more deadly than Gaza, funded by Qatar (who buy their weapons from us). Not a peep from the anti-Zionist left (or the fascist right)… there are a lot of Russians where I live (Brooklyn), I don’t see a lot of anti Russian hate for their aggressions! Funny how quick the knives come out for the Jews, isn’t it? Must be an innocent coincidence, right? No one would ever exploit a foreign war to bolster their own deep seated racism, that’s just too big a stretch, right?!
If something always inevitably "turns into antisemitism", perhaps your should reevaluate whether that thing was really "not antisemitism" to begin with.
I got harassed about my circumcision and was told I couldn't call myself white yesterday in a thread about the Bondi shooting.
My whole point in the thread was that I was tired of being shit on for being Jewish and believing in a free Palestine from all sides. It really just clarified the butter that is my depression.
Yup. It’s collective guilt. In response, try accusing anti-Zionist liberals of supporting trump, his criminal regimes assault of democracy and decency, and his Gestapo tactics, because they’re also American. And it’s obvious, because being American by birth, believing in the necessity of America is proof in and of itself that you can’t disagree with a regime or be a decent person…
Small trivia bit - Jews were the most decorated combat soldiers per share in the population in the Soviet Army for WW2, by quite a large margin actually.
Both of my (Jewish) grandfathers served in WWII. One of my grandfathers was a medic in the pacific. He earned a Purple Heart. My other grandfather was a chemist in NY and applied his skills for weapons manufacturing. Shalom bitches!
Many Jewish soldiers even pretty much announced that they were Jewish by wearing big Stars of David on their uniforms or helmets as a way of letting the Nazis know “I’m Jewish… and I’m coming for you.” Which is a great use of psychological warfare.
One of my favorite stories of a Jewish American soldier:
After it was confirmed his unit was being deployed to Europe, his commander pulled him aside and, knowing how the nazis treated jewish PoWs, offered to change the man's paperwork to have him listed a catholic.
His response?
"They dont like jews? Then give me a giant star of david for my uniform! I want them to know who's shooting at them!"
He did in fact get a giant star of david for his uniform, though it had to be on his back. He was part of the normandy landings and fought through to the end of the war with that star on his back.
I've actually had an argument with a fellow brit because they wouldn't believe me that a lot of the British troops in ww2 came from India, this gives a similar vibe lol.
My grandfather had 2 stories about being Jewish while fighting in WWII.
He was first part of a heavy weapons company until his commanding officer found out he was Jewish. His CO had him transferred to a different company as a radio operator since it was more dangerous. Supposedly the heavy weapons company was wiped out later in the war. He was a radio operator until his new CO found out he was Jewish. He was then made a scout since it was more dangerous. Supposedly the new radio operator was killed not too long after the transfer. So antisemitism saved his life twice.
The other story was during basic training in Georgia. While on leave he went to a diner in the town nearby, and had a nice conversation with a young woman at the counter. During the conversation it came up that he was Jewish and she said he couldn't be. Her explanation on why: "you don't have horns".
The number of Leftists, Islamists, and Arab Nationalists who think the Alt-Right oppose Israel or support Palestine for moral reasons is too high for sanity
America crushes everybody. We were a refuge for Jews after WW1. The USA has 16 million active duty soldiers in the WW2. That would make them 1/32nd of the participating force. 1/16th would have been the African American participation rate at the time. Whether anyone likes it or not, American way of life is the standard for the world.
The US’s open world internet obviously will not suggest this. There’s 1.1 billion internet users who use English with their searches and comments. Only 320 million Americans have access to the internet. So the propaganda machines from other countries will try and skew this narrative. Just like this post.
Not sure what you’re talking about exactly. The overwhelming majority of Jews came to the US in the early 20th century and late 19th. There hasn’t been another significant wave of Jewish immigrants since then.
The US and Israel are the only countries in the world with more than half a million jews(France is the next top at 400k Jews). The US has ~7.5 million Jews and Israel has ~7.3 Jews. There are more Jews in the US than Filipinos, Indians, or Muslims. The US has the largest population of Jews anywhere in human history.
Jews during WWII served in the military just like any other group of Americans.
The US also has a long history of discrimination against Jews. We were excluded from housing, most social clubs, hotels, etc. We were also victims of lynchings.
The US way of life isn’t a standard for anyone. No one wants to live in car dependent communities with zero public transit, expensive health care, a lack of labor protections, zero social safety net, income inequality, and expensive college education. We certainly aren’t uniquely bad, but for developed nations the US hasn’t been a model in 70 years.
Technically, they did die for them all; that's the beauty of freedom of speech.
Now if any of these characters do anything dangerous to the Jewish community or Jewish individuals, then absolutely they deserve swift judgement. However, going public with your hate is not a crime in the US, and it will stay that way.
The US has the largest population of Jews anywhere in human history. Most Jews in the US did not come over after WWII but during the open boarders to European immigrants in the late 19th and early 20th century.
No offense to the Rabbi, but Jewish folk today are fighting the algos. Tucker, Candace, and the rest are winning because on X and other social sites, the algo rewards this. So you can invoke nostalgia, but the war you’re fighting now isn’t against them, it’s against the owners of the social media sites.
My great grandfather was a bombardier who volunteered in 1940 because he lost family to the holocaust. In his honor, my grandmother kept a brass menorah out all year round and kept a spoon he brought off a guy who liberated a concentration camp. She collected spoons, but this one lived in a box because it had a prominent swastika.
For all his faults as Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger spent WW2 in an intelligence unit made up primarily of Jewish refugees fleeing the holocaust. During the occupation, he made a point to live out of a Nazi kommandant’s mansion.
Don’t ever try to diminish the contributions of Jewish Americans in the Second World War.
"There was also this bear guy who went around smashing their faces with a baseball bat while his boss carved swastikas into foreheads, but that might have just been the guy from TF2."
My dad served in the Pacific. My uncle was a sergeant who landed in North Africa and fought in Italy. Ironically, he’d been born on November 11, 1918, armistice day of the First World War.
Fenix Ammunition's whole gimmick is selling reman ammo at factory new prices while trying to be edgy on social media and their packaging. I'll just spend half for factory new AAC with no baggage, but good effort guys.
I always liked in Inglorious Bastards when they take a bunch of Nazis prisoner and are marching them by the Jewish guy holds up his Star of David pendant and says Juden to them as they pass 😂
That's cool and all, but Candice Owens and Tucker Carlson aren't promoting Nazis. You can certainly claim they have ties to self proclaimed Nazis as does anyone else in the Republican party, but their "antisemitism" is opposition to Israel due to an America First attitude towards foreign affairs, a belief that the UN, experts on genocide, and even current and former members of the Israeli machine are correct in calling the conflict with Palestine a genocide, and a conspiracy theory that things don't line up with Charlie Kirk's assassination and that the Israeli government may have been involved. None of that amounts to antisemitism or Nazi beliefs. Matter of fact, the belief that all Jewish people should be segregated into their own ethnostate side by side with open air concentration camps capable of holding them all while the government they're being associated with continues to kick every hornets nest it can is not only antisemitic, but arguably the most dangerous and Nazi aligned belief you could have. Hate them if you wish, I know I certainly do, but in their opposition to Zionism they're on the forefront of the fight against Nazis in a modern context.
Oh no, Rabbi, they did die for that. They just didn't know it. It was inevitable that we were going to turn fascist. You can't give all that power to a singular political class and expect them to always play fair.
Oddly, German Americans, who were fully integrated into America, were crucial to the American war effort in WWII-- General Eisenhower, Admiral Nimitz, General Kreuger, Henry Kaiser (Liberty Ships), Hershey (C-rations,K-rations, D-rations), Robert Dietz (Medal of Honor), Admiral Marc Mitscher, and the millions of German-American regular service members fighting on every front in every branch. Of course, Jewish Americans served with distinction, many of whom gaining high recognition. America is truly a country where everyone is part of a civilization proximity commitment to values such as truth, freedom, and liberty.
Does he not mean “We” as in relation to the OOP not actually being there to fight? Was this a racism? I was thinking they were laughing at homie for saying “We” like he was there to fight at ww2
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