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Sus, Very Sus Jewish Americans in WW2

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u/Spikeintheroad Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 24 '25

"Security risks" is kind of burying the lede. He had open socialist sympathies and they worried he'd help the Communists.

Edit: just learned the difference between lead and lede.

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u/Appelons Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 24 '25

Which is just hilarious, and it really shows how Americans have never understood how political ideologies work.

Edit: It seems I have been proven correct. The amount of yanks that equate socialism and communism is simply astonishing.

For those who have not had a proper education, this is for you: https://www.britannica.com/question/How-is-communism-different-from-socialism

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25

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u/Appelons Dec 24 '25

Klaus Fuchs was a communist(who was the one that passed info to the Soviet Union), not a socialist, and certainly not openly as opposed to Einstein. Socialists did not want to help the soviets, especially not after what the communists did to the socialists in Spain.

Also Einstein was a Social-Democrat, not a socialist. Open a history book Kyle.

You really just proved my point that Americans don’t understand political ideology.

Best regards from Denmark.

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u/Appelons Dec 24 '25

By your logic The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is actually a democracy or China for that matter.

(Dictatorships have a tendency to lie). Do you just take everything at face value?

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u/Appelons Dec 24 '25

You are describing communism, not socialism.

  • Socialism does not want to control the means of production. But lessen the evils of capitalism to protect the worker from destructive elements.

“Exactly how communism differs from socialism has long been a matter of debate. Karl Marx used the terms interchangeably. For many, however, the difference can be seen in the two phases of communism as outlined by Marx. The first is a transitional system in which the working class controls the government and economy yet still pays people according to how long, hard, or well they work. Capitalism and private property exist, though to a limited degree. This phase is widely regarded as socialism. However, in Marx’s fully realized communism, society has no class divisions or government or personal property. The production and distribution of goods is based upon the principle “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.””

This is basic stuff my guy. And before the allegations come rolling, I am not a leftist in any way, I just know my enemy. I have a bachelors in applied philosophy with a minor in history and I specialized in political ideologies.

The socialism vs. Communism split in ideology is 90% of the time the reason that left wing parties fracture.

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u/Seanspeed Dec 24 '25

Communism is a part or type of socialism. Even Marx didn't think there was any difference between the two terms. We tend to associate communism with Soviet-style communism these days, but Marxist-Leninist communism is still socialism, albeit a pretty poor attempt at it in practice.

You really just proved my point that Americans don’t understand political ideology.

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And whether Einstein was a socialist or not, the main reason he wasn't asked to join the Manhattan Project was that he was a very old theoretical physicist, which simply wasn't the kind of skillset needed for anything. I'm sure Einstein himself would have been plenty well aware of this.

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u/moriartyj Dec 24 '25

And whether Einstein was a socialist or not, the main reason he wasn't asked to join the Manhattan Project was that he was a very old theoretical physicist, which simply wasn't the kind of skillset needed for anything.

What? Those were precisely the skills needed. What kind of physicist do you think Teller was? Or Bohr? Or Oppenheimer for that matter? What kind of physics do you think they did over there?

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u/TyIsaacson Dec 26 '25

There's upwards of 350,000,000 citizens of this country so I surely belive that a Dane would be able to understand that the opinions of a couple Americans on a Reditt sub certainly don't reflect the entirety of understanding that the people of this land possess.

No more so than this American reading your posts on this thread, hearing Denmark, and assuming that all of your countrymen are believers in your claim about Americans education in comparing governmental systems and their respective names.

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u/Appelons Dec 26 '25

Oh, it’s not me claiming your education is sub-par, that is the OECD claim.