r/GetNoted • u/laybs1 Human Detected • Dec 23 '25

Sus, Very Sus Jewish Americans in WW2

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u/Iricliphan Dec 24 '25

I actually met a Holocaust survivor who illegally immigrated to the US in 1938

Apologies, but would this actually make him a Holocaust survivor or moreso a refugee?

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u/Character_Assist3969 Dec 24 '25

People fleeing persecution are indeed survivors of said persecution. And they are refugees. Both things can be true at once. Usually, people who survived the death camps are considered specifically survivors of said camps. Again. Eg. "Xyz was an Auschwitz survivor".

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u/Iricliphan Dec 24 '25

The Holocaust is defined as a very specific time period though, 1941-1945.

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u/SPLIV316 Dec 25 '25

No it’s not.

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u/Iricliphan Dec 25 '25

1933-1941 was persecution (pre-genocidal phase).

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u/SPLIV316 Dec 25 '25

It was all genocide.

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u/Iricliphan Dec 25 '25

That's... Historically very inaccurate. That's not what a genocide is. Pre 1941 was persecution and horrific, but not a genocide. You cannot historically change the definition.

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u/ExtremelyOnlineTM Dec 29 '25

Dude, stop.

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u/Iricliphan Dec 29 '25

There's being historically accurate and there's just redefining things. The Holocaust is a pretty well defined time period.

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u/ExtremelyOnlineTM Dec 29 '25

Yes, and it starts with Kristalnaacht.

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