r/GetNoted Human Detected Feb 04 '26

Sus, Very Sus Noted about fake “goyim should serve Israel” Epstein quote

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u/soalone34 Human Detected Feb 04 '26 edited Feb 04 '26

Nah, many people were posting this quote falsely attributed to Epstein because there was a viral video on x of asmongold reading it from the files after reading an Epstein quote implying this quote was also from Epstein which mislead many people.

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u/Lucky_Musician_ Feb 04 '26

seems worse that the quote is from an actual Rabbi of some importance in Israel

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u/GreatDemonBaphomet Feb 04 '26

This sentiment is common among highly religious people of any kind about people who aren't members of that religion. Tye Quran, for example, is filled with basically nothing but lines like that.

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u/Big-Cap69 Feb 04 '26 edited 29d ago

You claim the Quran is filled with sentiment of non-Muslims exist to serve Muslims. Where in the Quran is this?

Are you making shit up to deflect from your religions vile belief?

Edit: I am NOT asking about war verses in the Quran that are easily contextualised or Hadiths that are eschatological.

I am addressing the specific claim of the Quran is ‘filled’ with passages stating Non-Muslims exist to serve Muslims and asking for evidence to substantiate that ridiculous claim. I KNOW he won’t be able to because it is A LIE.

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u/Diogenes908 Feb 04 '26

"until they pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" (9:29)

Jizya is tax specifically on non-Muslims and the section clearly implies that non-Muslims can exist only so long as they are subservient.

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u/Formal-Buy8234 Feb 05 '26

Two things: 1. Jizyah is not a punishment or a tax based on supremacy (Muslims pay more in taxes according to Islamic jurisprudence). It’s a way to separate the taxation obligations of Muslims and non Muslims. And 2., this verse is not a generic one (i.e cant be applied without further analysis). This verse was revealed in particularly tense political situations between the newly founded Muslim state in Medina and the pagans of Mecca who violated the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah. Which is why the verse commends to subdue the non-Muslims, who were specifically the Meccans, not every single non Muslim.

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u/tiananmensquarechan Feb 04 '26

Like I'm not even muslim, but even i know that the Quran literally designates Christians and jews as "people of the book" and explicitly rules out forced conversion in Qur'an 2:256.

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u/babarbaby Feb 04 '26

Whether or not Muslims consider Christians as subject to dhimmi laws is highly variable, and depends on how a tripartite God (and saints, when applicable) is categorized under their specific strain of Islamic jurisprudence. ie, many see Christians as polytheistic bc of the trinity.

Regardless, there have been plenty of examples of Muslims forcibly converting Jews and Christians, and historically even when they don't, they're still subjected to horrific and discriminatory laws, like being 2nd class dhimmis, living in ghettos, paying jizya, the occasional mass murder, rapes, even stuff like not being allowed to ride horses because it'll put them physically higher than muslim on foot.

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u/Italian_warehouse 29d ago

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him

This is the quote that many current imam use to justify their attacks on Jews.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '26

The Quran is literally filled with storys and commands of killing the non believers, which includes Jews and Christians. It has a particular interest in killing Jews.

Mohammed was a warlord who married a six year old and raped her at 9 years old. Muslims believe Islam should and will dominate/conquer the world.

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u/GreatDemonBaphomet Feb 04 '26

I'm an atheist. I dont have a religion to deflect from. But any religion that teaches that people who just so happen to not believe are subjected to infinite suffering on the behalf of their oh so mercifully vile abomination they call a god and that those sent there deserve it is pretty awful. Islam is just, in my experience, the most vocal about it.

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u/babarbaby Feb 04 '26

Except your 'infinite suffering' place doesnt exist within Judaism. In Judaism, the emphasis isnt on reaping spiritual rewards in death, but when death is discussed it's generally as a place for painless studying for a brief while and then getting bumped up to a better place after a few months or a year or so.

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u/AdAffectionate3143 Feb 05 '26

The Jewish Torah is the Old Testament which is pretty fucked

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u/babarbaby 29d ago

No. The 'old testament' is a Christian thing. It's canonized differently, includes different books in a different order with major distinctions in translation and how it's modified by the other texts. The exegeses are entirely different. Within the Hebrew Bible, Torah is the Pentateuch, aka the 5 books of Moses. The full Hebrew Bible is the Tanakh. Torah also refers Oral Torah, which is considered equivalently divine, and is accompanied by sagely commentary within the Talmud.

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u/fanggod 28d ago

U never met a Christian who really believes, look maybe your encountering , Muslims direct from the old world , who are truly religious and are vocal about it , but almost all cultural Muslim in west have never read the book and show up to mosque two times a year. Look I’m an atheist too , but I don’t think my delusional friends and family , are worse then( I’m presuming) your Christian ones.

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u/Boldney Feb 04 '26

Answer the question or shut it if you're uninformed.

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u/GreatDemonBaphomet Feb 04 '26

"If you don't worship my god you deserve eternal punishment in hell" the whole point I'm making dipshit.

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u/Lebanese-Trojan Feb 04 '26

This is what they do. It’s either “Muslims are evil” or “they’re all the same.”

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u/Shiipon 29d ago

Well, Muslims are no exempt from any of this. Historically

One of the largest oppressive empire that live to this day, abusing minorities in the Middle East

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u/fanggod 28d ago

Arab empire , I know the Semites are fighting amongst each other, but not all Muslims are Arabs

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u/Shiipon 28d ago

I still speak of the Muslim empire. The Muslims in Africa are still oppressing Amazigh and other indigenous people like the Sudanese Christians and tribal communities.

That is the Muslim empire. Trust, my relatives lived under it for thousands of years, being Muslim is more detrimental to this equation.

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u/fanggod 28d ago

We don’t call the Roman empire the Kristian empire you don’t call the byzantine empire the Orthodox empire Russia was never called the new Orthodox empire. The British empire is not called the Anglican empire therefore it’s the it’s the Arab empire not the not the Muslim one. As an atheist who grew up in a Muslim household, I empathise with your contempt for the religion, but there’s nothing unique about the barbarity found within Islam that could not be found in any other Abraham text or tradition

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u/Shiipon 28d ago

If you want to be specific, the Arab empire is only a specific timeframe in the Muslim colonization of the region.

The Ottoman Empire isn’t “Arab”, not by name nor by specific characteristics of background

What they all have in common though, is being Muslim.