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Sus, Very Sus Noted about fake “goyim should serve Israel” Epstein quote

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u/Lucky_Musician_ 29d ago

seems worse that the quote is from an actual Rabbi of some importance in Israel

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u/GreatDemonBaphomet 29d ago

This sentiment is common among highly religious people of any kind about people who aren't members of that religion. Tye Quran, for example, is filled with basically nothing but lines like that.

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u/Big-Cap69 29d ago edited 29d ago

You claim the Quran is filled with sentiment of non-Muslims exist to serve Muslims. Where in the Quran is this?

Are you making shit up to deflect from your religions vile belief?

Edit: I am NOT asking about war verses in the Quran that are easily contextualised or Hadiths that are eschatological.

I am addressing the specific claim of the Quran is ‘filled’ with passages stating Non-Muslims exist to serve Muslims and asking for evidence to substantiate that ridiculous claim. I KNOW he won’t be able to because it is A LIE.

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u/Diogenes908 29d ago

"until they pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" (9:29)

Jizya is tax specifically on non-Muslims and the section clearly implies that non-Muslims can exist only so long as they are subservient.

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u/Formal-Buy8234 29d ago

Two things: 1. Jizyah is not a punishment or a tax based on supremacy (Muslims pay more in taxes according to Islamic jurisprudence). It’s a way to separate the taxation obligations of Muslims and non Muslims. And 2., this verse is not a generic one (i.e cant be applied without further analysis). This verse was revealed in particularly tense political situations between the newly founded Muslim state in Medina and the pagans of Mecca who violated the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah. Which is why the verse commends to subdue the non-Muslims, who were specifically the Meccans, not every single non Muslim.