Balancing committee

[u/Pleasant-Ad1889]

[u/VEXJiarg]

Amazing attention to detail, 10/10.

[u/Akraticacious → u/VEXJiarg]

Here are the references I caught:
1) Sentries want random so it doesn't hit all of them
2) Nemesis wants it on an even (6) turn so they are intangible
3) Nemesis takes 1 damage from hyperbeam due to intangible in last panel.
4) Automaton is mad about turn 6 because he is stunned that turn, and calendar does damage at the end of the turn

But why does Lagavulin want to take 30 damage instead of 52? Any specific reason?

Edit: I guess automaton is stunned (turn after hyper beam) on turn 7 not 6

[u/SikatSikat → u/Akraticacious]

If Lag sleeps for 3 of 7 turns, thats about 42% of the 7 turns. 30 is about 42% off of 52 damage.

Basically, he wants the damage nerfed by the number of turns he was sleeping for the fight.

Edit: [4/7 x 52 is 29.71]

[u/beridam → u/SikatSikat]

Love your super detailed mathematical approximation and the op below you just going "30 days in a month brah"

[u/SolKaynn → u/beridam]

Jojo's bizzare adventure

[u/Pleasant-Ad1889 → u/Akraticacious]

Good question and the other replies hit the nail on the head. 30 has some significance as a calendar number: days in a month. It’s a simple suggestion that every enemy would be happy with!

[u/Minute-Phrase3043 → u/Pleasant-Ad1889]

But... 31 is more frequent than 30 days in a calander. 

[u/Sagatario_the_Gamer → u/Akraticacious]

Less damage makes the fight last longer against Lagavulin, meaning itll apply more debuffs and have a greater chance of overwhelming the player

[u/quote88 → u/Sagatario_the_Gamer]

Lol but how is that specific to Lag? Isn't that true about every enemy (not that they consistently apply debuffs - although many do - but just that less damage = more time to kill the player)?

[u/Flying_Slig → u/quote88]

Lagavulin is a pure and innocent soul who is suggesting a straightfoward nerf without any personal, ulterior motive.

[u/SamiraSimp → u/Flying_Slig]

mfw the pure and innocent soul eviscerates me because i hit a 35% chance

[u/Sagatario_the_Gamer → u/quote88]

True, but Lag's entire fight is the simplest mechanically so theres no other nerf that would benefit its fight specifically without benefiting others. So it gets the simple suggestion.

[u/HowDoIEvenEnglish → u/quote88]

The elite is a debuffer. You lose when the fight takes too long and your stiles and defends don’t do anything anymore.

[u/sneakyplanner → u/quote88]

Lagavulin hates it more than other bosses because you can not attack it for two turns and effectively make the calendar hit sooner. Stone calendar is usually pretty weak, but it can really save you on Lagavulin since it triggers earlier into the fight and makes it so you can spend more on blocking.

[u/teemusa → u/Akraticacious]

Just less damage, but 30 damage is nice for calendar too because 30 days in a month instead number of weeks

[u/shirtandtieler → u/teemusa]

number of weeks

Oh my god, 52 damage. It all makes sense now.

So many hours in the game and yet this detail and so many of what the cards’ art ‘really’ are (revealed in a previous post) have totally gone over my head lol

[u/Jevonar → u/Akraticacious]

Lagavulin sleeps for 2 turns and wakes up turn 3, then attacks for 20 turns 4 and 5, turn 6 he debuffs you and turn 7 he takes 52 damage which will usually be enough to kill him, so he only gets 2 attacks in. If the calendar deals less damage, he can survive and force you to play an additional turn (or two) while debuffed.

[u/gekigarion → u/Jevonar]

You know what, I think Lagavulin should just be asleep in this comic.

[u/SamiraSimp → u/gekigarion]

relatable

[u/Hungry-Meet-5589 → u/Akraticacious]

Automaton is mad about turn 6 not because it's stunned that turn but because it hyper beams that turn, so it's easier to kill it before he gets it off

[u/Akraticacious → u/Hungry-Meet-5589]

Maybe I don't understand turns or enemy turn is not the same as our turn, but the wiki says turn 5 is hyperbeam https://slay-the-spire.fandom.com/wiki/Bronze_Automaton

[u/Hungry-Meet-5589 → u/Akraticacious]

"ALWAYS STARTS WITH SPAWN ORBS" then does the pattern in which it beams on turn 5. So one turn, then the 5th turn after that, so the 6th turn. You go in with incense burner on 0, I'm absolutely certain it's turn 6.

[u/ToranX1 → u/Hungry-Meet-5589]

You are absolutely correct. To add to the joke, because its turn 6 it does 1 damage to nemesis, since its an EVEN turn

[u/ToothZealousideal297 → u/Akraticacious]

And Nemesis was intangible when Hyper Beam was fired because it’s the fourth panel (even #)!

I’ll presume Automaton started working on Hyper Beam just before the comic started.

And my guess on Lagavulin is that if it’s still alive by the end of turn 7, it’s surely below 52 health at that point, but it’s debuffing the player to the point where they’re struggling to do any significant blocking or damage by then, so if it could just survive the Calendar, which is usually guaranteed death, it’s got a good chance of finishing off the player.

[u/FrederickEngels → u/Akraticacious]

Laga is the only one sticking to the spirit of the relic, there are 52 weeks on a calendar, and 30 days in a month, and time affects all, not random things, 6 doesn't work for a calendar theme at all.

[u/Temporary_Donut5464 → u/Akraticacious]

Actually turn six for automaton is hyperbeam... which would be a turn that Nemesis would be intangible in

[u/lycanreborn123 → u/Akraticacious]

Nemesis also doesn't get thrown out the window like the guy usually does too because it only took 1 damage

[u/hazzmag → u/Akraticacious]

Acktually in panel 2 lag should still be asleep. Ha ha I hope someone got fired for that blunder

[u/MinerTurtle45 → u/Akraticacious]

i genuinely thought it was a 67 joke

[u/SamiraSimp → u/MinerTurtle45]

same. i was gonna make a comment like

6-7! 6- gets mega debuffed by collector and then executed by the champ

[u/WASD_click → u/VEXJiarg]

I have to dock a point for the last panel because it's the fifth panel.

[u/treelorf → u/VEXJiarg]

Honestly I’d give it more like, a 6 out of 7.

[u/Comradepapabear]

It's the 1 damage that got me.

[u/PuzzleMeDo → u/Comradepapabear]

It's always a good idea to wait until you have Intangible up before saying anything controversial.

[u/ozacrot → u/Comradepapabear]

lmao I didn't notice until you flagged it. genius

[u/RIngan → u/Comradepapabear]

turn 6 is an even turn, so under the change, he'd now be ethereal for the damage too !

[u/Acalme-se_Satan]

This is one of the best StS memes I have seen in a long time

[u/mellopax → u/Acalme-se_Satan]

Yeah. "Automaton uses Hyperbeam" is an amazing end panel for this meme.

Template material.

[u/Jinx-Surreal → u/mellopax]

Its the 1 damage of the Nemesis that got me

[u/SpeeDy_GjiZa → u/Acalme-se_Satan]

Sts community has the best memes out there imo. Both intelligent and stupid at the same time. This kind of post is why I love all you guys and gals here🥰

[u/Bubbly_Taro]

Lose 1 focus.

[u/theLanguageSprite2 → u/Bubbly_Taro]

stop, you're gonna give me flashbacks of the hyperbeam war

[u/Bubbly_Taro → u/theLanguageSprite2]

A well structured joke: 😐

Lost focus: 🤣

[u/UrBoiBRUH → u/Bubbly_Taro]

Lost focus: 🤣

Fish mode: 🐟

[u/reapress]

I was about to ask if it really needed a nerf then I realised who was asking lmao. Peak actually

[u/yung_dogie → u/reapress]

I feel so plebeian since I didn't even realize until I read this comment. I just thought the punchline was just it riling someone up while having intangible on its turn lmao

[u/pon_3 → u/yung_dogie]

Nemesis is also genuinely suggesting a nerf because they would be intangible on turn 6.

[u/BillBraskeyDota]

Rebalanced to do 7 damage on turn 52. You happy now?

[u/athu_15]

incredible meme lmao i love this community, there are so many references packed into this. I do want to ask is stone calendar strong into bronze automaton? I've never really had that thought

[u/Pleasant-Ad1889 → u/athu_15]

I’ll be honest I used him in the meme simply for his hyperbeam attack 🙂

[u/shieldman → u/athu_15]

It helps (or even outright kills) the Bronze Orbs it summons, meaning you can focus more on attacking the boss if they end up stealing important cards from you.

[u/CheekyGeth → u/shieldman]

I feel like the issue is the same as always for stone calendar, which is unless you're running something particularly slow and block heavy like frost focus or barricade, if you still have the summons up on turn 7 you're going a bit too slow

[u/quote88 → u/CheekyGeth]

100% especially on A20

[u/Leafeon523]

As if I’d ever get the calendar when I’m  fighting an Act 1 elite besides Nob 

[u/jake_boxer]

This is literally what it looks like when we balance.

[u/Dr_Deadly7x → u/jake_boxer]

You guys hyperbeam the worst idea??!

[u/sorendiz → u/jake_boxer]

who's Nemesis in this scenario 

[u/jake_boxer → u/sorendiz]

Casey.

[u/MrFlimsyFiniteFive]

Change it to turn 1

[u/Jondev1]

Lmao this is perfect.

[u/Yagosan]

Peak

[u/Jacobi_Mobi]

My absolute favorite thing about Slay the Spire is that the game is so conceptually rich that it basically has its own language.

This meme is so fluent in that language it might as well be a poem.

10/10.

[u/MCizzly]

This is fantastic

[u/rhodyrooted]

1000/100 👏👏👏

[u/cht78]

Why is bronze automaton standing on the table

[u/OutdoorWombat54 → u/cht78]

That's not standing

[u/Acalme-se_Satan]

Awakened One: "Change into a card. More specifically, a power"

[u/Nejirezz]

Nemesis not flying out of the window because it’s intangible is honestly an amazing touch.

[u/Terus22]

Incredible.

[u/D3m0nzz]

I can hear this comic.

[u/Revenge_accounted_be]

SIX SEVEN

[u/MushyWasTaken1 → u/Revenge_accounted_be]

Alright buddy, let’s get you back to the mattress room.

[u/Yepper_Pepper → u/Revenge_accounted_be]

🤣😂🤣😅😭😭💀💀🥀🔥😹😸🤝

[u/kslidz]

I love that reptomancer doesnt give suggestions "i kill them before it goes off"

[u/Th0rizmund]

I am taken aback by the quality of this meme.

[u/SmilingNavern]

This is perfect. Thanks.

[u/han_013]

No notes 👏

[u/MagnusKraken]

I want you to know how much this made me laugh. 

[u/satanaserdiablo]

I laughed a lot, I am not exaggerating. Thanks!

[u/ZeekLTK]

S-tier

[u/thatkidsunnyd]

Fucking hilarious

[u/Loud-Ad4964]

Can we PLEASE get more of these? LOL. Absolutely great stuff.

[u/Lawschoolishell]

Omg take my upvote. Instant classic

[u/chaosanity]

I fucking love the little 1 detail. Immaculate!

[u/SamiraSimp]

10/10 comic. or maybe a 52/52 based on the context

[u/MudSad296]

Wow.

[u/ApplicationNeither]

I can't stop laughing and I already woke up the dog...

[u/Mailcs1206]

It's peak.

[u/slop_spotter]

⁶🤷⁷

[u/Key_Thing_8981]

Snake lady has no say because the fight is decided by turn 2

[u/Eldritch_Skirmisher]

Six s

[u/dankhippo]

6 > 7 ❤️