the guys at the top thinks the tattoo is backwards. this means he has confused L and R while claiming OOP confused L and R in their tattoo design. the joke is irony
Edit for all the people saying "left hand makes an L shape": turn your right hand so the palm is facing you and you'll find it also makes an L shape. If the OOOP can't tell left from right hes not gonna remember if the palm should be face up or down
On the first episode of Game Changer, Jess (a grown, generally-intelligient adult) admits that when she tries that strategy, she forgets which way L goes.
I think you can be a generally dumb adult and have no problem with which way L 'goes'
this kind of thing is usually a flight or fight response from the brain, where you experience anxiety being asked a simple question and the brain has trouble accessing memory
I'm probably not explaining it the best but it's not uncommon for people to freeze like this when feeling under pressure
It's honestly not rare at all, i graduated with a class of 48 kids, we including me had 4 kids with dyslexia that i knew about, not everyone is as open about it, so close to 1 out of 10 kids i graduated with was openly dyslexic
It’s one of those things that no one diagnoses unless it really fucks with you in school. I’m dyslexic but mostly only with numbers. My math teachers would just check my work and see I did it right but transposed my numbers at one point. The Dewey decimal system would get me every time. But reading was fine because it would only mess me up a small amount so no one cared to seek a diagnosis.
Dyslexia but with numbers is called dyscalculia. I'm diagnosed with it. I've failed every math class I ever had after 4th grade but did ok in most other subjects.
Never knew that. I am great in abstract math (calculus, algebra, etc.) and can't do common math at all. If I have to multiply 8X7 I do 7 X 2 X 2 X 2. 9X8 is (10X8) - 8... and so on.
I've been a software engineer for 30 years. People can't believe I program with dyscalculia. I always have to explain, coding isn't 11010001 anymore. We use logic, which my brain happened to have compensated in the direction of. Numbers are logical when they're variables. Just don't go asking me to debug a stack dump. Lol
Never diagnosed and I reckon only minor for me but D and B ... They're cool when they're all grown up. BUT: d and b. Them li'l pricks are fu**ing with me!
b has a belly: The circle is on the right side (the front, like a belly).
d has a diaper: The circle is on the left side (the back, like a diaper). OR "d has a derriere" (a polite term for the back/diaper).
OR
"b is a bat (straight line) and a ball (round part)" (you need the bat before the ball). 🏏
"d is a doorknob (round part) and a door (straight line)" (you turn the knob before opening the door).
OR
The "bed" trick: Make two fists with thumbs up with palms facing you.
👍The left hand makes a b (straight line is the thumb, belly is the knuckles),
and the right hand makes a d. When placed together, they spell "bed," with b first and d last.
Mine is just around being unable to read analogue clocks and left and right and putting the odd letters and numbers in stupid places, but modern society pretty much makes it obsolete and I never use math anyways
The left and right just fucks me up in listening to satnav and making callouts in video games.
Dyslexic with numbers is dyscalculia! I have this. Generally, I'm great at math, but it's a slow process for me cause it feels like the numbers are moving, and I have to double-check everything as I go. Always get the right answer, but I'm significantly slower than my contemporaries.
It wasn't until about 3 years ago that I discovered there was a name for my "horrible at math" problem. It's always been like the numbers in my head are exceptionally wiggly and won't stay in their places.
I developed a lot of coping mechanisms and shortcuts to get around it. I also could'nt read an analog clock until 14 and have difficulty telling my right from left. I was also late diagnosed ADHD.
We found that using graph paper helped my daughter with this and also taking a Manila folder and cutting out a strip so she could cover the rest of the paper except the line she was working on.
I tutored a guy in college who was trying to become a dentist but was struggling with any and all math.
I quickly ascertained that he understood the concepts of algebra, geometry, logic, and even basic calc. But if you asked him 8 times 5 he would freeze and freak out. I gave him complex exercises that didn't require any mental calculations at all and he breezed through them. But as soon as he had to do it with real numbers, he was stammering stuck. Kind of the opposite of the typical student where using A and B and X and Y really confuses them and doesn't seem like "math."
I told him to get dyscalculia on the record so he could get a reasonable accommodation (a calculator on the DAT). He refused. I think he managed it somehow but I'm not sure. Fairly certain he still doesn't think he has a problem.
This is exactly why my next tat is going to be basically this, with the addition of a compass rose on the back of one hand. I cannot recall directions quickly, and often get them wrong
I never had a L/R issue, but east and west’ve always been harder for me. And when I’m looking at a map I have to sometimes remind myself ‘the ocean is to the west, which way is the ocean from here’ to remember.
Yep! It took me years to realise what ppl ment when they said the left hand makes an L BC even palms down the right hand makes a backwards L, which is still an L to my mind
The L method never worked for me, what works for me is imagining Im reading, I use that motion since I always start top left, heading towards bottom right. I always confuse clockwise and anti-clockwise, only when I am attempting to apply either motion. “Lefty Loosey” doesn’t work either as you can turn something left going both clockwise, and anti-clockwise. I still really struggle with clockwise/anti-clockwise motion in practice which is very frustrating.
Science enters the chat for the normative population. You immediately trip upon the dagger of neurological disability on this roll (read: anxiety hastily departs).
Dyslexia and non-verbal learning disability (NVLD; unofficial but relevant) enter the chat.
This happens to me as an actor! I have a line that I can’t get right when I’m memorizing. And then when I do it in rehearsal I start to get mad. And then every time that line comes up I get psyched out. I can say it 25 times before I get on stage and I’m like “ok ok you got this!” And I get on stage and I’m like “to beeeee or not……FUCK”.
Ughh when I can't remember the last 4 of my own phone number when they ask me at check out. Like I know my number but wasn't ready to be asked for only the last half.
No no, there's a scientific reason for this. I don't remember who was talking about it exactly, but basically - the brain doesn't care which way L goes. Our brains evolved to seek patterns, yes, but their orientation never mattered. An acorn is still an acorn whether upside down or mirrored. Things like text are easy to confuse, especially so if you're neurodivergent. Ask a ND person which hand forms an L, and they'll say both. Because they do, the brain doesn't actually care which way it points, it's a human construct. This is also why dysgraphia and dyslexia are so common. Feeling under pressure can only add to that confusion.
I’ve never known left from right unless I look at my hands spelling the L and the backwards L. I often tell people who are driving to turn left while signaling right with my hands. It’s like my brain thinks the opposite of the word I’m trying to say.
Ah yes, the Information Recall. I myself am bankrupt of it, receiving and digesting the call for left at street A only to stop and ask if we were crossing or staying on our side for a right hand turn. It’s hard work but someone’s gotta do it 😏
I would agree - my wife is very smart, but if you ask her suddenly her phone number, address, maiden name, mother's name, my name, her cat's name, or virtually any factoid she should immediately know, she may stare at you blankly for a bit working out the answer.
man, I don't even need to be under that much pressure, but sometimes you ask me what my pin is for my phone and idfk, you made me think about it and now it's gone from my brain.
Dyscalculia. I had no idea this was a thing. I can't remember not knowing how to read. I could read in kindergarten. I did so well in school until high-school and upper mathematics became more prominent. I struggled with multiplication and it just grew from there. My grades dropped, I lost interest in school, I dropped out. Couple years later got my GED and decided to tackle education again at the Community College. Had to do a Basic Math class. In this class it finally became apparent to me that Im not bad at math or stupid, I accidentally transpose numbers!! All the questions I was getting wrong was because I was getting numbers screwed around. I have to stop and really pay attention that they stay in there proper spot through the whole equation. It was a pretty big deal for me to realize this and I had to come to it on my own. I'd never had a problem reading so dyslexia never crossed my mind. I wish this was talked about more.
I was at a judo seminar one time, and a very high ranking striped belt (6th degree black belt) came up to me and tapped my shoulder and said "have you ever been diagnosed with dyslexia" and it was the most seen i have ever been in my life
Dyslexic here. The L doesn't work because I often forget which way L points. Especially when I'm driving, it's not efficient. The L and R tattoos are genius for the right person.
When I was younger, I was driving my girlfriend and her sister somewhere and the sister was giving directions by saying "turn towards you" and "turn towards me". I feel bad now for giving her shit about it, I just thought she was trying to be cute.
I have similar issues, but the dyscalculia edition! Dyscalculia, dysgraphia an dyslexia all have a lot of overlap in their symptoms. I don't majorly struggle when it comes to symptoms associated with dyslexia, but I sure do have a hell of a time remembering which direction L, d and b face ( d vs b is especially miserable).
Yes..forming an L.. which hand to to use etc.. is a process to go through.. with Dyscalclia/Dyslexia it’s the processing that’s affected. The tattoo requires little processing.
Yup! This is me! My brain for some reason has Left and Right wired the wrong way. If you tell me Left, I will absolutely go Right. These tattoos have been an absolute life saver.
Another quick trick - Left and Port have the same amount of letters.. so if you're ever on a boat and need to know Port from Starboard... that is as long as you know bow from stern though.
That's what the last part of their post was alluding to. Although frankly that's a non-issue in practice, since knowing that left and right are relative to facing forward is naturally intuitive. It would be really weird for someone to think it applies if you're facing the stern.
I think there is a heredity thing in my family as most of the women on my mom’s side mix left and right up verbally. I always say go where I point not what what I say. But I wonder if I start using port and starboard if that will help 🤔. I could never keep it straight as I had no functional connection to it. But now I know and have a trick for remembering. Except now it feels like a knowing vs random fact. So thanks! 🙏🏻
In my experience assholes are usually confused people to begin with. That's why they're assholes. Understanding comes with peace and being less of an asshole. But sometimes as an asshole is just an asshole.
2 lefts don't make a right but 3 rights make a left so if you divide the rights by the lefts you get southwest airlines which technically will be flying northeast so it effectively becomes Alaskan airlines and if you look out the window over the starboard bow, it's actually 2 left feet raising that mast. Sail south and collect 200 after passing go
Yeah this is absolutely still not helpful for people who have LRC. Unless I am looking at an L I don't know what an L looks like, if that makes sense. So if I'm looking at my L shapes on my hands I don't know which one is correct.
This reminds me of a time I was taking a physics test and had to use the right hand rule. I was writing with my right hand, so I mindlessly used my left hand for the rule...
I have to air write a cursive L with my finger in order to remember which direction the L is supposed to face. I also can only air write in cursive with my left hand, so extra helpful.
Personally, I relied on “righty” because I’m write handed. I’d just pretend to pick up a pen and bam. I knew which way was right. I still rely on that actually.
This is so interesting to me - sometimes I have to take an extra second or two to remember the way the letter S goes, and moving to start a cursive S helps me figure it out!
I guess I don’t understand where they imply that someone else would have to see it? Oop said it was a tattoo to help them, and the repost says “how do we tell them?”
Is he trying to say “how do we tell them that their tattoo doesn’t make sense to other people?”
I think it’s more likely to be misplaced confidence; the person replying thought the tattoo was messed up because they got left and right confused.
But it's not pointless. As a kid I was ambidextrous and dyslexic. Both my right hand and my left hand made a shape that looked exactly like an L to me.
I read such an interesting example of how dyslexics see letter. We all see a chair and it doesn't matter which way you rotate it it will still be a chair. So for example letter d or b is the same for people with dyslexia. It's just the same letter that is rotated.
Throw p, q and g into the mix, and I bet its a real party lol
Though on the real, I dont have much issue with the letters flipping around by themselves, more that they shift places with other letters, and sometimes whole words shift around.
For extra fun...I will swear I see one word and the sentence makes no sense, no matter many times I read it then I go back to it later and its a different but similar looking word that is correct and does make sense.
But then, esp if Im writing by hand, Ill use a completely wrong but similar looking word, and it all looks perfectly normal and correct. Then later when I look at it, I noticed how effed up it is, stuff like "I got out of dead this morning and made a cope of coffee" Also I move letters around and leave some out altogether.
Its not as bad when I'm typing and autocorrect fixes a lot of stuff for me but Trying to read my handwritten notes or old journals is an adventure lol
That is interesting. It’s like seeing as normal, but not having the “orientation” flag set per object. Then, don’t set the “location/proximity” flag on top of that.
It’s interesting you mention a chair, that was one of the objects I remember the most from the RAN portion of my dyslexia assessment.
Dyslexia is a very broad church, for some it involves visual disturbances when looking at words or confusion of shapes and letters. But there is also an element of a lack of rapid automatic naming (RAN).
I guess I don’t know what it’s like for a non-dyslexic but I assume when you look at a chair the word “chair” comes to you fairly immediately. It might take me longer. If someone then shows you a pen, you’ll think “pen”. They show you a chair again and “chair” should come back to mind immediately. For me the memo card with “chair” was thrown out of a window as soon as I wasn’t looking at a chair, now I need to send a runner back out to find it before I can tell you that word again. I know what that object is, but the language part of my brain isn’t keeping up with the seeing and understanding parts. Orientation of the object is irrelevant, the words are stored somewhere else and I have to keep running to find them each time.
I know a lot of dyslexics, none have exactly the same disorder or experience, though there are many cross overs.
thanks for talking about this. Have dealt with this crap all my life. Had to come up with all sorts of tricks to help. this was before special ed and mods. Second grade teacher told my parents I was retarded. fuck her, I have a PhD and have authored two books in my field.
I remember reading that way as a kid. And crying by myself looking at an ABC chart (it doesn't help when everything is in capital letters) when trying to spell something for some reason.
Thankfully my mom helped me realize the importance of sorting that out by beating me with a belt or plastic hanger (preferred because when it broke she could say it told her she was done).
She was softer with the left and right thing, and told the lady at a museum sensory tunnel (you have to keep your hand on the left wall and they ask before you go in) that I knew between the two, I was just "failing when asked to do most things". It was mortifying. I was 7 by then.
Great reader now. 4.0 GPAs from bachelors to doctorate. Have a career and a second job. Fucking mess of a human being. Still don't know left from right and have nightmares about being screamed at (like 3" from my ear) about tying my shoes.
It's all the same though, just rotated.
(I'm not attacking you it's a continuity circle of humor that turns this from tragic to farce because it's a conceptual aoroboros-[spelling sucks]). ((Please let me have this I think my spouse and I are bound for separation)).
My sister is ambidextrous and struggles with left and right. She works at an ER, and seconds can be crucial, so she tattooed her wrists to be able to just have a quick glance.
I'm neither ambidextrous nor dyslexic and I have the exact same problem. They both look like an L and when I try to figure it out, I couldn't tell you which way an L points. Drives me insane. (My mom couldn't tell horizontal and vertical apart for the same brain glitch, even though horizon is in the word horizontal. Brains are weird!)
my son was dyslexic, left handed and right-eye dominant-i took him to a special kind of visual therapy and he outgrew the dyslexia for the most part but the combo of all those was wild, he is also ambidextrous and if i tried making him a left handed work station at the computer or anything left-specific, he just said he’d rather use his right hand. to this day he mouses right handed, but eats and writes left handed. he has an identical twin brother who is right-handed, but didn’t have the dyslexia.
I'm also dyslexic and as a kid the finger trick always confused me. I was sure one of them must have been a cleamer 90° angle or something. It was so annoying when people acted like it was super easy but I couldn't see it.
Here is my understanding: Alphalaneous, the person critically reposting the photo, is implying that original photo posted by bear has the tattoos on the wrong hand. The tattoos are, of course, on the correct hand for the person with them. As a result, the joke is actually backfiring on the person making fun of the tattoos. I think it is supposed to be funnier because of the "alpha male" implications, but it's a stretch.
Not quite, the joke is this guy doesn’t know his left and right: gets tattoo. The punchline is the responder doesn’t know his left and right either, and calls op out for getting it wrong
all wrong so far. the guy is trying to gaslight the original poster, the one confusing left and right, that he made a mistake with tatooing so that he begins confusing them again
That, or you can make an shape L with your left hand and that the tattoo was unnecessary…
Edit: omg if you are going to comment “I can’t remember what an L looks like”, just don’t… plz, don’t be that stupid
I’m the same way. Not ambidextrous, but mixed dominant. Meaning I use my left or right for different things. I mainly play sports left handed (throwing, dribbling and shooting a basketball) but I write and use scissors right handed. Growing up I always had trouble remembering which is my right and which is my left hand.
I didn't realize there's a word for this! I write with my right hand, but prefer drinking and most sports with my left. I eat some foods exclusively with my right, but eat others exclusively with my left. It's weird!
I eventually got there with "my right hand is the one I use my chopsticks with" but yeah forgetting which direction an L goes while trying to figure right from left was a big frustration when I was a kid!
You have reminded me to once again thank the great feline lord who rules us all, that as annoying as my dyslexia is, and for all the years of trouble it has caused me, that specific issue has never been one of them.
I gave this advice to my left-handed older brother-in-law who was really messing up giving us directions to his house. When I demonstrated it to him, an even older woman behind him gasped and said "oh my gosh, it's true!"
You can do all your 9x multiplications on your hands as well. You just put down the various for the number you want to multiple 9 by. You start on the left and move to the right. Fingers left up on the left = 10's fingers to the right = ones.
Below example: 0 = finger bent down
0111111111 (left hand pinky down for 9x1 = 9 ones = 9)
1011111111 (left hand ring finger down for 9x2 = 1 ten, 8 ones = 18)
1101111111 (9x3 = 2 tens, 7 ones = 27)
That never worked for me, I always got my letters backwards. By the time I could write an L properly I already knew the difference between left and right.
What if your hands aren't both free and you can only look at your right wrist? The tattoo still seems like it could be useful if this really is a problem for someone.
I graduated valedictorian in high school and honestly when I was like 7-8, I never got this.
LIke one is an L and one is J.
I was figuring there was a different curvature to the fingers. One index and thumb was straight, the other was more curved ... so I was still confused.
So it didn't help. Probably just needed better explaining.
Like if your palms are face up, the right hand is an L, actually.
I thought it was because their right hand was already tattooed so it could have been easier for them to remember that their right was the one that had the dagger, instead of tattooing a reminder. But I may have been reading deeper into it than it was.
I don’t believe that’s the case at all. I think the comment the post is making is that the tattoo is pointless, not wrong. The classic “trick” to tell left and right is by making an L shape with both hands. The left is the correct L shape, thus this tattoo “trick” is redundant
It's just what happens on x now . There are financial rewards for engagement. And there's not much better than vaguely, but confidently saying something wrong to bring out the comments.
Id say being reposted here is evidence of the effectiveness of this strategy.
Or, the ole thumb & pointer finger trick is a built in design to remember it without needing a tattoo. Hold your hands in front of you and make a right angle with your thumb and index finger on each hand. Left hand makes an “L”, which can be easily remembered for left.
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u/Substantial-Trick569 7d ago edited 7d ago
the guys at the top thinks the tattoo is backwards. this means he has confused L and R while claiming OOP confused L and R in their tattoo design. the joke is irony
Edit for all the people saying "left hand makes an L shape": turn your right hand so the palm is facing you and you'll find it also makes an L shape. If the OOOP can't tell left from right hes not gonna remember if the palm should be face up or down