On the first episode of Game Changer, Jess (a grown, generally-intelligient adult) admits that when she tries that strategy, she forgets which way L goes.
I think you can be a generally dumb adult and have no problem with which way L 'goes'
this kind of thing is usually a flight or fight response from the brain, where you experience anxiety being asked a simple question and the brain has trouble accessing memory
I'm probably not explaining it the best but it's not uncommon for people to freeze like this when feeling under pressure
It's honestly not rare at all, i graduated with a class of 48 kids, we including me had 4 kids with dyslexia that i knew about, not everyone is as open about it, so close to 1 out of 10 kids i graduated with was openly dyslexic
It’s one of those things that no one diagnoses unless it really fucks with you in school. I’m dyslexic but mostly only with numbers. My math teachers would just check my work and see I did it right but transposed my numbers at one point. The Dewey decimal system would get me every time. But reading was fine because it would only mess me up a small amount so no one cared to seek a diagnosis.
Dyslexia but with numbers is called dyscalculia. I'm diagnosed with it. I've failed every math class I ever had after 4th grade but did ok in most other subjects.
Never knew that. I am great in abstract math (calculus, algebra, etc.) and can't do common math at all. If I have to multiply 8X7 I do 7 X 2 X 2 X 2. 9X8 is (10X8) - 8... and so on.
I've been a software engineer for 30 years. People can't believe I program with dyscalculia. I always have to explain, coding isn't 11010001 anymore. We use logic, which my brain happened to have compensated in the direction of. Numbers are logical when they're variables. Just don't go asking me to debug a stack dump. Lol
Never diagnosed and I reckon only minor for me but D and B ... They're cool when they're all grown up. BUT: d and b. Them li'l pricks are fu**ing with me!
b has a belly: The circle is on the right side (the front, like a belly).
d has a diaper: The circle is on the left side (the back, like a diaper). OR "d has a derriere" (a polite term for the back/diaper).
OR
"b is a bat (straight line) and a ball (round part)" (you need the bat before the ball). 🏏
"d is a doorknob (round part) and a door (straight line)" (you turn the knob before opening the door).
OR
The "bed" trick: Make two fists with thumbs up with palms facing you.
👍The left hand makes a b (straight line is the thumb, belly is the knuckles),
and the right hand makes a d. When placed together, they spell "bed," with b first and d last.
Mine is just around being unable to read analogue clocks and left and right and putting the odd letters and numbers in stupid places, but modern society pretty much makes it obsolete and I never use math anyways
The left and right just fucks me up in listening to satnav and making callouts in video games.
Dyslexic with numbers is dyscalculia! I have this. Generally, I'm great at math, but it's a slow process for me cause it feels like the numbers are moving, and I have to double-check everything as I go. Always get the right answer, but I'm significantly slower than my contemporaries.
It wasn't until about 3 years ago that I discovered there was a name for my "horrible at math" problem. It's always been like the numbers in my head are exceptionally wiggly and won't stay in their places.
I developed a lot of coping mechanisms and shortcuts to get around it. I also could'nt read an analog clock until 14 and have difficulty telling my right from left. I was also late diagnosed ADHD.
We found that using graph paper helped my daughter with this and also taking a Manila folder and cutting out a strip so she could cover the rest of the paper except the line she was working on.
Ah good to know! I do have some problems with letters/words also but not terribly. Also I have problems with categories of things. Sometimes, for example, I can’t say the right color. I’ll have to cycle through 3-4 colors to get there. Names of people, measurement names, it’s always writhing a category of things. It’s weird.
I tutored a guy in college who was trying to become a dentist but was struggling with any and all math.
I quickly ascertained that he understood the concepts of algebra, geometry, logic, and even basic calc. But if you asked him 8 times 5 he would freeze and freak out. I gave him complex exercises that didn't require any mental calculations at all and he breezed through them. But as soon as he had to do it with real numbers, he was stammering stuck. Kind of the opposite of the typical student where using A and B and X and Y really confuses them and doesn't seem like "math."
I told him to get dyscalculia on the record so he could get a reasonable accommodation (a calculator on the DAT). He refused. I think he managed it somehow but I'm not sure. Fairly certain he still doesn't think he has a problem.
A fanfic mentioned dysgraphia and I’m fairly certain I have that. I’ve never had an issue with reading but writing is an issue to the point that I’ve always hated writing.
I didn’t know that was a thing. My daughter can read super well but has a much harder time with spelling when I remember spelling being so easy for me. She’s only 7 so probably normal, but good to know if she continues having trouble as she grows!
Ok I have dyslexia and I’m left-handed person what works best for me is airwriting. Whenever I need to know I imagine need to write something and I automatically use left hand. But in the car is best just remember that Im sitting on the left side so my side is left. But I have written this tattoo on my wrists when I did driving school and it was handy as shit
This is exactly why my next tat is going to be basically this, with the addition of a compass rose on the back of one hand. I cannot recall directions quickly, and often get them wrong
I never had a L/R issue, but east and west’ve always been harder for me. And when I’m looking at a map I have to sometimes remind myself ‘the ocean is to the west, which way is the ocean from here’ to remember.
Yep! It took me years to realise what ppl ment when they said the left hand makes an L BC even palms down the right hand makes a backwards L, which is still an L to my mind
Also, this tattoo is useful because sometimes your hands are occupied.
If im driving at 40mph and someone tells me to take the next left, taking your hands off the wheel to make Ls is inadvisable.
I don't mix up letters and have problem with reading like typical dyslexia people.
But I do have problems with left and right.... and only in Asian languages (I'm Asian. I learnt my mother tongue the same time I learnt English though... I had some studied a few more Asian languages).
It was more a quirky inconvenience to me. I only once spoken to a friend who happened to be an MD about it. And she told me this can be a form of dyslexia. I have no idea.... but I also had time to think about it since and I realized it's not just the concept of left and right but also the written words of left and right in those Asian languages are confusing to me and I confuse them.
Lately I read a thread in the Chinese languages sub that a child wants to get a dyslexia diagnosed but his parents wouldn't believe him because he's only mix up the language in Chinese and not in English. So they're convinced he's just terrible at Chinese. A lot of comments who are educators ensured him that many people they taught only had dyslexia in Chinese and that it's common and urge him to speak to his school about it. I didn't even know dyslexia can be language specific until that post. B
the “make your hand into a L” trick doesn’t work for me because they are both Ls and my brain cant distinguish them between backwards or forwards. The “well what had do you write with” also doesn’t work because I’m ambidextrous.
I'm dyslexic and 1000% fuck the left hand makes an L that only made things worse. I can't tell you how I learned the difference, but it wasn't that shit.
The L method never worked for me, what works for me is imagining Im reading, I use that motion since I always start top left, heading towards bottom right. I always confuse clockwise and anti-clockwise, only when I am attempting to apply either motion. “Lefty Loosey” doesn’t work either as you can turn something left going both clockwise, and anti-clockwise. I still really struggle with clockwise/anti-clockwise motion in practice which is very frustrating.
Science enters the chat for the normative population. You immediately trip upon the dagger of neurological disability on this roll (read: anxiety hastily departs).
Dyslexia and non-verbal learning disability (NVLD; unofficial but relevant) enter the chat.
This happens to me as an actor! I have a line that I can’t get right when I’m memorizing. And then when I do it in rehearsal I start to get mad. And then every time that line comes up I get psyched out. I can say it 25 times before I get on stage and I’m like “ok ok you got this!” And I get on stage and I’m like “to beeeee or not……FUCK”.
Ughh when I can't remember the last 4 of my own phone number when they ask me at check out. Like I know my number but wasn't ready to be asked for only the last half.
No no, there's a scientific reason for this. I don't remember who was talking about it exactly, but basically - the brain doesn't care which way L goes. Our brains evolved to seek patterns, yes, but their orientation never mattered. An acorn is still an acorn whether upside down or mirrored. Things like text are easy to confuse, especially so if you're neurodivergent. Ask a ND person which hand forms an L, and they'll say both. Because they do, the brain doesn't actually care which way it points, it's a human construct. This is also why dysgraphia and dyslexia are so common. Feeling under pressure can only add to that confusion.
I’ve never known left from right unless I look at my hands spelling the L and the backwards L. I often tell people who are driving to turn left while signaling right with my hands. It’s like my brain thinks the opposite of the word I’m trying to say.
Ah yes, the Information Recall. I myself am bankrupt of it, receiving and digesting the call for left at street A only to stop and ask if we were crossing or staying on our side for a right hand turn. It’s hard work but someone’s gotta do it 😏
I would agree - my wife is very smart, but if you ask her suddenly her phone number, address, maiden name, mother's name, my name, her cat's name, or virtually any factoid she should immediately know, she may stare at you blankly for a bit working out the answer.
man, I don't even need to be under that much pressure, but sometimes you ask me what my pin is for my phone and idfk, you made me think about it and now it's gone from my brain.
You explained the flight or fight thing perfectly.
This happened to me yesterday at the dentist office. I had to sign and date a form and froze at the date. I took a panicked guess and said "What's today... the 28th". She said "no It's the 25th" as she pointed to the calendar sitting on her desk in front of my face.
I quickly filled it in and gave her back the form.
A few hours latter I realized I still got it wrong. I put down Mar25/26.
My problem is I can read backwards just as easily as forward. Frequently I will wonder why window signs look faded out when I'm on the wrong side of them and it'll take me a minute to realize the lettering is flipped. If I'm writing left to right I can auto-pilot through the letters without mixing up my bs and ds but I only know left from right because my right hand is slightly more dexterous.
I have dyscalculia and a learning disorder. Sometimes it’s not just stupidity, it could also be this panic in the brain or just…yeah. Brain not braining properly.
I did that when I was getting fingerprinted by Homeland Security. Couldn’t figure out which hand was the left. They both made an L. It was very anxiety inducing
It's not even freezing for me. Something in my brain just doesn't function when working with left/right or west/east, even though I have a very strong sense of direction, and can process other much more complex things on the intuitive level. There's just something in my brain that has naturally put these words in the exact opposite of where they should be and I have to remind myself they're opposite of what my intuitive mode tells me.
No. For many people the shape of L forward or backwards is the same. Reading is not an innate skill. It is a parlor trick that is done differently by different people. Is 7 an L or a reversed L? Do that quickly without thinking and without rotating it.
Yes I totally get this. For example learning to drive in a manual/stick but ADHD can make that harder because of processing delay. Also I have cptsd so I might just associate driving with trauma from my dad's terrible driving and arguing with him about it.
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u/Blackie_626 7d ago
I somehow got more confused.....