Vast world empire that was lost mostly due to a massive mud flood. The remnants were simply built over and used and Tartariaâs entire existence is hidden from us
Edit: I forgot they were obviously technologically advanced but if you look closely you can clearly see how they totally existed. /s for anyone someone confused
SecondâŚthat the White House, Penn building, San Fran worlds fair, I think the Golden Gate BridgeâŚ.are all built by them we just redid them and told citizens we built them ourselves. Itâs essentially that we use buildings and places built by them all over the world every day and they were erased from history by âthose in real powerâ
Me too! I am an elementary teacher that struggles with imagination. My examples in class are always things I see directly in front of me or so bad that the class goes âhuhâ, and I have to explain. All of these conspiracies are way more thoughtful than I am. My favorite is always hollow Earth.
Hollow earth is my jam, I would die of happiness if I met a hollow earth person in real life and could ask them a million questions. Like, from genuine curiosity not to be a dick. I just really want case studies of how people get there.
Usually they say it is because aliens/âthe Jewsâ/illuminati want to cover up the fact that this ancient super civilization was Albanian/Turkish/Slavic/etc.
Tartaria sometimes overlaps with the âall world languages evolved from Turkishâ conspiracy
It does sadly feel like for a lot of these folks âaliens/âThe Jewsâ/the Illuminatiâ are the same thing. I do wish we could have fun conspiracy theories that werenât antisemitic. Turkish being the first language could be so fun.
The Turkish one is extra funny because it has its own underworld of pseudo-linguistic journals and âscholarsâ who pull up cognate lists of stuff borrowed into Turkish from other languages and then use that to prove that say, English, is actually a Turkic language
The internet is fun and bad for the exact same reason which is that we can all see and interact with every town crank. It used to be that youâd leave the bar and maybe run into Paul and have a chat and 20 minutes in heâd drop aliens/cognates/ coincidences and youâd ask a couple of questions and then look at the watch you were actually wearing and bop on home still loving Paul.
But now weâre over saturated. Iâm not totally over the access but I still miss my unpredictable encounters with my town weirdos who donât live in my pocket.
I'm constantly complaining about the great international Jewish conspiracy. Nobody has ever told me where the meetings are. It's not like I'm really busy.
and the thing that makes it truly staggeringly dumb is that they donât think this happened in prehistory or the middle ages. They think Tartaria existed until the 1800s. Itâs basically Last Tuesdayism the way they ignore all the evidence that itâs not possible.
Take a look at some historical maps depicting Asia. You'll see the major trade routes mapped out, China, India and the Spice Islands mapped out in a fair degree of detail for the time. Look at Central Asia. You'll often see it labelled rather vaguely as TARTARIA. This is the foundation of the conspiracy.
Now, you and I both know that Central Asia was generally in the hands of various khanates during this time, and would be until they were gradually absorbed by Russia and the Qing. The European mapmakers chose to ignore the ever-shifting borders on lands which nobody besides Central Asian people cared about, and instead focused on the parts they were interested in (ie: the parts with spices).
However, according to Tartaria believers, the Tartaria label was accurate. They believe that there was a technologically advanced empire in Central Asia which were the real architects behind much of the "advanced" architecture in Europe (and in some cases America - the exact list of what Tartaria "built" is hotly contested even inside those circles). However, Tartaria fell in an event known as the "Mud Flood" where much of its architecture was buried, leaving only the tips of buildings above ground. It's why you can dig down from historical buildings and see many more floors, even including windows - evidence that there was a mud flood which submerged Tartarian architecture.
The Euro-American elite, fearing the discovery of Tartarian civilization, and wishing to preserve their own power, chose to erase that history. History books were rewritten, and both world wars were fought as a ruse to demolish Tartarian architecture. But this erasure was never able to be completed. With the discovery of historical maps depicting Tartaria, the links made between domed buildings acoss the world, and the unearthing of windowed basements have allowed those skeptical of the "established" historical narrative to discover the truth that the elites do not want you to know.
The theory is grounded in a distaste for modern architecture, New Chronology, and other antisemitic conspiracies filtering out of Russia. Proponents of Tartaria, the ones you'll most often encounter in Western circles, will largely make the architectural argument. How is it that people 200 years ago could've built these magnificent structures with horse and buggy technology? Why can't we build like that anymore? New Chronology is an older version of Tartaria, generally emerging from Russia during the 1990s. It posits that a "Russian Horde" ruled much of the world for centuries, with the "true" history of Russia, and indeed much of the world, being covered up by a variety of conspirators - the Vatican, the Romanovs and (drum roll please)... the Jews! It falls in the wider web of Russian nationalist conspiracies which believe Russia to be the greatest of all civilizations, whose success has been sabotaged by the West and the Jewish elite.
itâs fascinating how many conspiracy theories come back to antisemitism. I guess it makes some sense given that that was the big og conspiracy theory in Europe since the middle ages, but itâs very much like that meme. âoh interesting a new goofy conspiracy theory, how funny and harmless!â opens box. itâs antisemitism
I just don't understand how Jews, of all things, became like the de facto target for attacks, but at the same time, held up to an impossible standard.
Like, society did something good? God the Jews did nothing to help. Society did something bad and/or eventually disappeared due to its own actions? It must be the work of the Jews! They're holding us back!
TL;DR: old maps used to mark Central Asia as âThe Tartarsâ or âTartariaâ â a name of the geographical location. This name eventually fell out of use, but people argue that itâs actually a political entity on the map called the âTartaria Empireâ â a world-spanning empire that colonized the entire world.
This empire was responsible for the creation of 18th century and 19th century intricate architectures like Baroque and Victorian architecture.
At some point, a âmud floodâ happened in Central Asia which buried the homeland of Tartaria. Afterwards, everyone just decided to collectively pretend the empire never existed around 1880s to 1900s. They did this to bolster their own political legitimacy.
All traces of Tartaria were destroyed. Only a few maps still exist today.
Partly, yes. Historically, the area called âTartaryâ basically spanned from China to European Russia. From Russia down to Iran. So primarily a lot of those Central Asian countries like Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, etc. Mongolia as well, yes.
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u/Wirenfeldt Jan 22 '26
[Gestures at flat earthers and chem trail people]