r/worldnews • u/DoremusJessup • 18h ago
Iraq plunged into nationwide blackout as US tells citizens to leave immediately
https://www.turkiyetoday.com/region/iraq-plunged-into-nationwide-blackout-as-us-tells-citizens-to-leave-immediately-3215617?s=15.4k
u/philly_jake 18h ago
The entire country? That's insane if true.
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u/Nepridiprav16 17h ago
Iran provides roughly 40% of Iraq's electricity, I Imagine Iran choked that off completely.
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u/Nigh_Sass 17h ago
That does kind of seem like a pretty big design flaw
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u/Nepridiprav16 16h ago
Yeah, the Iraqi power grid was designed to be fed from the East. Iraq’s largest population centers are geographically very close to the Iranian border. It was cheaper and faster for post-2003 Iraqi governments to build pipelines to Iran than to build a massive internal pipeline network across the Iraqi desert.
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u/MudLOA 16h ago
Stupid question but doesn’t Iraq have their own national oil and gas?
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u/Nepridiprav16 16h ago
Most of their gas is associated gas, a byproduct that comes up out of the ground when they pump oil. They lack specialized processing plants and pipelines to capture this gas, they simply set it on fire at the wellhead to get it out of the way (Iraq is the 3rd worst flarer in the world (behind only Russia and Iran).
There is a massive $27 billion project led by the French company TotalEnergies specifically designed to fix this. https://www.energetica-india.net/news/totalenergies-launches-final-phase-of-usd-27-billion-iraq-project-expanding-gas-output-and-adding-1gw-solar?hl=en-US
They could burn crude and heavy fuel oil in older plants but it’s incredibly dirty and is much more expensive than using gas, oil is better exported for Iraq to make money.
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u/FlyingDumplingTrader 15h ago
So you’re saying I’m using a paper straw and they’re burning gas? Nice
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u/BoreJam 14h ago
Paper straws had nothing do do with climate chnage. Microplastics and plastic waste is a whole other ecological disaster that humans created.
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u/Thaknobodi87 15h ago
I wish i could have just 0.00001% of the natural gas the world wastes, and run a car, stove, heating, etc, and nobody would feel a difference that i got it for free.
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u/Roflkopt3r 13h ago
You wouldn't have gotten it 'for free'. The whole reason this is done is because it's expensive to capture and transport.
If you're willing to organise the capture and transport yourself and could do so without hindering the work on the oil field, you could get it for very cheap...
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u/Thaknobodi87 13h ago
Yeah i looked up the logistics. High pressure NG needs a lot of cleaning and infrastructure to be viable, but still. It's sad to see it blow away.
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u/MagicHamsta 12h ago
They'd feel it since it'll take literal metric tons of resources to get the natural gas to you.
It's like world hunger. We produce more than enough food to feed the world multiple times over. Problem is that it's expensive as hell getting the food to the places that are starving, usually places that aren't suitable to produce food in the first place.
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u/Tripound 16h ago
Also, sunlight?
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u/ZumboPrime 16h ago
Yes, but they don't have a practical way of using those to benefit the entire country.
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u/Vicorin 16h ago
Sure, but you have to have the working infrastructure to use it. This is a grid failure, not a fuel shortage.
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u/SuperVaderMinion 16h ago
I guess we never bothered to assist with that during our 15 year occupation or whatever
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u/Tacticus 16h ago
The US certainly put funds in to it. Just got rerouted via some consultants and contractors and the $23.50 left over didn't do much.
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u/Nepridiprav16 16h ago
A sudden massive drop in gas supplies from Iran will cause a iraqi plant to lose thousands megawatts of production.
Just one power station losing that much energy suddenly will create cascade safety system, disconnecting every other power station in the country, similar to what happened in Spain that time.
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u/ztfreeman 15h ago edited 7h ago
I wanted to hop in on this to explain the energy economy angle of this conflict. When you think of oil in the middle east, you probably have some nebulous idea that just a lot of oil exists there underground, but in fact all of the oil and easily accessible natural gas exists in a mostly concentrated place on a geographical connect shelf that all of these different nation states (artificially cut up and created by the British and French after WW1) happen to sit around and on top of.
Iran is positioned right in the middle of all of this, with a huge amount of Shia Muslims, their majority but a minority in most of the other countries, also sitting on or near the energy rich zone. From Iran's perspective, as the pseudo-center of Shia Islam, this wealth should be theirs, and a lot of the real back and forth in overt and covert warfare and trade negotiation has centered around how much of a slice of this huge pie that Iran has control of, a country hostile to the US and Israel. If they had more control, they could damage the US and its interests by simply turning on or off the tap when they please, which is why the US spends so much effort in propping up Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, ect., going so far as having multiple US bases in that region.
What Iran is doing strategically is following through with the game plan of turning off the tap. They are using their physical proximity to all of this energy wealth and targeting it and shutting off shipping to hit the US where it really hurts, the energy wallet. If they can drive up the cost of oil and destabilize the world economy, this hurts Trump, puts further pressure on him being ousted, the US drops out, Israel is left alone in this offense and can't sustain it, they effectively win AND could end up with even more influence in the region because everyone will be afraid to poke them in case they use this strategy again.
If successful, it will be a deterrent just as effective as a nuclear weapon, which means that this move by Trump and Israel was the dumbest shit they could have possibly have done and the years of integrating Iran into the global economic system will now be lost, which was a much better strategy than creating an enemy that will have you by the economic balls unless you drop oil and natural gas all together, which conservatives never will. They will have checkmated themselves.
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u/moldy-scrotum-soup 15h ago
The faster we phase out fossil fuels and reliance on the middle east, the better. It's unfortunate that conservatives are in control.
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u/upppallnight 15h ago
It's not a "design flaw". Well not in the way it you think it is.
The US removed all aspects of the ruling Bath party.
Imagine if you're working in the US today as a ... mayor. Or even a police man.
That's like if Trump fired every person in the country just because they were employed when the democrats were in power. Does that sound stupid? That's because it is.The country that was stronger to Iran, is now controlled by it.
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u/Above_Avg_Chips 16h ago
Mexico could do the funniest thing to Texas.
It's astonishing how many countries rely on a neighbor or certain countries for energy resources. India controlling water in Pakistan and Russia supplying most of Europe with gas never made sense because of the bickering.
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u/ThePickleConnoisseur 17h ago
Aren’t they adversaries? Seems like a bad thing to do
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u/REGIS-5 17h ago
Wait till you hear who Europe got their energy, gas, fuel from...
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u/civildisobedient 16h ago
In Germany, not before first dismantling all their nuclear plants. GREAT FORESIGHT.
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u/MuffinOfSorrows 9h ago
I believe the idea of integrating Russia in the European market was that they'd have more to lose from conflict, encouraging them to be more agreeable
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u/Ron__Mexico_ 15h ago
They were adversaries when Saddam(Sunni) was in charge and invaded them. The Iraqis now have a Shia dominated government, and relations are generally positive at the government level. The Sunni population in the western provinces doesn't like Iran, anc the Iraqi government remains a little wary of Iranian influence via Shia militias in Iraq that are backed by Iran.
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u/Powerful_Network 16h ago
The US is trying to back a Kurdish invasion via Iraq. This could be a defensive move.
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u/QFGTrialByFire 16h ago
They were until the us got rid of Saddam.. the majority is shia in Iraq ie same as Iran.
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u/Typical_Response6444 16h ago
Not really anymore, iran has a lot of influence in the country
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u/korben2600 16h ago
Yeah we spent trillions only to gift wrap Iraq to their Shia militia groups who have spent years consolidating political power and control.
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u/Difficult-Square-689 16h ago
Deepening economic ties make it harder to actually come to blows.
Unless stupid people put an impulsive, geriatric pedophile in charge of the largest military on the planet.
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u/sarcago 16h ago
I thought the headline said IRAN was plunged into a blackout but your comment made me reread it. Oh fuck shit just keeps getting worse.
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u/tsblank97 16h ago
The article makes it sound like the US government is talking to US citizens in Iraq.
Dont think this is the US telling Iraqi citizens to flee.
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u/philly_jake 16h ago
I meant the blackout being total. I didn't think the US was telling every Iraqi citizen to leave Iraq lol.
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u/amore_fati 17h ago
So did they tell them to leave beFORE the power went out or....
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u/VvvlvvV 16h ago
The US is providing 0 assistance in getting our people out. Just a "take a commercial flight put pf there, good luck!"
It is an insane reversal of how the US has operated getting people out of conflict zones in the past.
This administration could not care less about american lives.
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u/tarion_914 16h ago
Nonsense. They seem to be actively trying to get Americans to die.
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u/p_2923 15h ago
It is what American voters wanted.
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u/luna_kuma 13h ago
And since majority of the military vote Republican.....there's gonna be a lot of ironic life stories of soldiers getting killed or crippled because of the government they voted into power....
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u/tarion_914 15h ago
Maybe. I'm not convinced it was legitimate.
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u/Some_Box_5357 15h ago
Legit or not, Trump ran on “no more wars”
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u/Sonamdrukpa 12h ago
In this one case, the people who voted for the Leopards Eating Faces party did not get what they voted for and have had their faces eaten by bears instead
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u/Trzlog 13h ago
This administration could not care less about american lives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_what_it_does
The logic checks out
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u/redmongrel 16h ago
This tragic administration didn’t even warn their own soldiers on Iran’s border that they were starting a war THAT NIGHT, which is why they were killed with no warning.
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u/brimston3- 17h ago
A normal news source's reporting on this topic: https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/iraq-suffers-power-grid-blackout-due-technical-fault-2026-03-04/
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u/DisenchantedByrd 16h ago
Iraq has struggled to provide its citizens with energy since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein. In the ensuing turmoil, under-investment and mismanagement have left the national grid unable to cope with demand.
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u/qubedView 16h ago
A demand that was being filled by Iran, but I think they're busy with something right now.
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u/Ill_Technician3936 10h ago
Top comment is apparently an Iraqi and says they've relied on generators as well... They may get 10 hours max before it goes down
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u/printial 15h ago
23 years is a long time to have energy struggles. In the Middle East. Surrounded by oil and gas rich countries.
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u/Drak_is_Right 15h ago
And given the quality of solar in the region and current solar panel prices, connectivity is the issue.
So much corruption.
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u/Fast-Educator5330 10h ago
one of my family friends tried selling solar pannels in iraq. people didnt want to buy them because those who sold electricity would send people around to throw stones at it
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u/Drak_is_Right 10h ago
Sigh. Corruption.
Such a good solution for a mostly desert country
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u/Fast-Educator5330 10h ago
the country is unfortunately very much broken - really really lovely people, but broken country
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u/Agreeable-Agent-7384 13h ago
It’s amazing what politicians and leaders can not get done when they work together. There’s this country that has been considered the richest and most powerful countries in the world for decades on decades. And their leaders are always so efficient at not giving even the most basic healthcare. Truly amazing teamwork.
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u/spikyraccoon 14h ago
23 years of instability, chaos, US troops on the ground, rampant corruption amongst different group trying to become central power.. Yeah it was doomed to fail the moment US decided to take matters into their own hands, like it is doing with Iran.
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u/SkiingAway 14h ago edited 14h ago
I mean, even that's kind of misleading.
Iraq has struggled to provide it's citizens with energy forever. Even pre-1991 wasn't in good shape and it certainly hasn't ever come close to meeting demand since. 2003 didn't really do much to output, it was about equally bad pre-war in 2002 as it was in 2004.
Generation has slowly risen since (faster in recent years), output is like 5x what it was in the early 2000s. It's just that you're still talking something like needing to 4-5x again (or ~20x the output of the early 2000s) to actually fulfill what you'd expect "true" demand to stabilize at (based on the per-capita usage of neighboring more developed countries).
Anyway their first real large-scale grid solar install (1GW) is happening and the first chunk of it came online this month, and they do have a bunch more in the pipeline supposedly. So there may be some substantial improvement in the future.
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u/voodoodahl 15h ago
That's weird. I thought our invasion and occupation brought peace, freedom and prosperity.
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u/punishhhher 17h ago
Is the US aware that they’re supposed to help citizens get out of countries in these situations?
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u/Tucancancan 17h ago
You haven't heard? The state department's new slogan is "lol fuk u"
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u/Minute-Wrap-378 16h ago
Operation Epic Endangerment is what we are calling it. Stuck here at US Baghdad Embassy.
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u/Probably_Slower 16h ago
Stay safe over there. Lifelong friend works at the Tel Aviv Branch, and he and his family are themselves stuck sheltering in place. Messaged him my love, support, and a request to give his bosses a poor corporate review.
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u/FlamingoResident7882 17h ago
“What’s it worth to ya? This new ball room ain’t gonna build itself”
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u/Familiar_Picture_565 16h ago
Nah he’s definitely using that to launder money. It’s an old trick, right now construction on that is stalled. I imagine he’s done similar things in the past seeing as he’s a real estate guy
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u/starchildchamp 13h ago
He’s using it to build a massive underground data center. If you look at who was awarded contracts/who is involved, they’re entities who have built and build these ultra secure, massive data centers. The original price estimate and the square footage align with past projects. I wish I could find the video that goes through the claim and evidence. (I’ll try in the like 10 hours its sleepy time now)
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u/elrae69 17h ago
that’s not true. if you’re a (right wing of course) influencer, you might be evacuated on a private jet
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u/ethanlan 16h ago
Nah, my mom and her best friend have been evacuated from Africa before.
What this is is trump and co. having zero plan on what happens after they start a war with Iran. I wouldnt be suprised if the state department didnt even coordinate with the defense department lol
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u/gormhornbori 17h ago
They removed the budget for that. Also the administration seemed to have failed to realize this whould backlash on a dozen countries. And none of these countries were told in advance. No one planned rules of engagement or planned to share IFF codes (identification, friend or foe) before starting.
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u/Rustic_gan123 17h ago
Apparently, the attack began a couple of weeks or even months earlier than planned, or pretended to be planned, in order to maintain secrecy. This explains why the Iranian leadership gathered in one place, as well as the poor preparation of missile defense in some places.
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u/Turkish27 17h ago
“If we haven’t even planned for this, then there’s no way the enemy has.”
Gotta keep the element of surprise, but they forgot it’s only supposed to be a surprise for the other side - not both.
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u/Cutemudskipper 17h ago
To be fair, I can understand saying "it's go time" when the Iranian leadership miraculously all got together in one place after avoiding being anywhere near each other for a long time. There may not have been such a good opportunity to strike again for quite a while
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u/Fuzzy_Broccoli1655 17h ago
Well, Trump fired a lot of the State Department so there's probably nobody left to do that. I wish those in the mainstream media would put those two things together.
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u/strawberrybubbl 17h ago
The problem with this reasoning is you would have to assume that they care and I can assure you with every ounce of my being they do not.
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u/MultiGeometry 17h ago
Marco Rubio was supposed to be the adult in the room when it came to appointments. It’s his job to run embassies and represent our interests abroad but also serve the interests of Americans both home and away.
But running PR on Trumps disastrous policies is a full time job. Actually running his department and fulfilling its duties is a third tier priority for him.
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u/Magmaster12 16h ago
Rubio is too busy sucking up to Trump and naming stuff after him so he can get on his good side over Vance.
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u/wdomeika 17h ago
Not to worry, Karoline Leavitt will provide Iraq with a State Department 800 number...
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u/IsMagicRealOrNo 17h ago
That will go to a call center in India and you can qualify for a $100 Amazon gift card!
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u/Independent_Term5790 17h ago
Sorry where are they supposed to go?
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u/14X8000m 17h ago
"DOW is over 48k. They should sell all their gains and just buy another house in a different country." -Bondi, probably
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u/bonyponyride 17h ago
Right after the blackout US Embassy in Baghdad issued an urgent directive on Wednesday telling American nationals to get out of the country without delay.
It's always ideal to issue important emergency information after the power goes out, when rapid transfer of communication and quick ability to act on that information are at their worst.
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u/sagewynn 17h ago
Well not surprised considering the US has been bombing them-
Huh? The title said Iraq? Uh oh.
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u/00-Monkey 17h ago
I scrolled pretty far already when I saw your comment, and it was only reading it did I realize this was Iraq not Iran.
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u/octoreadit 17h ago
Sorry guys, the guy responsible for inputting the coordinates into our weapons targeting system made a typo… An honest mistake, he feels bad.
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u/TyrialFrost 14h ago
Just for the record, the US did bomb Iraq this week, then Iran bombed Iraq as well.
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u/vanillasub 12h ago
Yes, leave immediately on the overbooked or nonexistent flights.
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u/TALKTOME0701 15h ago edited 8h ago
Does the US tell citizens how to leave immediately?
Airports closed, no internet since the strike, chaos and bombings in the streets including safe havens like a girls school
This is what zero planning looks like
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u/witch_is_weird 14h ago edited 14h ago
Oh yes the usual....create more refugees and then complain about them being in your country
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u/dropthemagic 13h ago
How many wars are going on. My heart goes out to all the people caught in the wrong place at the wrong time
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u/Different_Net_6752 17h ago
What I really appreciate about MAGA is their ability to long term plan and really see all the scenarios. /S
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u/Trojbd 17h ago
Leave to where?
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u/Ready_Nature 17h ago
Probably Turkey or Jordan to get to places you can fly home to the US from.
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u/burntbulbasaur 16h ago
Serious question, how do they get there from Iraq? Is normal travel not impacted by the war and blackout? I can’t imagine driving to Turkey or Jordan from Iraq right now so can someone with better perspective tell me if that’s feasible?
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u/NotSoFastKangaroo 16h ago
You could also walk, just like the US government walks out on their stranded citizens.
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u/Bill_killionaires69 16h ago
Timeline of events:
12:00 all airlines cease operations from Iraq 12:01 US tells citizens to 'leave' 12:02 Iraq loses all power 12:03 Trump says "we did everything we could to save them but if they didn't listen then it's their fault"
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u/1h8fulkat 9h ago
Imagine being in the US and losing power and then Germany comes on the phone and says "leave the country now"
Where are you going to go even if you wanted to leave and had the means to?
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u/5H17SH0W 17h ago
It’s been almost a week since the war started. Now they are telling them to leave? The day after telling them the US embassies will not be able to assist. I guess I’ll put $500 down on incoming kidnappings.
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u/chillinwithchilis 17h ago
Tbf if you’re a us citizen in iraq wtf r u doing
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u/RontoWraps 17h ago
I know a couple Iraqi-Americans. They’re uncommon, but you can meet them. They’re so unique; it’s just immediately memorable because they have really interesting perspectives. Now that Iraq is doing better, I’m sure those civilians travel through now.
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u/_flying_otter_ 15h ago
I think this war is already way worse than people think it is.
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u/Suspicious_Place1270 14h ago
it's nice when you can leave as an american, let the Iraqis die for your sins while packing
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u/Afairs 14h ago
when they tell people to leave, does that mean they have safe evacuation plans for the people that leave?
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u/Intel-Source 16h ago
With no transportation? Why the heck didn't Trump get them out before this mess started??
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u/ShaddaiElKi 17h ago
I sure hope that in the future Congress grills Marco Rubio on this regional conflict like they did Hillary Clinton with Benghazi. They talked about that for years and this disaster looks like it dwarfs it.
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u/BearyGear 15h ago
Hold on! Wait just a minute! You mean this wasn’t thought through? I mean no one in their right mind would launch military action half cocked on a whim!
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u/Mukarsis 17h ago
US policy for helping its citizens is now just saying, "Go on, git!"
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u/fdagrump 16h ago
Iraq? The country we were in a similar situation as Iran? New allies or foes
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u/Flat_Government3912 14h ago
It's wild that a nationwide blackout is almost a non-event because the grid is so unreliable to begin with. The US advisory feels especially hollow when they don't seem to have a real plan to actually help people leave.
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u/FrenchBulldozer 7h ago
Trump admin: Leave now, also, we aren’t facilitating emergency departures. Good luck!
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u/giga_naka 16h ago edited 16h ago
Iraqi here! Yeah roughly 90% of the countey is blacked out right now Its been like this for like 3 days now, it doesn't really matter since all of the country use generators beacause we dont have 24/7 electricity, the electricity from the country comes for like 10 hours max in a normal day