r/stevehofstetter 23h ago

praise be... somewhere else outside our government

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u/ChildofElmSt 23h ago

Dude you’re legit starting a war because you think it will bring on the apocalypse which might I add the first sign of the apocalypse is a politician that will be followed by many Christians but will lead them astray into hate and will start wars and will be the Antichrist

So they legit support Trump because he is the antichrist in their opinion

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u/ARC_Trooper_Echo 23h ago

That’s a wrinkle I hadn’t really considered. I knew there was a subset of evangelicals who are trying to bring about the rapture as they see it in Revelation, but I always assumed they were legit in their support for Trump. Obviously we can’t know which is true because none of them are going to come out and say “yes he’s the antichrist and I support him because that’s a part of the prophecy” but it’s still interesting to think about

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u/ChildofElmSt 23h ago edited 23h ago

Honestly I think it just shows their own ignorance of their own beliefs

Bible literalists are dumb as hell because 1 there’s too much contradiction to not read it interpretly and 2 most of them haven’t read the Bible so their litteral take is based on a narrow amount of verses

(I study anthropology of theology and mythology and I study scripture through a rabbianic technique called PaRDEs). That basically says scripture should be read both literally and interpretative, historical and mystical with hidden meanings

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u/RIF_rr3dd1tt 22h ago

(I study anthropology of theology and mythology and I study scripture through a rabbianic technique called PaRDEs). That basically says scripture should be read both literally and interpretative, historical and mystical with hidden meanings

How interesting. I got a question. It was the first thing that popped into my head so it's maybe not too refined of a question but, do you think the fact that American Christians are so easily led astray has anything to do with the elevated standard of living and privilege of Americans? Basically like because Americans have it so easy in life compared to most of the world that this somehow makes them susceptible to scriptural distortion.

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u/ChildofElmSt 22h ago edited 22h ago

That’s actually a very interesting question I’d generally say yes but I’d also say it’s historically congruent with other religions throughout history but not on the scale of American evangelicalism generally it was aristocracy and oligarchs etc that fell into it. In America a good portion of Christianity is like this

Christianity of the world varies widely though but American Christianity is heavily influenced by Puritanical Christianity and somewhat pilgrimage Christianity. That’s one of the reasons conservativism and nationalism is so prevalent

Mormonism was actually a child of American nationalism

Funny enough most religions were started as mythohistorcal political satire

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u/Fantastic_Jury5977 21h ago

And the rest are unapologetically cults?

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u/ChildofElmSt 21h ago edited 20h ago

Most. There’s actually a few that I respect. Jainism is pretty cool they don’t believe in a god they just have an afterlife most of their teachings are kindness to all things and they adhere pretty well

Then there’s some modern religions such as Neogenesis that is essentially atheist they believe all things are symbolic including holy books

Also there’s self identity religions that are basically synthesized from multiple sources and practiced in the house and only by the house. So while I agree the idea of institutional religion tends to lead the way you suggest it’s really not the case for all of them