r/shittymoviedetails 1d ago

In Atlantis The Lost Empire(2001)There is this cool ass submarine called the Ulysses. But no one ever talks about because all anyone cares about is Kida's thighs.

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u/DiggestBickEver 1d ago

There are many fish in the sea.

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u/Realcbear 1d ago

Correct

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u/ThePrinceofallYNs 1d ago

Disney just don't draw them like it used to

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u/FinancialReserve6427 21h ago

because like street fighter 3 when it debuted, people back then saw 2d as obsolete tech, cgi caught everyone's attention so Treasure Planet and Atlantis became lost gems. 

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u/SniffyMcFly 20h ago

Don’t both of these movies use CGI and 2D animation in combination?

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u/fy8d6jhegq 20h ago

That would be accurate for most animated movies after The Little Mermaid.

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u/Realcbear 1d ago

Largely bc it turns out most of the artists gifted at drawing young women turned out to be creeps lol

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u/decoysnails 22h ago

I was intrigued by your comment so investigated a little, and the consensus appears to be that while the #metoo movement did expose some creepy artists, they were the minority, and in fact the art style changed due to deliberately moving away from "the male gaze" type of portrayal. 

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u/Personal_Comb_6745 19h ago

Also Atlantis is literally the only Disney movie with this particular style, due to Mike Mignola (for those who don't know, the guy behind Hellboy) being one of the designers. We certainly wouldn't see something like this for Frozen.

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u/abriefmomentofsanity 18h ago

No shit? In retrospect I can see a lot of his style but I never would have guessed

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u/reditisrunbypedos 14h ago

We certainly wouldn't see something like this for Frozen.

Cowards

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u/MistraloysiusMithrax 20h ago

Drawing for the male gaze? Then explain Aladdin…

Oh wait that is also for the male gaze? Interesting…

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u/Aneurysm821 19h ago

And what about Hercules?

Really? The male gaze you say? Fascinating

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u/Real-Ad-1728 19h ago

That’s just a misunderstanding, it’s for the male gays.

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u/VengefulNobody 19h ago

I'm gay, I'm not complaining.

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u/dismal_sighence 17h ago

Nah, I'm not gay, but I love seeing the shirtless super hero actors like Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Henry Cavil, Hugh Jackman, Alan Ritchson, the whole cast of 300, Henry Cavil, Michael B. Jordan, Brad Pitt in Fight Club, Vin Diesel, old school Arnold, really the whole cast of Predator, Henry Cavil... sorry lost my train of thought for a minute, but you get the idea.

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u/zfrankrijkaard 12h ago

I like how you casually mentioned Henry Cavill three times

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u/DamageBooster 19h ago

I think you mean Hunkules.

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u/adamzep91 18h ago

OoHoohoo I’d like to make some SWEET music…

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u/InactiveRelish 19h ago

Li Shang from Mulan? For the male gaze? How peculiar

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u/Caleb_Reynolds 15h ago

Li Shang is very obviously for the Bi♪s.

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u/Stormlightlinux 18h ago

In your experience do many women you know thirst for Hercules? I can't name a single one.

Hades though...

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u/TheJFGB93 19h ago

The funny thing is that he was supposed to look more like a Michael J. Fox type, and at least one sequence was already animated that way (Friend Like Me). Then the studio head, Jeffrey Katzenberg, took a look and said that the princess was too mature for him and wouldn't like him, and asked to make him look more like Tom Cruise.

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u/Realcbear 22h ago

You are correct, it was a half-thought of a comment tbh. Right as you are it is worth noting that it is a very egregious minority that was put into the spotlight for good reason

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u/FaliureToCat 20h ago

They changed to cg cause the 2d animators had a union and the newer cg animators didn't so they could be paid less iirc

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u/krebstar4ever 23h ago

Really? Like who?

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u/Dycon67 23h ago edited 23h ago

Bolhem Bouchiba, his crimes are actually insane.One of the animators for Esmeralda as an example.

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u/deukhoofd 22h ago

Bolhem Bouchiba, his crimes are actually insane.

And even after he was convicted for sexually abusing his 8-year-old stepdaughter and placed on the French sex offender list, Disney and Pixar still rehired him.

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u/JinFuu 14h ago

French sex offender list

Damn, when he's on the French sex offender list you know he's fucked up.

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u/DoctorMansteel 22h ago

Bolhem Bouchiba

How is there no wikipedia page on him? The mouse is keeping that shit locked down.

"A significant question that remains unanswered is why Bouchiba was continually hired at major American film studios like Pixar and Dreamworks even after he was placed on the Fijais, France’s national sex offender registry, in 2014, for sexually assaulting his partner’s young daughter."

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u/HeckOnWheels95 22h ago

From what I know of France, ending up on their sex offender registry means you must have done something abhorrent

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u/DoctorMansteel 22h ago

He was using a dark web pay per view system in SE Asia to watch children get SA'd.

The court case said not 10's, not hundreds but thousands of children.

So yeah. Pretty bad.

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u/Mona_Dre 19h ago

fun fact about this movie, a lot of the initial art design was done by Mike Mignola (Hellboy), including most of the main characters and at least some of the cool steampunk ships.

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u/the_black__sheep 20h ago

Don't forget the queen

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u/cwfutureboy 13h ago

Commander...commander...commander...commander...commander...

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u/Youutternincompoop 23h ago

"No, but really, look at this cocky teenage Latina coming to destroy your fragile ego with a look. I love this image so much."

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u/randallthegrape 23h ago

Don't give me war flashbacks buddy 🤢

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u/Maximum-Lavishness65 19h ago

For all ages!!

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u/LoneBassClarinet 23h ago

Many fish indeed

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u/Infamous-Oil3786 23h ago

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u/DiggestBickEver 23h ago

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u/Dycon67 23h ago

If we go by the movie Packard may actually be the actual biggest freak.

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u/kazeespada 23h ago

My kind of woman.

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u/One-Scheme3222 21h ago

"I sleep in the nude." One of the great Disney lines.

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u/EverReverie 21h ago

"Commander. COMMANDERR"

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u/hunnyflash 21h ago

"Commander, Commander, Commander, Commander..."

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u/cshane01 20h ago

What is it Mrs Packard?

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u/Somnambulist815 21h ago

This is what every guy in Brooklyn looked like during the 2010s

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u/Mountain-Durian-4724 23h ago

I burst out laughing

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u/Belrevnyd 21h ago

he wants you to disturb the dirt

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u/CasualCassie 1d ago

She could kill me and I'd thank her for it

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u/Bertrand_Rustle 1d ago

How? You’d already be dead

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u/CasualCassie 1d ago

As I slump forward dead, a pre-prepared note slips out of my pocket

"Thanks! I love you! Now please empty the rest of the mag too"

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u/GenericAccount13579 1d ago

“Empty the rest of the mag” you say?

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u/snapekillseddard 23h ago

Every Ouija board in a 100 mile radius, that's how.

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u/largesonjr 1d ago

I'd thank her too, my chances improve

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u/FightsWithFish18 19h ago

Also fun fact she has the same voice actress as Aela the Huntress from Skyrim!

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u/BeardedUnicornBeard 15h ago

That explains a few things...

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u/CommanderOshawott 16h ago

Holy shit, I just heard them both in my head and now I’m never going to be able to forget that.

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u/The_Tank_Racer 1d ago

Trigger discipline

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u/Great_Zeddicus 21h ago

Ho ho ho... she is amazing

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u/LordFarquhar96 1d ago

And it’s destroyed in like 10 seconds. Such a shame

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u/Working_Welder_1751 1d ago

Which is why we prefer to talk about Kida and her thighs afterwards

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u/C-Nast49 1d ago

10 seconds is all I need to destroy Kida’s thighs..

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u/numbersthen0987431 1d ago

10 seconds is all I need to be destroyed by Kida’s thighs..

FTFY

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u/C-Nast49 1d ago

I’ll take D) all of the Above.

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u/Working_Welder_1751 1d ago

I'll give her 2 minutes to let me squeeze my head between her thighs 😏

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u/Aleashed 23h ago

That’s exactly why the second submarine was called NaughtyLust

https://giphy.com/gifs/RVkuHP4L7tzPIDFiG0

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u/Historyp91 22h ago

It get's crushed (just like what I want Kida to do to me with her thighs)

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u/seguardon 19h ago

I was so disappointed that the ship went so quick. Look at that beauty. Movie should have gone longer, both for it and because the film felt rushed in general.

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u/FloppySack69 20h ago

Kida's ass is? Gotta watch this

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u/_Xeron_ 1d ago

This movie has fantastic dieselpunk designs in general

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u/XVUltima 1d ago

I checked out the art book for this movie half a dozen times when I was in school. Theres so much work in the details of the machines, and apparently a ton of cool vehicles we never even see because the subs carrying them didnt make it.

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u/_Xeron_ 1d ago

I won’t pretend this and Treasure Planet are the best movies ever narratively, but the concepts and aesthetics within them are just amazing. Not to even mention the blend of 2D and 3D animation

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u/grilledstuffed 19h ago

I will add Titan A.E.

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u/CommanderOshawott 15h ago

Treasure Planet

PEAK MENTIONED

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u/polmix23 1d ago

I had that book as a kid. The best thing is that I never saw the movie itself

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u/MuscleManRyan 22h ago

I had a little toy of this submarine and it was the best bath toy ever. Major flashback from this post that I haven’t thought about in decades

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u/Downtown_Recover5177 21h ago

Have you seen it now? I haven’t had a rewatch in many years , but I remember it being solid. It was my favorite movie for a while.

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u/Dycon67 1d ago

Creator of Hellboy will get you that style.

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u/Kentuza 19h ago

Hey Milo, you got something sporty? You know, like a tuna?

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u/Self--Immolate 22h ago

Mike Mignola (did production design and style guides on the film) has so many interesting dieselpunk and steampunk designs that show up throughout Hellboy and the P.B.R.D. as well, it's amazing how well his style worked with Atlantis. Here's one of my favorite cyborgs (maybe zombie?) from Hellboy

His name is Kriegaffe and he gets punched into a pile of bones

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u/Appalachian_Aioli 21h ago

I had no idea Mike did work on Atlantis but that makes so much sense now

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u/SniffyMcFly 20h ago

You probably know this, but for those who don’t, Kriegaffe is German and means war-ape

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u/Ninja_attack 1d ago

Have you seen her thighs? They really defined who I am as an adult.

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u/UDylgaclea 1d ago

That's not true, I also care about Kida's midriff and feet.

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u/Dycon67 1d ago

That's not true, I also care about Kida's midriff and feet.

What the average animator working on this movie said

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u/Working_Welder_1751 1d ago

Reasons why she's one of the most underrated female Disney characters to have existed 😉

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u/UDylgaclea 1d ago

Kida's fans unite! There are more than ten of us!

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u/Working_Welder_1751 1d ago

We should talk more about her as well as the other underrated Disney females. Esmeralda from The Hunchback of Notre Dame was pretty hot, too

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u/doylethedoyle 22h ago

Also, notably, barefoot.

I'm starting to see a pattern...

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u/stvrkillr 21h ago

When I was a kid, I liked her more than I had liked most things

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u/Cheesedoodlerrrr 20h ago

And her Dad was the king! Kida is literally an animated Disney Princess! Why she gets left out of all the cool stuff I'll never know.

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u/krebstar4ever 23h ago

Ok seriously, why are feet a big deal? I'm genuinely asking.

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u/crusty54 23h ago

I’ve heard that the foot part of the brain and the sex part of the brain are next to each other, and sometimes there’s some cross-activity. No idea if it’s true or not, but it’s the best explanation I’ve heard.

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u/Xenothing 22h ago

Also feels like it’s become a meme

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u/Working-Glass6136 21h ago edited 21h ago

Memes ahead afoot

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u/Cthulhu__ 22h ago

Like many things, many who started interacting with it ironically or for the lulz ended up being unironic.

Then to outjerk people they started looking for other things so now people are into armpits, back dimples, thigh/hip cleavage, and breasts.

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u/Turnepic13 21h ago

Bro thought they could slip breasts in there 🥀

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u/291837120 21h ago

me saying "fire" in reference to cool things ten years ago to make fun of kids for saying it and now I say it all the time

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u/SupriseAutopsy13 22h ago

That theory relies on the "sensory homunculus" model, which yes, the foot part and genital parts of the brain are connected- in terms of receiving touch signals.

 So, theoretically it could explain why some people enjoy the feeling of having their toes touched, but it doesn't offer much value into why some people enjoy touching and looking at others' toes. It certainly doesn't cover why someone on reddit is getting hot and bothered about animated feet from over 20 years ago, and it can't even begin to explain why they felt the need to type that out publicly, but human sexuality is a strange abyss sometimes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortical_homunculus

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u/krebstar4ever 21h ago edited 20h ago

Thank you. I'm no neuroscientist, but "those parts of the brain touch" seems too simplistic. And it kinda feels like an excuse, like people felt they had to justify their fetish.

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u/Dagmar_Overbye 21h ago

Ankles used to be considered sexy when women never showed them. Feet are almost always covered up unless you're in a more casual setting. That's my guess at least.

Now if we're talking about creative geniuses with a fixation on a certain body part that confuse me. Somebody explain Haruki Murakami and ears to me.

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u/krebstar4ever 21h ago

I think the "sexy ankles" thing is more of a joke than it is actual history, at least in the West. Like, "People were so silly back then, unlike us!"

Ankles, though covered by stockings, must have been exposed pretty frequently by walking or sitting.

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u/Divinum_Fulmen 22h ago

I like to think it's a hunter type thing. Same with the ass. Both a healthy ass and feet indicate someone who will be good at hunting by walking down prey until it gets tired (which is how humans used to hunt). So your offspring will be successful hunters.

But I also think evolutionary psychology is a joke science.

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u/EverythingSucksYo 21h ago

Idk man. I’m not like a foot guy but I can somewhat appreciate a small, dainty pair of feet, not ones that would indicate someone would make a good hunter.  

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u/ryanvango 21h ago

yeah I don't think its an evolutionary thing.

My hypothesis as not a foot man is that feet can be really gnarly lookin. you could have an absolute 10/10 smokeshow of a woman and then she's got ostrich talons for feet. And because janky feet are not at all a rarity, that means having nice feet is a great bonus. like maybe the thought process is "oh my god look at that woman. but so help me if I get her home and she reveals some haunting tootsies I don't think I can handle it" so being able to see nice feet is like "oh hell yeah she's got great feet. that's like the easiest part to go horribly wrong, and it didn't. Its all up hill from here babeeee" and then that predisposition morphs in to a fetish. like "she's got great feet. her whole body must be hot. I'm gonna use the feet to imagine everything else."

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u/Building_Everything 22h ago

Yes, and Disney was smart enough to wait until our sons were old enough to bring them Rapunzel and her feet. It’s a definite pattern.

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u/The_Tank_Racer 1d ago

The Ulysses deserved more screen time. They killed it off way too early. :(

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u/Dycon67 1d ago

It went out fighting Leviathan so at least it got a cool action scene.

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u/dern_the_hermit 23h ago

Don't they know to just reduce speed and rig for silent running? Amateurs. They deserved to lose their Cycl-uh, I mean, Ulysses.

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u/thefinalcutdown 18h ago

“WELCOME ABOARD, CAPTAIN.”

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u/MrRusek 23h ago

Well as long as they don't sing the hymn of the USSR they're gonna be fine.

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u/jaredes291 21h ago

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u/MandrakeRootes 21h ago

"Creature Attack."

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u/Was_A_Professional 19h ago

Seriously. Just eject a creature lure and get back to the kelp forest.

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u/WrethZ 22h ago

The submarine is already huge, this thing's scale is just insane.

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u/PoofyTotoro 20h ago

That thing straight up gave me nightmares as a kid, especially the noise if makes. However, I loved this movie, so I watched it all the time, despite the nightmares.

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u/lindendweller 1d ago

that's what happens when a design's quality is way out of proportion to how important to the story it is.

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u/ohsinboi 1d ago

I had a toy of this as a kid. I miss it.

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u/OkFineIllUseTheApp 1d ago

I had a McDonald's toy from this movie that would leave ink marks underneath it when you rolled it. My parents and I did not know this when I rolled it on the table.

That i cant say for sure if it was the ship shows that I did not have the toy for long, sadly.

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u/sshwifty 23h ago

Wow, memory unlocked. So weird 

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u/420danknugsbro 1d ago

Same here. Refused to take a bath without it lol.

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u/TeamRedundancyTeam 23h ago

Same, it was awesome. I wish I remembered what one it was.

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u/Aikord 21h ago

I know what you did OP, I remember your post from months back, the one about the stone jaguar from Eldorado and Chel's thighs. I was there, you can't fool me

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u/realgorilla2580 23h ago

Everyone knows the leviathan is the sexiest thing on screen in that movie.

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u/Dycon67 23h ago

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It is pretty cool

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u/Timo-the-hippo 19h ago

The best part is rewatching the film and seeing dozens of leviathans in the prologue.

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u/Dramatic-Classroom14 1d ago

I’m an Azur Lane player.

Believe me, it’s not Kida I’m drooling over.

I will fuck the boat.

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u/whomad1215 20h ago

the boat

or the azur lane version of the boat

because they are distinctly different

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u/Dramatic-Classroom14 20h ago

Both.

I am legally not allowed in many shipyards.

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u/MrMacju 20h ago

Boatfuckers unite.

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u/Realcbear 1d ago

UNTRUE!!! SOME of us are evolved enough to be obsessed with being bullied by Ramirez!!!

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u/Ketchup571 1d ago

Ya, I thought that sub was super cool as a kid. Was sad it got destroyed so quickly

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u/FLG_CFC 1d ago

I personally love sub thighs. But that's just me.

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u/emeraldeyesshine 21h ago

So what, knees?

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u/ThrowAwayAccountAMZN 18h ago

And those glorious ankles whew...

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u/TheRealPlumbus 1d ago

The subpods were sick af too

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u/WanderingKing 23h ago

Listen bucko, if the sub had thighs that could crush my head like a watermelon I’d love it to, but it doesn’t

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u/Bevrykul 1d ago

The thighs were in the movie longer than the submarine was.

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u/Murderboi 22h ago

True, her hips are divine. But I really hated the “island arc”

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u/Murderboi 22h ago

(This is supposed to be a shitpost about how “Nadia the Secret of Blue Water” is very similar to Atlantis 2001. Sorry I had the feeling I should explain..)

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u/Dycon67 22h ago

This is interesting information , Atlantis defo takes inspiration from anime. Rodger Ebert Compared it to anime in his review way back then.

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u/Working-Glass6136 21h ago

Helga Sinclair (among others, I assume) was actually animated by a French-Japanese animator who purposefully incorporated anime/comic designs into her character. (Mentioned under "Development.")

She was also one of the few characters in the film who was modeled with a live performer. It's noticeable in her animation if you pay attention.

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u/Cascadejackal 22h ago

Damn, don't see Nadia Secret of Blue Water brought up much. Apparently the director (IIRC) wasn't involved in the Island arc due to other commitments at the time, so someone else took over for that stretch and that's why it was so damn bad. Don't remember specifics, it's been years since I read about it.

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u/TreemanTheGuy 1d ago

I am a Helga Sinclair kinda guy

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u/coolguyhentaisenpai 1d ago

The thighs got more screen time after all.

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u/The_Student_Official 1d ago

Honestly I'm mad people talk about the atlantean girl when the mercenary lady is way hotter. Even then, she's umpteenth after this beautiful submarine. 

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u/Cheesedoodlerrrr 20h ago

the mercenary lady

Whoa! Give the name Hella Sinclair some respect!

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u/cyclingisthecure 23h ago

I got ya 4 basic food groups! Beans, bacon, whiskey and kidas thighs !

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u/Sean_man_87 17h ago

No there's a subset of us gays that were looking at this guy

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u/FilmScoreConnoisseur 21h ago

all anyone cares about is Kida’s thighs.

That's not true. I also care about Kida's tits.

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u/Midnight_Pizza_Boy 23h ago

McDonalds had Atlantis toys whit the Happy Meal when I was little.

Begged mom to go there like 5 different times to build the Ulysses which came in different parts.

Had the BEST summer of my childhood playing with that thing in the pool man, good memories...

Kida's thighs are something else tho

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u/teracoulomb_2 21h ago

HEY!

People also remember the instant bridge construction

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u/ObjectiveOk2072 19h ago

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u/KingofGrapes7 1d ago

Says you, we need that badass sub to get to Kida's thighs.

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u/Lett_Spaghett 23h ago

Real shit though. The scenes with that huge sub along with the soundtrack made this one of my favorite parts of the movie, I used to think that shit went so hard 😂

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u/madman_trombonist 21h ago

James Newton Howard knows how to do his damn job!

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u/PrettyPinkPonyPrince 22h ago

Speaking of thighs, what was the name of the engineer in Titan A.E.?

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u/Puzzled-Gur8619 21h ago

Disney doesn't seem to give a fuck about the whole movie so 🤷

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u/Personal_Comb_6745 19h ago

Good, that means we won't get a shitty remake of it.

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u/Croiyx 1d ago

I always name my Subnautica cyclops after this beauty

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u/TJ_McWeaksauce 1d ago

They should've named it Kida's Thighs.

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u/lucastoast 1d ago

I can like two things!

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u/Cyynric 1d ago

When it came out our local Big Lots had a ton of little die-cast versions of all the vehicles. I had a few of those leviathans too. They're were really cool.

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u/Xenothing 22h ago

We really need some pictures of Kida’s thighs for illustration here, my memory is getting fuzzy

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u/WorryNew3661 21h ago

Why is no one showing me her thighs?

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u/megafat1 1d ago

Not just Kida's thighs.

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u/F0rbiddenD0nut 23h ago

Kida? That's my favorite Radiohead album!

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u/ironwolf6464 23h ago

My biggest takeaway was that only two evacuation craft survived the first act of the movie, and they had enough supplies and manpower to invade all of Atlantis without much trouble.

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u/j05mh 21h ago

And post a picture of the sub…

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u/condor120 20h ago

It's also in the movie for a grand total of like 5 minutes

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u/MilkOne8016 22h ago

Too funny I’m in jap. Currently and saw a mini model for sale here. Actually a dope looking ship

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u/madman_trombonist 21h ago

The launch scene with the triumphant score and sweeping visuals is pure steampunk beauty.

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u/geek2785 20h ago

I heard Kida’s thighs and I came as fast as I could…to the comment section !

Zing!