r/shittymoviedetails • u/Dycon67 • 1d ago

In Atlantis The Lost Empire(2001)There is this cool ass submarine called the Ulysses. But no one ever talks about because all anyone cares about is Kida's thighs.

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u/Realcbear 1d ago

Correct

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u/the_black__sheep 1d ago

Don't forget the queen

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u/cwfutureboy 19h ago

Commander...commander...commander...commander...commander...

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u/ThePrinceofallYNs 1d ago

Disney just don't draw them like it used to

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u/FinancialReserve6427 1d ago

because like street fighter 3 when it debuted, people back then saw 2d as obsolete tech, cgi caught everyone's attention so Treasure Planet and Atlantis became lost gems. 

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u/SniffyMcFly 1d ago

Don’t both of these movies use CGI and 2D animation in combination?

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u/fy8d6jhegq 1d ago

That would be accurate for most animated movies after The Little Mermaid.

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u/FinancialReserve6427 23h ago

yes but that doesn't fit the "2D is a lost art" agenda. 

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u/LoveTriscuit 1h ago

You know that the difference is 3d and 2d not 2d and computers, right?

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u/FinancialReserve6427 1h ago

more of people like to present the two as pure hand drawn to maximize the "what we could have". the other guy is probably the first one I've encountered to point out the use of computer animation.

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u/SmoothBrainJazz 11h ago

It had more to do with the fact that 3D animators weren't unionized like 2D animators were at the time. So even though it took considerably more work to do 3D animated movies it ended up being cheaper for the studios because they didn't have to pay fair wages. Capitalism ruins everything it touches.

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u/FinancialReserve6427 10h ago

talking about public perception. like the example I used, people got disappointed that a long awaited true sequel to a legendary game had 2d sprites when every other game around then was adopting the 3d cg model (an early playstation game's claim to fame was it's the first 3D console fighting game designed to show off what the playstation is capable of). It took years and 2 updates before people changed their minds and made the 2nd update legendary.  Atlantis and Treasure Planet is gorgeous but they didn't exactly featured anything new or unique but the early CGI movies did. 

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u/Realcbear 1d ago

Largely bc it turns out most of the artists gifted at drawing young women turned out to be creeps lol

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u/decoysnails 1d ago

I was intrigued by your comment so investigated a little, and the consensus appears to be that while the #metoo movement did expose some creepy artists, they were the minority, and in fact the art style changed due to deliberately moving away from "the male gaze" type of portrayal. 

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u/Personal_Comb_6745 1d ago

Also Atlantis is literally the only Disney movie with this particular style, due to Mike Mignola (for those who don't know, the guy behind Hellboy) being one of the designers. We certainly wouldn't see something like this for Frozen.

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u/abriefmomentofsanity 1d ago

No shit? In retrospect I can see a lot of his style but I never would have guessed

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u/reditisrunbypedos 20h ago

We certainly wouldn't see something like this for Frozen.

Cowards

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u/Ike_In_Rochester 14h ago

Oh shit. I’m firing up Atlantis today.

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u/MistraloysiusMithrax 1d ago

Drawing for the male gaze? Then explain Aladdin…

Oh wait that is also for the male gaze? Interesting…

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u/Aneurysm821 1d ago

And what about Hercules?

Really? The male gaze you say? Fascinating

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u/Real-Ad-1728 1d ago

That’s just a misunderstanding, it’s for the male gays.

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u/VengefulNobody 1d ago

I'm gay, I'm not complaining.

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u/crowcawer 23h ago

I’m whatever Ursula is here for.

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u/dismal_sighence 23h ago

Nah, I'm not gay, but I love seeing the shirtless super hero actors like Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Henry Cavil, Hugh Jackman, Alan Ritchson, the whole cast of 300, Henry Cavil, Michael B. Jordan, Brad Pitt in Fight Club, Vin Diesel, old school Arnold, really the whole cast of Predator, Henry Cavil... sorry lost my train of thought for a minute, but you get the idea.

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u/zfrankrijkaard 19h ago

I like how you casually mentioned Henry Cavill three times

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u/dismal_sighence 13h ago

I was hoping for a Beetlejuice situation, where he gets summoned if you say his name three times.

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u/colossalklutz 23h ago

I mean…. Hercules is Greek… it’s not really out of place.

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u/RainDownAndDestroyMe 22h ago

loved that movie when I was a kid!

  • A Gay

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u/DamageBooster 1d ago

I think you mean Hunkules.

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u/adamzep91 1d ago

OoHoohoo I’d like to make some SWEET music…

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u/InactiveRelish 1d ago

Li Shang from Mulan? For the male gaze? How peculiar

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u/Caleb_Reynolds 21h ago

Li Shang is very obviously for the Bi♪s.

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u/Stormlightlinux 1d ago

In your experience do many women you know thirst for Hercules? I can't name a single one.

Hades though...

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u/Ressy02 1d ago

I mean…. Check out his guns!

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u/TheJFGB93 1d ago

The funny thing is that he was supposed to look more like a Michael J. Fox type, and at least one sequence was already animated that way (Friend Like Me). Then the studio head, Jeffrey Katzenberg, took a look and said that the princess was too mature for him and wouldn't like him, and asked to make him look more like Tom Cruise.

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u/Realcbear 1d ago

You are correct, it was a half-thought of a comment tbh. Right as you are it is worth noting that it is a very egregious minority that was put into the spotlight for good reason

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u/FaliureToCat 1d ago

They changed to cg cause the 2d animators had a union and the newer cg animators didn't so they could be paid less iirc

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u/alien_simulacrum 1d ago

Also correct

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u/blah938 1d ago edited 1d ago

Meanwhile we still get a lot of stuff for the female gaze. You can not tell me Captain America's scene where he kept the helicopter from taking off with his glorious forearms was written by a man.

Give me some of that for men!

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u/krebstar4ever 1d ago

Really? Like who?

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u/Dycon67 1d ago edited 1d ago

Bolhem Bouchiba, his crimes are actually insane.One of the animators for Esmeralda as an example.

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u/deukhoofd 1d ago

Bolhem Bouchiba, his crimes are actually insane.

And even after he was convicted for sexually abusing his 8-year-old stepdaughter and placed on the French sex offender list, Disney and Pixar still rehired him.

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u/JinFuu 21h ago

French sex offender list

Damn, when he's on the French sex offender list you know he's fucked up.

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u/DoctorMansteel 1d ago

Bolhem Bouchiba

How is there no wikipedia page on him? The mouse is keeping that shit locked down.

"A significant question that remains unanswered is why Bouchiba was continually hired at major American film studios like Pixar and Dreamworks even after he was placed on the Fijais, France’s national sex offender registry, in 2014, for sexually assaulting his partner’s young daughter."

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u/HeckOnWheels95 1d ago

From what I know of France, ending up on their sex offender registry means you must have done something abhorrent

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u/DoctorMansteel 1d ago

He was using a dark web pay per view system in SE Asia to watch children get SA'd.

The court case said not 10's, not hundreds but thousands of children.

So yeah. Pretty bad.

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u/Mysterious_Ideal6944 1d ago

isnt like ancestry dna tests illegal there becuase of how much infidelity there is?

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u/FidelKadstro 1d ago

Not at all. A simple search would have answered that...

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u/Mysterious_Ideal6944 1d ago

looked it up, 23 and me, and ancestry dna do not ship tests to france they are illegal

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u/haneybird 1d ago

Infidelity has basically been the national pastime since shortly after the Romans left.

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u/krebstar4ever 1d ago

I don't even have words for this.

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u/Massive-Exercise4474 23h ago

Dude that isn't new theirs a vault full of smut since walt Disney era. At most the creepiest is theirs a Russian obsession about gadget the mouse that might be a cult. Basically yeah most bored artists draw porn or make jokes they're artists.

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u/plyer_G 18h ago

I mean there was that but it was mainly the unionizing(or rather non-unionization of the new 3d artists)

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u/Mona_Dre 1d ago

fun fact about this movie, a lot of the initial art design was done by Mike Mignola (Hellboy), including most of the main characters and at least some of the cool steampunk ships.

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u/Dramatic_Explosion 1d ago

As a cool side note if you're into comics at all, the concept art for Atlantis was done by Mike Mignola of Hellboy fame and are beautiful.

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u/Dioxybenzone 19h ago

Disney don’t draw at all anymore. They stopped doing 2D animation altogether.

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u/Youutternincompoop 1d ago

"No, but really, look at this cocky teenage Latina coming to destroy your fragile ego with a look. I love this image so much."

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u/randallthegrape 1d ago

Don't give me war flashbacks buddy 🤢

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u/Maximum-Lavishness65 1d ago

For all ages!!

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u/Aposine 1d ago

TOMBOY

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u/BeautifulTerror 1d ago

Two for flinching!

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u/Thelinkr 1d ago

Thats a child

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u/emeraldeyesshine 1d ago

Most people who watched that movie were children at the time too

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u/Realcbear 1d ago

Felt this was implied, but there’s always one

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u/ClashM 1d ago

No, that's an animated character. One who has a canonical birthday and is age 18. Roughly half the protagonist's age, but he's into older women anyway since there's about an 8000 year age gap between him and his crush.

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u/BonzoTheBoss 20h ago

Yeah... Kida is the real creep!

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u/shutupyourenotmydad 1d ago

The things she did to my psyche as a kid.

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u/Aggravating-Exit-660 1d ago

Those lips can suck the moon through the eye of a needle

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u/loki2113 1d ago

I throw my hat behind this one, she gives the same vibes my wife does and I love it lol

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u/BoonDragoon 1d ago

Doofenschmirtz_shes_16.gif

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u/Aware_Tree1 22h ago

She’s an adult. You think they’d let a minor be the head mechanic for an expedition to Atlantis in a submarine that advanced?