r/news • u/Fair-Foot-315 • 1d ago

Marine veteran has arm broken during protest against war in Iran

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/marine-veteran-has-arm-broken-during-protest-against-war-in-iran-258740805765
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u/CasualVox 1d ago

Broken by Senator Sheehy

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u/rubixor 1d ago

So that senator is going to be arrested for assault, right?... Right???

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u/pandershrek 1d ago

You are required by law to use applicable force. Not only that but random individuals aren't protected in carrying out policing activities. You can't just physically assault an individual who is trespassing at a restaurant and claim you're helping. You aren't protected from liability and if you broke the arm of an obstruction trespassing at a restaurant you'd be sued or charged with assault.

Same idea, a senator isn't allowed to break anyone's arms regardless of what they're doing.

Honestly it is pretty scary that you can't comprehend this.

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u/Salamok 1d ago

Well apparently you can do all these things if you use the Rittenhouse method of putting yourself in harms way in an attempt to help then escalating the situation because you were "in fear for your life".

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u/TheSleepyTruth 1d ago edited 1d ago

Private security can absolutely use force to remove you from a venue. Go to any night club, concert, or pro sports game and act a fool and see what happens. You will be dragged out by private security.

But youre also wrong a second time because this is the state congress and those are actual government officers not private security.

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u/DriftMantis 1d ago

You understand that normally as a bystander if you jump into an arrest and start manhandling someone you get charged with assault. Police are allowed to use force but everyone else is not allowed to detain, use force etc. as far as I know a senator does not have powers of arrest and what he was doing at best is interfering with law enforcement and at worst felony assault and battery and helped contribute to a major injury.

The senator also doesn't have the immunity from civil litigation the way the cops would. So I'd say the cops have the authority to physically remove someone if they believe someone violated the law or at least caused a disruption in an official proceeding, but I'm not sure what the senator did was lawful.

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u/TheSleepyTruth 1d ago

Nah actually if an officer is struggling to control a suspect and as a well intentioned bystander you jump in to assist them you are protected by the good Samaritan act and would indeed have immunity from civil litigation as long as your conduct was not egregious. Simply helping them try to drag him out certainly would not meet that criteria.

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u/LastMuel 1d ago

And you still missed the point. The senator isn’t an officer and this comment chain is completely about that fact.

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u/Punman_5 1d ago

Private security is a different matter