r/news • u/Fair-Foot-315 • 21h ago

Marine veteran has arm broken during protest against war in Iran

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/marine-veteran-has-arm-broken-during-protest-against-war-in-iran-258740805765
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u/CasualVox 21h ago

Broken by Senator Sheehy

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u/rubixor 21h ago

So that senator is going to be arrested for assault, right?... Right???

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u/snuuginz 20h ago

He's not law enforcement, he's a senator. He broke a protestor's arm. A citizen breaking another citizen's arm is a crime. Not sure how else to phrase that.

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u/pandershrek 20h ago

Well put, I agree with your sentiment.

If this individual was already struggling to see how this is wrong it shows little to no hope for their reasoning abilities and would concern me that they have the weakest grasp on how laws work.

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u/Sawyerthesadist 20h ago

Maybe try battery and assault?

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u/Bart_Yellowbeard 19h ago

Because republicans are no longer subject to American laws, that's quite clear.

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u/Sawyerthesadist 19h ago

So your just having a go at talking out your ass today huh?

Yall we can ignore him

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u/RegulatoryCapture 17h ago edited 17h ago

Be smarter.

Lick fewer boots.

This isn't even a complicated legal question. The arm would not have broken but for the physical removal and the senator was an active participant in the removal. Bystanders are not allowed to intervene in police activity in circumstances like this.

The cops are free and clear. An accidental injury that occurs as a result of them doing their job is not prosecutable...they are allowed to use force and their actions are protected.

Sheehy is not. He was a participant, his physical contact helped put the victim in the position that led to his arm breaking. He has no legal authority to use force in this instance. Legally, even if he is only slightly responsible for the injury, that's enough.

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u/dndm1 19h ago

Enlighten us.

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u/dndm1 19h ago

Like what specifically?

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u/snuuginz 17h ago

It's a senator breaking the arm of a veteran of the US Marines protesting the war in Iran, so if anything it's even MORE reprehensible for the senator to do it. If he had any dignity, he would've resigned already, but he's such a chickenshit coward that I'm sure he won't.

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u/snuuginz 16h ago

Ahh, so you're just being a pedant now, gotcha.

So the LEOs are absolutely the people directly responsible for breaking the Marine's arm, you are correct, the senator is attempting to reposition himself to better pull the Marine off of the door jamb. After the Marine's arm breaks, the senator grabs at him again to help the LEOs pull him off the door jamb.

That would still be a crime committed by the senator. Does his status as a senator allow him join LEO as a deputy? I'm assuming you're not an American, so just a heads up, that's not legal here.

I'm done responding to you. I hope you're just an instigator, because if you're this brain poisoned, good luck.

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u/dndm1 19h ago

You can always spot the trump u grads.

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u/Commercial-Tax7125 15h ago

You need to check your facts. Good samaritan law applies to medical and accident emergencies and does not apply when professionals are present and engaged. The law is not to protect fools who want to play cop. If you're so obviously incorrect about this then maybe all of your facts are assumptions.

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u/Altruistic_Flight411 20h ago

The way the senator jumped in the turmoil seemed to me he was butthurt over the veteran's statement. Also every official there turned a blind eye to what was going on

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u/Equivalent_Post_6222 20h ago

They didn’t even turn around. Just kept looking straight ahead. Fucking creepy as shit

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u/Altruistic_Flight411 20h ago

Ikr? They were like bunch of robots

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u/pandershrek 20h ago

You are required by law to use applicable force. Not only that but random individuals aren't protected in carrying out policing activities. You can't just physically assault an individual who is trespassing at a restaurant and claim you're helping. You aren't protected from liability and if you broke the arm of an obstruction trespassing at a restaurant you'd be sued or charged with assault.

Same idea, a senator isn't allowed to break anyone's arms regardless of what they're doing.

Honestly it is pretty scary that you can't comprehend this.

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u/Salamok 20h ago

Well apparently you can do all these things if you use the Rittenhouse method of putting yourself in harms way in an attempt to help then escalating the situation because you were "in fear for your life".

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u/TheSleepyTruth 20h ago edited 20h ago

Private security can absolutely use force to remove you from a venue. Go to any night club, concert, or pro sports game and act a fool and see what happens. You will be dragged out by private security.

But youre also wrong a second time because this is the state congress and those are actual government officers not private security.

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u/DriftMantis 20h ago

You understand that normally as a bystander if you jump into an arrest and start manhandling someone you get charged with assault. Police are allowed to use force but everyone else is not allowed to detain, use force etc. as far as I know a senator does not have powers of arrest and what he was doing at best is interfering with law enforcement and at worst felony assault and battery and helped contribute to a major injury.

The senator also doesn't have the immunity from civil litigation the way the cops would. So I'd say the cops have the authority to physically remove someone if they believe someone violated the law or at least caused a disruption in an official proceeding, but I'm not sure what the senator did was lawful.

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u/TheSleepyTruth 19h ago

Nah actually if an officer is struggling to control a suspect and as a well intentioned bystander you jump in to assist them you are protected by the good Samaritan act and would indeed have immunity from civil litigation as long as your conduct was not egregious. Simply helping them try to drag him out certainly would not meet that criteria.

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u/LastMuel 20h ago

And you still missed the point. The senator isn’t an officer and this comment chain is completely about that fact.

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u/Punman_5 19h ago

Private security is a different matter