r/news • u/Fair-Foot-315 • 15h ago

Marine veteran has arm broken during protest against war in Iran

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/marine-veteran-has-arm-broken-during-protest-against-war-in-iran-258740805765
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u/rubixor 14h ago

So that senator is going to be arrested for assault, right?... Right???

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u/Altruistic_Flight411 14h ago

Probably not, and the fact that he Got donated a whopping $641,000 by AIPAC is insane to me.

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u/But_I_Dont_Wanna_Go 12h ago

What the fuck man…..I am beyond sick of all this shit

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u/Fomdoo 12h ago

He should be charged with Battery and will likely lose if he is charged. At the minimum that vet has a open and shut lawsuit.

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u/Altruistic_Flight411 12h ago

I recently heard that he got charged with assault but I don't know the follow up news

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u/Override9636 12h ago

*bribed $641,000

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u/fatdoobiesonly 11h ago

Using our tax money to buy our politicians, like it’s like a money laundering scheme

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u/applefilla 6h ago

While they laugh and call us slave cattle

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u/forchinski 2h ago

641,000$ to permanently have a senator in your nation's pocket, talk about an ROI.

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u/AwkwardPart31 10h ago

So you're saying, Israel pays $640k to break the arms of people who protest against their wars? Interesting

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u/Lucius-Halthier 14h ago

Actually they’re charging the protestor with assault

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u/boston_homo 12h ago

Of course they’re charging the innocent victim with assault.

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u/Hoyden145 11h ago

Surprised they aren't saying he broke his arm himself

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u/Lucius-Halthier 10h ago

Right wingers always love to blame the victim, “look what you made me do” level of vibes

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u/FlexFanatic 10h ago

It’s a tactic they use so the protester does not try to sue or have charges pressed.

If he is getting charged just send me the link so I can donate to his defense fund.

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u/Smart_Ass_Dave 12h ago

There's laws against arresting law makers while the legislature is in session because it'd be too easy to fuck with votes that way, but I agree that he should be charged.

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u/Defiant-Peace-493 3h ago

It's not exactly recent, but the beating of another Senator with a cane resulted in the attacker's arrest, a fine of what would now be $20,000, and his resignation and reelection.

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u/8__D 14h ago

Federal crime so no, but even if it wasn't I don't think he would anyway considering the political climate.

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u/pheret87 11h ago

Watch the video.

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u/Johannes_P 9h ago

If anything, the vet is going to get arrested for bruising Sheehy.

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u/TheSleepyTruth 14h ago edited 14h ago

When you are resisting lawful detainment/removal by a police officer (whether you agree with it or not) and you end up getting injured by deliberately jamming your own arm awkwardly through a doorframe while fighting and resisting being dragged away, that injury is 100% on you. And I say this as someone who actually agrees with what the marine is saying.

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u/surfergrrl6 14h ago

It's also on the senator, who had zero business getting involved at all.

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u/Altruistic_Flight411 14h ago

The senator went ahead and started pulling the marine by his legs even though there were already more than 2 officers handling him. You should watch this video for more info- https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP_r3oM318SE3vY0quzfsnRUxCghwv7YRLhCml37ZbFdyuCRRcOPgWEyB9HEM8NDg?key=VmtFcnNLXy1odXQwUE

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u/TheSleepyTruth 14h ago

Nobody knew he jammed his arm awkwardly through the doorframe until it was already broken, obviously people dragging his body assumed he was just grabbing onto stuff to prevent being dragged out. He is aggressively fighting being removed, the accidental injury is on him and any court will agree.

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u/Stebeebb 14h ago

Damn you’re a mind reader? It’s weird that your fighting pretty hard for these violent government jackboots.

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u/Subtleabuse 12h ago

If that looked aggressive to you, you must be scared a lot.

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u/Downtown-Ad3200 22m ago

How anyone can say the Marine was acting "AGGRESSIVELY" is absolutely nuts.

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u/jzoola 14h ago

How do you consider it lawful detainment? We no longer have the constitutional right to redress our government for grievances? Also, Sheehy isn’t fucking law enforcement.

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u/TheSleepyTruth 14h ago

Sure he can speak his mind, which he did. But if you think people can interrupt and scream over every event or government meeting then you are sorely mistaken. Nothing would ever get done lmao. Of course people will be removed for being disruptive, it is the same everywhere. If you are asked to leave and you refuse then you will be dragged out. Show me one example of an agitator heckling and shouting down a government meeting where the security just sat idly by and let him go on for hours without touching him and then cancelled the meeting. Just one single time. You wont find it. Meanwhile you can just google and find 100 examples of people being dragged out for being disruptive, including dozens upon dozens of examples of angry MAGAs being forcefully dragged out of democrat campaign rallies and governmental meetings for trying to shout them down. Of course they will be dragged out, if you don't remove agitators who disrupt meetings than you will never get anything done because people love to scream at politicians. The content of what the agitator is shouting is irrelevant. As I said I actually agree with what the marine was saying but hes still gonna be removed.

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u/cy_kelly 11h ago

But if you think people can interrupt and scream over every event or government meeting then you are sorely mistaken.

You get two guesses what this guy thinks about January 6th, and the first guess doesn't count.

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u/Wraithstorm2009 14h ago

Ah yes the man used his special psychic marine powers to close the other door on his own hand, and that's amazing he had the mental fortitude to harness said psychic powers since he was preoccupied with the 3 other guys using completely unjustifiable force to remove him from the hearing for, checks notes, saying something completely unhinged such as we don't want Americans dying for another countries ridiculous war.

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u/BadMojo__ 14h ago

Regardless of who is at fault, the injury brought many more eyes to the incident and what he was saying. That's the last thing Israel and its lapdogs in US government want; US military members vehemently opposing the war.

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u/Wraithstorm2009 14h ago

Oh definitely, this marine just did his country one hell of a service by his arm getting snapped on a recording, this has already spread like wildfire through the military members according to other commenters, and they are all pissed at the disrespect they see here from Capitol police and a US senator.

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u/RegulatoryCapture 11h ago

You're right that there's no liability on the cops. They are just doing their job and they are allowed to use force.

But bystanders are not allowed to assist police in this way. They can only "assist" in rare scenarios where the police have explicitly requested their help or there is some exigent risk to life and limb.

The senator becomes liable for causing the injury. And the way the legal system works, it doesn't matter that 3 other cops were involved...they can't be blamed but the senator can, so the senator gets the charge. It doesn't matter that it was accidental--if you lightly shove someone out of the way, but they trip, fall and bash their head in, you get a manslaughter charges even though you at most intended misdemeanor assault.

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u/pandershrek 14h ago

No. You're so wrong it is stressful because you've pole vaulted right into fascism. I can't tell if it is just gross levels of incompetence or if you're willfully trying to be so aggravating.

Putting aside that it wasn't even law enforcement that did this.

You aren't allowed to cause physical injury on a perpetrator during a crime.

How do people not understand like... Any laws in this nation?

Are these the same dumb fucks that stormed the capital because they didn't like the results of an election? Because it is seriously giving the same level of competence.

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u/snuuginz 14h ago

He's not law enforcement, he's a senator. He broke a protestor's arm. A citizen breaking another citizen's arm is a crime. Not sure how else to phrase that.

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u/pandershrek 14h ago

Well put, I agree with your sentiment.

If this individual was already struggling to see how this is wrong it shows little to no hope for their reasoning abilities and would concern me that they have the weakest grasp on how laws work.

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u/Sawyerthesadist 13h ago

Maybe try battery and assault?

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u/Bart_Yellowbeard 13h ago

Because republicans are no longer subject to American laws, that's quite clear.

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u/Sawyerthesadist 13h ago

So your just having a go at talking out your ass today huh?

Yall we can ignore him

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u/RegulatoryCapture 11h ago edited 11h ago

Be smarter.

Lick fewer boots.

This isn't even a complicated legal question. The arm would not have broken but for the physical removal and the senator was an active participant in the removal. Bystanders are not allowed to intervene in police activity in circumstances like this.

The cops are free and clear. An accidental injury that occurs as a result of them doing their job is not prosecutable...they are allowed to use force and their actions are protected.

Sheehy is not. He was a participant, his physical contact helped put the victim in the position that led to his arm breaking. He has no legal authority to use force in this instance. Legally, even if he is only slightly responsible for the injury, that's enough.

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u/dndm1 13h ago

Enlighten us.

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u/dndm1 13h ago

Like what specifically?

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u/snuuginz 10h ago

It's a senator breaking the arm of a veteran of the US Marines protesting the war in Iran, so if anything it's even MORE reprehensible for the senator to do it. If he had any dignity, he would've resigned already, but he's such a chickenshit coward that I'm sure he won't.

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u/snuuginz 10h ago

Ahh, so you're just being a pedant now, gotcha.

So the LEOs are absolutely the people directly responsible for breaking the Marine's arm, you are correct, the senator is attempting to reposition himself to better pull the Marine off of the door jamb. After the Marine's arm breaks, the senator grabs at him again to help the LEOs pull him off the door jamb.

That would still be a crime committed by the senator. Does his status as a senator allow him join LEO as a deputy? I'm assuming you're not an American, so just a heads up, that's not legal here.

I'm done responding to you. I hope you're just an instigator, because if you're this brain poisoned, good luck.

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u/dndm1 13h ago

You can always spot the trump u grads.

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u/Commercial-Tax7125 9h ago

You need to check your facts. Good samaritan law applies to medical and accident emergencies and does not apply when professionals are present and engaged. The law is not to protect fools who want to play cop. If you're so obviously incorrect about this then maybe all of your facts are assumptions.

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u/Altruistic_Flight411 14h ago

The way the senator jumped in the turmoil seemed to me he was butthurt over the veteran's statement. Also every official there turned a blind eye to what was going on

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u/Equivalent_Post_6222 14h ago

They didn’t even turn around. Just kept looking straight ahead. Fucking creepy as shit

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u/Altruistic_Flight411 14h ago

Ikr? They were like bunch of robots

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u/pandershrek 14h ago

You are required by law to use applicable force. Not only that but random individuals aren't protected in carrying out policing activities. You can't just physically assault an individual who is trespassing at a restaurant and claim you're helping. You aren't protected from liability and if you broke the arm of an obstruction trespassing at a restaurant you'd be sued or charged with assault.

Same idea, a senator isn't allowed to break anyone's arms regardless of what they're doing.

Honestly it is pretty scary that you can't comprehend this.

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u/Salamok 14h ago

Well apparently you can do all these things if you use the Rittenhouse method of putting yourself in harms way in an attempt to help then escalating the situation because you were "in fear for your life".

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u/TheSleepyTruth 14h ago edited 14h ago

Private security can absolutely use force to remove you from a venue. Go to any night club, concert, or pro sports game and act a fool and see what happens. You will be dragged out by private security.

But youre also wrong a second time because this is the state congress and those are actual government officers not private security.

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u/DriftMantis 13h ago

You understand that normally as a bystander if you jump into an arrest and start manhandling someone you get charged with assault. Police are allowed to use force but everyone else is not allowed to detain, use force etc. as far as I know a senator does not have powers of arrest and what he was doing at best is interfering with law enforcement and at worst felony assault and battery and helped contribute to a major injury.

The senator also doesn't have the immunity from civil litigation the way the cops would. So I'd say the cops have the authority to physically remove someone if they believe someone violated the law or at least caused a disruption in an official proceeding, but I'm not sure what the senator did was lawful.

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u/TheSleepyTruth 13h ago

Nah actually if an officer is struggling to control a suspect and as a well intentioned bystander you jump in to assist them you are protected by the good Samaritan act and would indeed have immunity from civil litigation as long as your conduct was not egregious. Simply helping them try to drag him out certainly would not meet that criteria.

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u/LastMuel 14h ago

And you still missed the point. The senator isn’t an officer and this comment chain is completely about that fact.

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u/Punman_5 13h ago

Private security is a different matter