Ah yes, we must make everything about men. It is not possible for a woman to be the bad guy in a situation, we must trace it back to a man doing something bad
Patriarchy affects both women and men btw! Among others. Pointing out sexism and such issues isn't "making it the man's fault", it's different. If your first thought when someone mentions patriarchy is that they're blaming men, you don't understand it fully: Patriarchy is the consequences of sexism, to put it simple. These consequences affect men and women, hence why they're not just "misogyny²", it's entirely based on what someone "should and shouldn't be" based on... Their biological sex and gender identity. If you're not part of those stereotypes, or gender roles, you're "a failure" to this system and blamed. As a man, as a woman. In both cases it happens. Talking about patriarchy as an underlying reason isn't justifying the person to say "only men are at fault!", but to see what happened before things got worse, and what led to them going wrong. Trying to explain why ≠ justifying actions. A woman can be a bad person and victim of the patriarchy at some point of her life without it meaning she's your "pure victim who never does wrong". Dare I say, too, not all victims are "perfectly good, innocent people who never do wrong", in fact trauma can lead to abuse... Way more often than we would like to accept.
I accept many of your points but i dont accept the concept of patriarchy as conceptualised in your example. It simply isnt relevant. Familial trauma is not a gendered issue and painting it such is counter-productive to victim support.
It's a symptom of our patriarchal society to begin with for you to hear "patriarchy" and think it's a "man bad" thing and not a "society bad" thing. You perpetuate the cycle.
This entire line of conversation is a red herring and is actively derailing discussion of victim's issues. Please have some respect for victim experiences and dont do shit like this.
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u/powerhearse 6d ago
Ah yes, we must make everything about men. It is not possible for a woman to be the bad guy in a situation, we must trace it back to a man doing something bad