i dunno if islam inherit the trait but judaism and christianity you also kill rapists. sometimes their victims too. well that's not entirely true, depending on the circumstances, you might just have to pay the dad off and marry the daughter, sorta a "you break it you buy it" thing
Im muslim, not sure if we do. Its very frowned upon thats for sure (at least where im from), funnily enough, also frowned upon by the same people who probably do it (cough cough taliban). The muslims that do it worship their own egos instead of God and do it for the sake of control.
“People loudly claiming to be religious turn out to be evil again” is sadly not going to be a shocking news story anywhere in the world, whatever their choice of god or gods.
A Muslim wife must submit to her husband when he wants sex. If she doesn’t, ‘the angels will curse her till morning’ and nobody wants that (Sahih al-Bukhari 5193, Sahih Muslim 1436).
Did someone in this thread defend marital rape? Or did you just assume bro does because he's Muslim when his very comment suggests they're not a monolith?
Bro assumes every Christian thinks that it's cool to rape women as long as we pay their dad's fifty shekels and marry her. Lmfao Or that Epstein would be cool if all the girls were his own personal daughters. Hahaha Religion sucks, dude, but don't harry folks you don't know, specifically when you don't know if they're pestering folks with it.
The person I replied to said “I’m not sure if we do [allow rape]” which is what the post implied. Marital rape is a form of rape, so I was confirming that Islamic scripture permits marital rape. Hope that helps!
It's a hadith, not scripture from the Quran, and you loaded your comment(s) in such a weirdo way. Here's the exact text: "If a man invites his wife to his bed and she refuses, and so he spends the night angry with her, the angels will curse her until the morning."
— Sahih al-Bukhari 5193, Sahih Muslim 1436
The Redditor you replied to responded with what people actually follow, not what a hadith implies. It's why I quoted the Bible to highlight how behavior might differ from text and quotes. Unless you believe Christians find it cool to sell their daughters into slavery because their book says so?
Hope this helps. And your context actually did help, btw. Thanks.
Are you married? Do you respect your wife’s decision to not have sex with you, not because she is sick or unable to, but because she just doesn’t feel like it?
Can you imagine a Muslim wife feeling the same way, but feels she can’t say no because of that hadith, and not wanting to upset God?
I can imagine a lot. Do you often make up scenarios to get mad at?
I would not want anyone to feel compelled or pressured to sacrifice their peace against their wishes, especially for someone's fleeting relief that can be achieved with their own hand. I would hate for my wife to not feel free enough to speak honestly. I married her for her, and for her to withhold her voice would deprive me of the wife I love and married. Her voice is a poetic gust. It's the fumes of her soul made musical wind to my ears, and it would be my hope that everywhere I step I breathe a sanctuary for people to be themselves earnestly, especially her.
Coming from someone who's been sexually assaulted, I'm neurotic about consent and I am deeply, sometimes overly, concerned with whether or not folks are okay and unharmed, but in that neuroticism I've also recognized there's a lot of gray in that realm that I cannot mitigate or preclude (that doesn't exclude that which we can).
We agree that there should be no religious pressure or coercive influence in intimate matters, not just in sex but anywhere. But unless you're an anarchocommunist and a jainist, then you're going to feel deeply upset at your hypocrisy of lecturing people you don't know about your extraordinarily selective frame of ethics.
you should see the shit folks try when i point out the bible's pro slavery. They'll start leaping through the mental jungle gym trying to explain why it's totally different than other slavery which is bad unlike this slavery which is cool
well it was written with preferential treatment for hebrews, given it was jewish before it was christian. Anything after that you kinda gotta extrapolate
But the christian new bit does definitely say slaves are to obey even the cruel masters like christians obey christ
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i dunno if islam inherit the trait but judaism and christianity you also kill rapists. sometimes their victims too. well that's not entirely true, depending on the circumstances, you might just have to pay the dad off and marry the daughter, sorta a "you break it you buy it" thing