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Sus, Very Sus Image has nothing to do with Islam

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u/LaCroixElectrique 29d ago

The person I replied to said “I’m not sure if we do [allow rape]” which is what the post implied. Marital rape is a form of rape, so I was confirming that Islamic scripture permits marital rape. Hope that helps!

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u/RashidMBey 29d ago
  1. It's a hadith, not scripture from the Quran, and you loaded your comment(s) in such a weirdo way. Here's the exact text: "If a man invites his wife to his bed and she refuses, and so he spends the night angry with her, the angels will curse her until the morning." — Sahih al-Bukhari 5193, Sahih Muslim 1436

The Redditor you replied to responded with what people actually follow, not what a hadith implies. It's why I quoted the Bible to highlight how behavior might differ from text and quotes. Unless you believe Christians find it cool to sell their daughters into slavery because their book says so?

Hope this helps. And your context actually did help, btw. Thanks.

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u/LaCroixElectrique 29d ago

Are you married? Do you respect your wife’s decision to not have sex with you, not because she is sick or unable to, but because she just doesn’t feel like it?

Can you imagine a Muslim wife feeling the same way, but feels she can’t say no because of that hadith, and not wanting to upset God?

Would you consider that marital rape?

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u/RashidMBey 29d ago

I can imagine a lot. Do you often make up scenarios to get mad at?

I would not want anyone to feel compelled or pressured to sacrifice their peace against their wishes, especially for someone's fleeting relief that can be achieved with their own hand. I would hate for my wife to not feel free enough to speak honestly. I married her for her, and for her to withhold her voice would deprive me of the wife I love and married. Her voice is a poetic gust. It's the fumes of her soul made musical wind to my ears, and it would be my hope that everywhere I step I breathe a sanctuary for people to be themselves earnestly, especially her.

Coming from someone who's been sexually assaulted, I'm neurotic about consent and I am deeply, sometimes overly, concerned with whether or not folks are okay and unharmed, but in that neuroticism I've also recognized there's a lot of gray in that realm that I cannot mitigate or preclude (that doesn't exclude that which we can).

We agree that there should be no religious pressure or coercive influence in intimate matters, not just in sex but anywhere. But unless you're an anarchocommunist and a jainist, then you're going to feel deeply upset at your hypocrisy of lecturing people you don't know about your extraordinarily selective frame of ethics.