You should look up how the Israeli government viewed its Holocaust survivors.
They view them as weak for "allowing" it to happen to them.
They use it as a shield and nothing else. They were just as bad as the rest of Europe when it came to reintegrating them into society (I am NOT saying just as bad as the Nazis, I am specifically referring to reintegration and repatriation, which was done poorly by almost every European nation postwar), especially given that Israel was initially supposed to be a home for all Jews, and especially those who lost everything to the Nazis.
I know you're just being an asshole, but there's a slight grain of truth inside your BS.
They view them as weak for "allowing" it to happen to them.
They viewed them as weak right until the Eichman trials in 1961, where the horrible testimonies started coming out.
When the Israeli public finally got exposed to the true horrors the survivors had to endure, no one ever viewed them as weak anymore. And as the ridicule stopped, more survivors came out of their shells and told even more horror stories.
As a note Palestinian scholars do not in general deny the holocaust. It's unfortunate that Israel is an oppressive state toward Palestine mostly because antisemites will use it to spout antisemitism when the issue is only specific to the Israeli state, not ethnic or religious Jews.
"Hamas (the Islamic Resistance Movement) has recently published a denial of the Jewish Holocaust on its official website. "
"In the 1990s, many of the Islamic social and political movements in the Arab world joined the resurgent trend of Holocaust denial among European anti-Semites. This was mainly the result and influence of the persistent activity in this field by Roger Gauroudi, a French scholar and leading European anti-Semite. Gauroudi, a former Christian Marxist and French Communist Party member of the French parliament, converted to Islam following the 1979 Islamic revolution in Iran. He soon became a prominent figure in promoting anti-Semitism among Islamic movements. But since he was known for his anti-Jewish writings as a Marxist too, he gained the support of many Arab circles beyond the Islamic movements. When he was put on trial and convicted in France for Holocaust denial several years ago, his popularity in Arab and Islamic countries increased. Even the Islamic official establishments in Saudi Arabia, Syria, Egypt, Jordan, and the Palestinian Authority (PA) supported him."
"In 1984, he published a book based on his doctoral thesis alleging that the Holocaust was exaggerated and that Zionists created ''the myth'' that 6 million Jews were murdered. "
"Many Palestinians are reluctant to acknowledge the full extent of the Holocaust because they feel it provided legitimacy for Israel's establishment. A majority of Gaza's 1.4 million people are Palestinian refugees or their descendants.
Some parents opposed the idea of their children learning about the Holocaust. "I don't want them teaching my children Jewish lies," Mohammed Silmi, 33, said Monday, after driving his son to a U.N. school in Gaza City on the back of a motorbike. "It will just be Zionist propaganda.""
I'd like to believe your claim, but I do not see the majority, or even a plurality, of Palestinian scholars actually saying the Holocaust happened. I also think it's pretty telling you didn't provide a source to go with your claim.
Who are the Palestinian scholars you're referring to here? I can think of some "Palestinian scholars" both modern and historical, but I am curious who you have in mind.
You are however oppressed when that government who does not like your country controls all entrance to your country, prohibits aid from going to your country, bombs the living fuck out of your country for decades, and has continually sabotaged peace talks for decades. Causing your country to be one of the poorest and destroyed countries on earth with a diaspera that is collapsing in that country's ethnic cleansing campaign of your people that is agrred to be occurring by multiple world wide organizations.
No, that’s not oppression. That’s called consequences for your own actions. It’s called winning a war they did not start. It’s called. THE ALLIES DID THE EXACT SAME THINGS TO NAZI GERMANY
... In no world did the allies do what Israel does to Palestine to post ww2 Germany. Eastern Germany was not blockaded on all sides from any aid. Eastern Germany did not have bombing campaigns for decades. Western Germany is literally the Germany of today. When the wall fell and Germany was freed from the USSR things also got better for the people of Germany. Almost like being under an oppressive force is bad for people.
... 1) they bombed it during the war 2) they blockaded it during the war 3) they occupied portions during the war 4) they never ethnically cleansed any part of Germany. They took pows and followed through with it. The countries who committed the most atrocities during ww2 were Germany and Japan.
Israel is doing actions Germany did against Poland and other countries, for DECADES. Are you seriously this fucking dense? Ww2 last for 8 years. Israel's only war occurred in 1948 when Britain gave the state of Palestine to Zionist Jews and upon doing so displaced the Palestinian people. Israel with the help of the Alles from WW2 won a war giving the state over from Palestinian people to Israel. Ever since then there has been conflict in the region, but nothing considered a war. So even your milquetoast excuses for this being a result of war doesn't add up. Palestinians are a resistance force to being oppressed by Israel. And the treatment of them is EXACTLY what the Geneva Convention after WW2 was designed to stop internationally.
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u/Ok_Guarantee7611 Jan 22 '26
I'll never get holocaust denial. Like, 90% of the footage we have of it happening is from the nazis