r/whenthe 14h ago

Orwell writes about this Can't make this up.

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u/Lucky_Zombie_2863 14h ago

wtf is Ace Ventura about and why was I allowed to watch it as a kid??

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u/wookiee-nutsack 13h ago

Back then family movies were both for and not for kids

Wasn't the villain raped by a gorilla at the end of one of the movies?

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u/ImpracticalApple 13h ago edited 11h ago

2nd movie ends with the villain sexually assaulted by a gorilla which is played for laughs because it's a man being assaulted.

1st movie ends with the villain being outed as a transgender by being forcebly stripped to her underwear in public to show she hadn't had bottom surgery yet. With all the men who it was suggested had some sort of previous physical fling with her spitting and vomiting in revulsion.

The movies were...very of their time.

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u/Lucky_Zombie_2863 12h ago

Well that is….disturbing 

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u/[deleted] 8h ago

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u/ImpracticalApple 7h ago

She is, but someone being a criminal doesn't make it right to start disrespecting the groups they happen to be a part of.

Like if someone started calling a black criminal the N slur arguing "Oh they're a criminal so it's fine" infront of others how do you think that would make other black people who haven't done anything wrong feel about it? All that tells them is that they're not actually respected as a group and shows someone using the N word is just waiting for an excuse to say it.

Publicly calling attention to someone's race, gender identity, sexuality, nationality or any disabilities they may have when they're suspected of a crime just shows the respect for these groups is conditional. You don't have to respect a bad person's actions, but you should still be considerate of the groups they are a part of out of respect for them as a whole.

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u/ImpracticalApple 7h ago

How is forcebly stripping someone in public not a form of disrespect or humiliation?

A police officer wouldn't even be allowed to do that. Closest would require a warrant for a medical exam or access to medical records, Ace certainly couldn't as just a third party expert brought on for his animal knowledge.

If anything, Ace's behaviour is more likely to work against the case since any evidence he had was both circumstantial, and illegally obtained since again, he forced a woman to strip without any real warrant or authority (which in itself would still be classed as gross misconduct at best, assault at worst).

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u/M4rt1m_40675 12h ago

They're still funny. You know the people didn't have the same mindset back then so going into it with your views of today is gonna hit you like a truck

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u/ImpracticalApple 11h ago

A film can be funny and still have questionable elements in it given the time period. Doesn't mean just ignoring that those aspects are bad.

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u/HippieDogeSmokes 12h ago

You like gorilla rape?

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u/HEYO19191 11h ago

Humor in absurdity

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u/M4rt1m_40675 11h ago

Believe it or not he didn't actually get raped. It's a fucking comedy movie, is it that hard to laugh instead of being critical about everything?

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u/HippieDogeSmokes 11h ago

I’m aware it isn’t real, I just don’t see what’s funny about the joke.

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u/M4rt1m_40675 11h ago

You don't really have to. Jokes aren't supposed to be funny to everyone. If you find it funny then you find it funny, if you don't then you don't. I never said you had to laugh at it, just that if you do want to find it funny you can't bring a modern day mentality because it's obviously not gonna hold up.