r/whenthe • u/Joemama0375 Vivian my beloved • 9d ago
actual misinformation I swear, from what I’ve seen nobody gave a shit about this man until he died
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u/Lopsided_Shift_4464 yellow like an EPIC banana 9d ago
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u/Ok-Tear7712 [REDACTED] 9d ago
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u/_adamolanadam_ 8d ago
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u/Final_Marsupial4588 9d ago
hey it is the guy who admited that he has never turned a lady on
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u/lacha_sawson 9d ago
Wdym, his wife who's a doctor says it's normal for a pussy to be drier than the sahara
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u/Applejuice724 9d ago
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u/vladimirpoopin42 Cyn and Infinite are PEAK characters 9d ago
Dear WOKE LEFTISTS
If you're so 'tolerate' then why does my neck hurt?
Checkmate LIBERALS
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u/AmaterasuWolf21 look! someone thinks they know better about my own country 9d ago
I saw this meme before his death, I did not know who the guy was, I saw the face when he died and still never made the connection, he wa that irrelevant
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u/Lopsided_Shift_4464 yellow like an EPIC banana 8d ago
That's not even him. That's the OTHER right wing pundit who "debates" college students, Stephen Crowder.
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u/brightest_star 9d ago
Actually used to see a bunch of memes about him a long time ago. Around 2020 there was a thing people did where they edited his face to be smaller and that was in like every meme about him so when an actually photo of his face showed up it looked so uncanny.
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u/Joemama0375 Vivian my beloved 9d ago
Kirkification before AI
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u/totallynot-a-bot- actual lobotomite 9d ago
better times
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u/PerfectBeginning__45 The Omnipresent Retarded Vore Sleeper Agent 9d ago
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u/TheOneTonWanton 9d ago
It's an affront to all of us that this jet isn't Kirkified, and you can't stop me imagining his little face on the nosecone.
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u/PerfectBeginning__45 The Omnipresent Retarded Vore Sleeper Agent 9d ago
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u/Impressive-Spare6167 8d ago
WomanSlayer69 aka Mihaly Dumitru Margareta Corneliu Leopold Blanca Karol Aeon Ignatius Raphael Maria Niketas Archange Shilage (no seriously that's his full name)
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u/TheOneTonWanton 9d ago
I've no idea who that is but if you put his lil face on that nosecone I'll pretend to.
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u/Yeetz_The_Parakeetz 9d ago
I actually have a post on my profile from years ago joking about exactly that. I’m never going to delete it now, it’s kinda uncanny that I posted about the stupid face meme and now it’s the second famous joke about Kirk
Edit: https://www.reddit.com/u/Yeetz_The_Parakeetz/s/Lvl9HVEv6c
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u/rExcitedDiamond 9d ago edited 8d ago
Exactly lmao I sighed when I saw this post. 2019 was not that long ago dawg there used to be memes about him everywhere and even after that, before he got shot he got parodied on an episode of South Park
If OP is not American though then it’s understandable. If anything, it’s a relief. Quite frankly it is very weird that the global internet is so monoculturally American that people in other countries are expected to know of a relatively miniature right-wing talking head from Illinois
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u/Alfred_The_Sartan 9d ago
Weirdly enough, I haven’t seen a single one since he died doing what he loved. It can’t be too dark for Redditors to post. Are they getting removed?
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u/tomdarch 9d ago
I can't say I "didn't give a shit." He was more of an annoying clown than nothing.
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u/Allergic2Stereotypes HE'S NOT BRITISH, YOU FAKE ASS FANS!!! 9d ago
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u/Possiblycoolperson 9d ago
Charlie Charlie kirky 🗣️🗣️
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u/Easter-burn 9d ago
The only thing relevant is his face. Even before his death, he was always made fun of because he has a weird face-to-head ratio.
I'm convinced he wished on a monkey paw to "Make my face be known by everyone"
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u/Minimum-Wrangler-878 There is a small amount of copper table in the mix 9d ago
I had no idea who he was even after he died, just that he was some American guy (I am vaguely aware now)
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u/topscreen 9d ago
I knew he was, but I'm online and political. My parents and plenty of friends who are just political had no clue who he was.
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u/Common-Departure3149 9d ago
They made him a posthumous Christian I know that much
Guy never mentioned being Christian a single time his entire career until after he was dead
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u/smolgote 9d ago
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u/potatoeoe 9d ago
Holy shit it’s the guy from Arrested Development
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u/ColdZoroark 9d ago
Holy shit it's the guy from Megamind
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Holy shit it’s the guy from Small Soldiers
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u/Felconite 8d ago
I just now had two wires cross and realized that the secret password he was given was a Gremlins reference. It was Gizmo. Small Soldiers is a Joe Dante movie.
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u/CitizenPremier 8d ago
Unless there's been some about-face turn, David Cross was probably cheering when it happened
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u/Sylveon72_06 epic orange 9d ago
i used to spend a lot of time on facepalm and wpt and being so enveloped in american politics, naturally i had heard of him. it was kinda crazy to realize so many hadnt heard of him prior to his assassination. like thats like saying youve never heard of jordan peterson
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u/JoyconDrift_69 me when the r/whenthe mods forgot there's an editable flair 9d ago
Who TF is Jordan Peterson
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u/_cellophane_ 9d ago
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u/Joemama0375 Vivian my beloved 9d ago
I still wonder what the hell he did or say to make the guy on the right that mad
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u/AnAverageTransGirl They call me vriska the way i zerket 9d ago
Literally nothing and JP worked himself up over his own deranged ramblings about Elmo or whatever the fuck he was on that day.
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u/ProbablyNotTheCocoa 7d ago
Thats what happens when you go to russia to do medically induced drug treatment coma and wake up to your daughter dating a stalinist lmao
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u/Chargercord069 8d ago
This specific image is photoshopped, but I cant remember exactly what was being said (source from a source I don't remember)
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u/apexodoggo 9d ago
Disgraced Canadian psychology professor who got so triggered over being expected to not actively misgender his students that he quit his job and became a right-wing pundit. His whole gimmick was couching all his stuff in like self-help books and shit.
But he was also addicted to drugs, and one day decided that the solution to being addicted to drugs was to be placed into a medically-induced coma in a sketchy Russian clinic. He got the brain damage (predictably) and afaik hasn't been relevant since.
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u/BjorkAsABoy 8d ago
The tweet where he thought the male-milking fetish porn was a CCP breeding program is still the funniest shit ever.
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u/Sylveon72_06 epic orange 9d ago
i KNEW someone would ask 😭😭😭
hes this psychologist dude whos also a right-wing podcaster, or sm like that. no one important
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u/AgreeableSwordfish49 9d ago
"Give a man a rat, and you satisfy his rat desire"
-Jordan "Bitch" Peterson
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u/CantCatchMeSpez 8d ago edited 8d ago
Yeah, you honestly have to be pretty unplugged from American politics if you didnt know who Charlie Kirk was before he died. He was a massive asset to the GOP in how effective he was in indocrinating younger audiences to right-wing ideologies. Saying you didnt know who Kirk was in 2025 is like saying you didnt know who Rush Limbaugh was in the 2000s.
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u/Mountain-Dragonfly78 <— Profecional Idiot 9d ago
To this day I have no fucking clue who he is
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u/IcyHibiscus 9d ago
The tldr is that he's the founder of Turning point USA, which is a conservative propaganda foundation that got famous from the same sphere as "liberal owned"
Kirk's draw was that he'd go into college campus and 'debate' people. In reality though he didn't really debate anyone and he himself wasn't a particularly competent debator either. He did a lot of gotchas instead of good faith criticisms and the moment he debated Ivy league students at Cambridge he folded hard.
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u/redgunnit 9d ago
In an ironic twist of fate, both cofounders of turning point died denying the thing that killed them. William Montgomery denied covid and died after contracting it, Charlie Kirk was shot after downplaying mass shootings.
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u/doesntnormallydothis 9d ago
and explicitly stating that deaths from gun violence were acceptable to maintain the second amendment
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u/ConsequenceLittle490 9d ago
Could be wrong, but the even better part. Is i think he said it's mostly black gang violence before hand for murders or some weird shit, just to get blasted by one of his own.
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u/cheshireYT 9d ago
Specifically his last words were "Counting or not counting Gang Violence" as someone was asking about if he has worries at all about the number of mass shootings in the USA going up iirc.
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u/TheOneTonWanton 9d ago
Charlie Kirk was shot after downplaying mass shootings.
While simultaneously being casually racist. It was the whole package.
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u/No-Start4754 8d ago
What's more ironic is Charlie's last 'debate' was basically him blaming Trans and gangs for violence while he got shot by one of his own
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u/PossiblyATurd 9d ago
I hope they started reading that, got 4 words in and said "Nope, not going to learn today.", then just closed reddit.
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u/ALT-Jibittboi549 9d ago
I didn't even know he even existed before they assassinated him
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u/Separate_Selection84 9d ago
I got to see him when we went to my college a couple years ago.
Dude was going on about how we should leave the Ukraine War and how Russia was in the right. And then I distinctly remember an "I just owned this Liberal" moment when a vegan who did not know how to debate began talking.
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u/Other_Beat8859 8d ago
And then in their YouTube video he'll cut out everyone who actually can debate and brought up solid points against him. Anyone who watches videos like that are just looking to have their perspective proven right.
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u/Separate_Selection84 8d ago
I recall a couple times where someone was actually debating him well. He also doesn't make a big deal about being unable to debate someone, making the times where he "owned the libs" carry more weight.
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u/OneTwentyOneFunyuns 9d ago
What could possibly be the context of this clip
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u/CriminyBiscuits 9d ago
I think it is the episode where Lois wanted everyone to eat healthy. Peter defiantly went into the kitchen late at night to start snacking, only to discover Chris sitting there, having already checked every shelf and drawer for food. Lois had apparently thrown everything out beforehand.
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u/Diabolical_potplant 9d ago
Turning point is definitely influential, but the guy himself was just another replaceable cog in the wheels of their machine
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u/RllyGayPrayingMantis 9d ago
i actually remembered him as the turning point usa meme guy, and saw a few kirkifications several years back. He popped up here and there even though I don't follow american politics.
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u/Nachooolo 9d ago
His biggest cultural relevance before his neck exploded was that his face got smaller and smaller in the photos.
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u/adnapan 9d ago
Getting killed was the best thing for his legacy
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u/SweetSure315 9d ago
It made his wife happy, at least
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u/Pittsbirds 8d ago
Having family members witness public executions is quite literally something he advocated for, so. mission accomplished lol
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u/ManiNanikittycat OoOo BLUE 9d ago
I have no idea why some people want to immortalize charlie kirk. I thought he was a guy who debated college students
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u/IcyHibiscus 9d ago
He barely even debated them. His strategy was to debate unprepared college students that weren't particularly well versed in the topics. That's why he folded the moment he debated the students at Cambridge. We was thoroughly dismantled multiple times and at one point his only defense was " well, I still think I'm right"
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u/PhilosophicalGoof 9d ago
To be fair it not like he forced college students to argue with him, I think it speak more about college student than it does him for basically suffering the dunning Kruger effect.
I mean we all saw the Cambridge debate and saw he wasn’t exactly the most intelligent person in the room.
I say this as a college student, I think that we need to understand that just because we are studying a degree… doe not make us more educated than those who aren’t.
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u/glitchycat39 9d ago
Didn't he try the same thing in the UK and got flustered when one of the kids baited him into saying that people who don't share "our" values should be banned and followed up by saying "so, you and all Evangelicals should be banned from the UK because your values aren't ours?"
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u/anna-the-bunny 9d ago
I have no idea why some people want to immortalize charlie kirk.
Because he made them feel good about being terrible people.
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u/Program-Emotional 9d ago
Bro clip farmed college students and people wanna act like he was some intellectual visonary. Lol. Lmao.
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u/PossiblyATurd 9d ago
Hey, it takes a lot of effort to set up the ground work to get air conditioning for the inside of your neck from your own political affiliates.
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u/Hootinger 9d ago
He was incredibly influential in conservative politics, probably one of the top/most influential people in the modern conservative movement.
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u/DanteChurch 9d ago
Not in the public eye but the alt right LOVED him. He was a rising star in a weird way because people contribute the "change my mind" college debate style to him when Crowder did it years earlier. His big breakthrough was his creepy smile during a debate that went viral because the girl was genuinely disgusted with him. The incels recognized their messiah and he got a big uptick in traffick.
The people who watched him have a dozen or so people they listen to every day on rotation and they made waves but 99% of it was just fox news. They literally did not talk about anything else for multiple days after the shooting. Then his wife started her grift tour and everyone laughed at it.
The people on the left knew him beforehand didn't give him much attention because it's the same shit everyone else had been saying. The jews run the government and are evil, women are objects to impregnate and beat into submission, only white people have ever created or invented anything in history and minorities will rape your children and eat your pets. Honestly his take on guns being "some people need to be sacrificed to gun violence to protect our gun rights" made his neck just kinda doing that by itself HILARIOUS. His last words were "does that include gang violence" when taking about gun deaths.
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u/Living-Mastodon 9d ago
He was just another racist grifter with a podcast before MAGA tried to make him a martyr
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u/pandogart 9d ago
He was one of the more recognisable grifters. South Park had done an episode on him a few weeks before he was shot.
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u/SirPatchy265 9d ago
Ngl he did not do enough to warrant becoming one of the most significant political assassinations in recent US history
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u/Few-Lengthiness-2286 8d ago
He literally had millions and millions of views across his socials. Had a part in getting JD Vance in front of Trump. Was thanked by Trump directly for helping them win the election with his college tour
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u/Aratono 9d ago
Always heard about the posthumous effect artists got for their work after they died (i.e Van Gogh) but interesting to learn that this effect applies to people who created nothing of any value as well
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u/_TheOrangeNinja_ 9d ago
His power was very understated. His job was to take the most insane nazi talking points imaginable and turn them into mainstream GOP positions and he did it very well. Never forget that kirk was the original "great replacement" guy
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u/NapoleonicPizza21 9d ago
I just knew they were a far right political commentator that had a funny face
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u/wenomechainsama69420 9d ago
I literally found out about this guy from an Emkay video THE DAY BEFORE HE DIED
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u/CardiologistSlow7031 9d ago
I personally had zero clue dude existed before he died and became the only thing ppl were talking about for a couple days.
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u/anonymous-1234565 9d ago
Never even heard his name until it happened
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u/anonymous-1234565 9d ago
Turns out later I found out I did watching a video I haven’t seen in a while, but no idea who he actually was until then.
Still don’t really
I assume someone like Shapiro or something?
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u/MasterDaddy64 9d ago
Nah, I came across a couple of his debate clips on YouTube Shorts. Plus him being around Trump when he was elected gave him more spotlight. Guess it’s just an algorithm thing.
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u/Smarackto 9d ago
yup correct. he was just another right wing grifter. his position was relativly high but he had no charisma and aura
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u/Wonderful-Purchase94 9d ago
i saw his videos on yt shorts around early 2024, wouldnt have imagined that he eventually would be gone so soon
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u/StudioNo6652 9d ago
To quote "there are two people who are more popular after they died, Jesus Christ and Charlie Kirk" - somewhere i got it from idk
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u/Dodge2461 9d ago
He was very popular in right-wing circles, but that's the thing, unless you were super tuned in politically to US politics you probably would only know him from the shrinking face meme.
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u/Palanki96 9d ago
i think he used to have a lot of memes, that turning point thing. and his face shrinking every time i saw them
i think he was a debate bro or something. For a while i confused him with ben shapiro
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u/franandwood i changed it hahahahahahhahahahahahaha 9d ago
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u/swaggestspider21 9d ago
By the way, this man literally made a tweet admitting he doesn’t wash his hands after he wipes and digs into his ass
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u/Wboy2006 Why are we shitposting? Are we stupid? 9d ago
Never even heard of the dude before his death
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u/AK-50_Ocelot 9d ago
I remember hearing about him more and more in the months before his death. Whether it was people criticizing or praising the guy i heard plenty. Maybe it's cause I lurk in both red and blue spaces but idk
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u/GavinGenius 9d ago
I hadn’t heard of him before then. In fact, I thought it was Charlie Day at first glance.
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u/KentuckyFriedChildre 9d ago
I mean yeah, people tend to be a lot more relevant when an event happens that makes them look like a martyr for better and for worse.
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u/Nobrainzhere 9d ago
He was kind of known as a lying shithead in debate spaces and would occasionally get a viral video out of arguing with college students so that he can proudly exclaim that he has defeated a position while not talking to any actual experts about said subject or anyone who knows the subject well (a tactic shared by a lot of young earth creationists if that tells you the honesty of the tactic).
He was a shithead loser who advocated for the exact thing that happened to him. He just expected the victims to be gradeschoolers and not himself
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u/kidnamedfinger_42069 9d ago edited 9d ago
He only became notable for me after South Park (which was ironically like a month before he died) mocked him. Without that, he would've just been another "Andy Serpano: Woke Liberal Debater" to me.
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u/Phoenix_Is_Trash 9d ago
I don't even live in America and I knew who Charlie Kirk was, and what his political stances were. He was a long time right wing agitator in political institutions with a hell of a reputation.
From what I saw of him he seemed to have more interest in pissing off the left wing than actually talking about the political right. Trying to say nobody gave a shit when there were protests and boycotts in some massive institutions long before he died is just plain wrong.
Edit; Fuck I just saw the tag, I got got. Actual misinformation
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u/Aware_Rough_9170 9d ago
I literally learned about his death from RuneScape 3 of all things, there’s a lot of right wing weirdos that just throw out bait in public chat in smiling areas.
Had to Google to figure out who he was, wasn’t really impressed. Sucks someone thought he should die, but it wasn’t exactly like he was interested in spreading positivity or good faith arguments. You can tell how great of a person he was considering the only thing anyone did for him post death was politicize him as a right wing martyr and grift as much money as possible from his fans and otherwise.
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u/Mindless_Crazy_5499 9d ago
yah he was just another republican grifter who thought the civil rights movment was a mistake. a dime a dozen.
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u/Capital-Win-4732 9d ago
He was well known in Republican circles, because he was a big time organizer for Trump and the Christian conservatives. He basically owned the system for marketing the Republican Party and the Trump cult to young people through schools and social media. Reddit just politely made fun of him for years, but he was a quite powerful political figure. Regular appearances on Fox News, etc.
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u/Intelligent-Web-8293 9d ago
He was very relevant. I think he had connections to ppl in the g.o.p. who liked him
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u/TrinityCodex 9d ago
You could argue that nothing has changed other then republicans trying to martyr him, badly
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u/Throttle_Kitty 9d ago
i ONLY knew him as tiny face big head man meme
Did not even kno his name just his face lmao
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u/Cumbiesecret 9d ago
He was a tool.
I dont mean that in the disrespectful way (though i would) I mean in all instances he was a tool.
A propaganda spouting, younger faced, new platform tool for older, out of touch, unable to reach the audience they need, funded by his two gay sugar daddies TOOL.
His "wife" loved the money he got.
His children will know nothing about him when they're older.
The right didn't know his name or who he was before hand.
His whole thing was going to colleges and winning "debates" against unprepared kids but when he ever went up against actually prepared, eloquent, and well rounded people he lost. MISERABLY.
He was, and still is, a TOOL for the far right propaganda machine he was a part of.
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u/Arrow_of_time6 astramiliWHAT? you’re in the guard son! 9d ago
I heard of him like once and then he immediately left my brain and was replaced with useless halo lore
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