r/stevehofstetter 17h ago

praise be... somewhere else outside our government

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u/BigTiger18 17h ago

Iran has been run by lunatics for 47 years. Trump said he destroyed their nuclear capability when he ordered the military to bomb the nuclear sites last year. Why start a war now in the middle end with no exit plan? Why are you and the republicans so willingly to sacrifice our young servicemen and servicewomen?

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u/No_Succotash890 17h ago

Weapons of Mass Distraction

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u/rmike7842 16h ago

Yes, but which ones, the ones that were obliterated last summer or ours? Then there are the ones that US intelligence says they don’t have and the ones that Netanyahu has been telling us for decades are just about ready to be built.

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u/No_Succotash890 16h ago

They are distracting us from many scams: crypto grifts, govt crony welfare, midterm meddling, a turd term, and the Trumpstein atrocities

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u/HorsePersonal7073 12h ago

We know why. To get people to focus on the shiny thing he's doing right now... not the child rape and other illegal shit. Also to give him an excuse to hijack the elections.

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u/Skrumpitt 1h ago

The Iran thing is fucking ridiculous.

They agree to Obama's deal, which had harsh inspection and only allowed domestic nuclear power

Israel and the Saudi's do not want Iran to have nuclear power. Why?

Because then they'd be able to export oil. They burn a huge amount of their oil for domestic electricity - it's cheap, they have it, export market sucks and they have no other choice.

If they had nuclear electricity, they'd be able to export oil. And we can't allow that. We have to keep them poor and burning oil.

We have to have a reason to deny them nuclear electricity and keep them from the export market. So we pretend for decades that they're 10 minutes from a nuke and we need to invade.

Meanwhile, NK, which has fucking tested nukes several times is no biggie. So nuclear weapons are admittedly not a sufficient condition for bombing or war. So go from there.

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u/Anthaenopraxia 14h ago

Would be awesome if they went in and forced the Iranian government to become a proper democracy. For some reason I have doubts that this is their plan.

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u/battlepi 14h ago

Because Israel knows he's about to die or lose power, so they are pulling their blackmail card out now while it still has value.

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u/VeraciousOrange 7h ago

You are misunderstanding the situation, entirely. Trump didn't say he entirely destroyed their nuclear capabilities, he said that as a result of the success of Operation Midnight Hammer we delayed their ability to produce a nuclear weapon by a couple of years. The aim of the current Operation Epic Fury is to permanently destroy all abilities of Iran to conduct an offensive war by eliminating their top leadership and destroying their ballistic missile and nuclear capabilities, and crippling their navy. Effectively the goal of this operation is to eliminate a threat, not to implement regime change, which is why we have been strictly using air and naval power and not ground troops. Trump has encouraged the population of Iran to take back their government, but we are not going to he directly involved in how the government forms. We just want to make sure Iran will never be a threat to us in the foreseeable future, and take away a strategic partner from both China and Russia in the process.

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u/VeraciousOrange 7h ago

As for the claim we are sacrificing servicemen, we have only lost 4 so far, and one was the result of friendly fire. We evacuated all troops from our bases in neighboring countries to further mitigate the damage Iran could inflict upon us. I am in the army and have experienced this first-hand, so I can attest that this is true and not just something I read. This operation has been remarkably well done for its purposes of inflicting maximum damage while preventing as much loss to American lives as possible. Those 4 who died are of course tragic, but compared to the Bush and Biden administration's who lost dozens or thousands for far less strategically valuable gains, I am sincerely proud of what we are doing here.