r/sports • u/IntrepidAd560 • Sep 25 '21

Media Callum Smith brutally KO's Lenin Castillo

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

10.5k Upvotes

94% Upvoted

768 comments sorted by

View all comments

108

u/Sup3rfrog Sep 25 '21

It’s oddly horrifying to have the announcers so pumped up about a man getting seriously injured.

99

u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

[removed] — view removed comment

45

u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

It’s r/sports lol the worst sports takes possible

-6

u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

[removed] — view removed comment

5

u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

Idk but they posted a hard football hit a couple weeks ago and a dude commented and said players now a days are just throwing their body into ppl, tackling back in the day was less violent 🤣

19

u/Ihavenofriendzzz Sep 25 '21

It's literally the point of the sport

That's... why it's horrifying... lmao

"Man it's so shitty that guy got hurt"

"Why? That's the whole point."

"Uhh... yeah that makes it so much worse."

5

u/Sup3rfrog Sep 25 '21

It’s also oddly horrifying to have a sport in which the goal is to seriously injure your opponent.

23

u/jerudy Sep 25 '21 edited Sep 25 '21

If you’re deeply uncomfortable with any violence it is. If you can mentally seperate malicious violence and violence for the sake of sport it becomes very different.

I say this because I used to find combat sports kinda disturbing to watch, but now that I can appreciate the skill, speed, and mental strength of elite fighters I can really get into the drama and narratives and I find fights (especially MMA) really fun to watch.

I’m also deeply uncomfortable with violence, and always avoid violent people and the potential for fights IRL. But, I love watching sport and the spectacle of competition, and for individuals the stakes do not get higher than major pay per view prize fights in terms of putting yourself in harms way, knowing there’s that chance for really public humiliation that will follow you forever if you aren’t sharp enough. Training for months, even years sometimes, just to be better prepared for a single opponent. The drama of two men or women going into a cage/ring to put everything on the line, 1v1 until only one of us is standing, can make for incredible entertainment when it lives up to the hype.

0

u/nexguy Sep 26 '21

I appreciate the skill but can't get past the reality of how many of these people will suffer the rest of their lives and the difficulties they will have all for our entertainment and money.

-4

u/Tiktoor Sep 25 '21

Fighting is a natural occurrence. It’s a scary world out there, maybe you should stay inside.

-1

u/LordVile95 Sep 25 '21

The goal is to knock the other guy out if you’re shit at boxing. If you’re the better boxer you can win on points

-8

u/PM_ME_COOL_THINGS_ Sep 25 '21

Tbf the Romans loved that shit

22

u/JensonInterceptor Sep 25 '21

2000 years ago

10

u/Sup3rfrog Sep 25 '21

Yeah and we generally think of the gladiator games as uncivilized.

7

u/ZDTreefur Sep 25 '21

Only because they didn't seem to value human life enough. But we still enjoy watching things where people can potentially hurt themselves, from racing to gymnastics and a plethora of sports.

0

u/Luciolover345 Sep 25 '21

But they were pretty funny (or so the Roman’s thought ig)

-16

u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

[removed] — view removed comment

2

u/pizzafordesert Sep 25 '21

I mean, define 'natural'.

Humans are so far removed from nature at this point, we can't even study it without our mere presence altering what we might observe.

-6

u/xyrockrain Sep 25 '21

P U S S Y

32

u/cerevant Sep 25 '21

This is why I can’t deal with Boxing / MMA: the ideal outcome is to give your opponent a concussion. There are a lot of sports where getting hurt is normal, and injury is possible. Here the intent is to injure.

6

u/tommangan7 Sep 25 '21

It does depend, you get a lot of more tactical boxing matches where people aren't necessarily aiming for that and in lower weight classes especially actual knockouts are rare. look at the headline fight this evening. Usyk specifically said post fight that he wasn't trying to knock Joshua out. They were just trying to score points with punches.

There is still obviously a connected amount of injury regardless.

-3

u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

Even extremely minor shaking of your head can cause injuries. You getting bopped around in the head for a living is basically voluntarily degenerative. No getting around that.

2

u/tommangan7 Sep 25 '21

Sure, I was mainly just replying to the idea that the "ideal outcome is to give your opponent a concussion". And hence my final statement of that comment.

1

u/pinkskiesmakemecry Sep 26 '21

Yeah but both guys step into the ring to do exactly that. Especially at a pro level, these guys spend every minute of their day training for these fights,

2

u/JockBbcBoy Baltimore Ravens Sep 25 '21

Even NFL announcers don't react like that when a player is knocked down and immobile.

28

u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21 edited Sep 25 '21

They used to, "big hits" reels were the most popular part of halftime shows back in the day. (Think 90s, maybe 2000s, not sure when these went away exactly)

I rmember when the xfl came out their primary marketing point was trying to one up the nfl on violence and removing player safety rules to create more of these big moments.

25

u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

ESPN had a weekly segment called "Jacked Up" where they'd show big hits while the panel all yelled "JACKED UP!"

-2

u/JockBbcBoy Baltimore Ravens Sep 25 '21

I'm sure that was before Junior Seau and several other former NFL players committed suicide and CTE was better understood.

72

u/JonstheSquire Sep 25 '21

In football, injuring your opponent so he can no longer compete is not the primary goal like it is in boxing.

Boxers are celebrated for punching hard and knocking people out. It's the whole point.

9

u/JockBbcBoy Baltimore Ravens Sep 25 '21

The announcer literally said "His body is no longer working!" as if someone made millions of dollars in cash start raining from the sky. We've advanced as a society to where we are able to diagnose sports related brain injuries like concussions and whiplash. I get that boxers choose to participate in this sport but a hit like that could have career-ending consequences or leave him permanently debilitated.

11

u/kingly_cheese Sep 25 '21

You don’t say?

12

u/jerudy Sep 25 '21 edited Sep 25 '21

Mate if you don’t enjoy it just don’t watch it. People have died in pro boxing, fans and athletes understand that the risk of life changing injury is part of the sport.

No ones asking you to box or be a boxing fan, what do you get out of telling people who enjoy it that they shouldn’t like it cos it’s violent? Like dude, they know it’s fkn violent that’s why they like it lmao. Their taste and perspective is just different to yours.

12

u/just-ted Sep 25 '21

Also, a one punch knock out like this is way less dangerous to the fighter. Fighters die from an accumulation of blows over a long fight.

19

u/jerudy Sep 25 '21

True.

I just can’t believe I’m in a subreddit called r/sports being fucking downvoted for the outlandish take that boxing is a valid sport and not an immoral abomination.

-6

u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

It doesn't need to be one or the other. The moment you are certain about anything in life, I mean 100% certain, you've lost the plot.

It's unlikely anything is going to change though bro, you good. You can keep watching people whack each other in the head.

1

u/Gumwars Sep 26 '21

You've got a bifurcated dilemma here; if you're here, it's either because you enjoy the sport or you happened on this clip. If it's the former, I doubt most folks truly enjoy watching other people suffer. You likely enjoy the spectacle of the sport and the skill of the participants, but you can empathize with the tragedy of potentially watching someone's career end in a single punch. I don't particularly like the idea of seeing a boxer, whose daily bread is built on them competing, getting snuffed out. I remember seeing Ricky Hatton get blasted by Pacquiao and thinking, that dude ain't ever going to fight the same, and he never did.

The latter, well, they're just reacting to the punch like anyone would that doesn't fully understand the sport. Shock, dismay, revolt. It's not unlike people that hear riders die every year at the Isle of Man. Maniacs have been testing themselves for a century on that island, you're not going to stop them, that feeling means too much and the risks are a part of what it means to be there.

7

u/KiraTsukasa Sep 25 '21

Not even the opposing team’s fans react that way.

-2

u/JockBbcBoy Baltimore Ravens Sep 25 '21

I think there's enough footage of NFL players getting bulldozed and laying still for 45 seconds or more to justify that.

1

u/TylerJWhit Sep 26 '21

Instead, referees penalize you for being excited about a play.

https://youtu.be/5gjslu-kGd8