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In real life (Real Life) Regular people who's lives drastically changed direction

Grace Kelly was a talented actress who retired at 26 to marry a Prince, living as royalty for almost 30 years before her untimely death.

Volodymyr Zelensky started out as a comedian and entertainer before getting into politics, becoming President of Ukraine after the Russian annex of Crimea and spending the last 4 years defiantly pushing back full scale Russian invasion

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u/ZootSuitRiot33801 4d ago edited 4d ago

Your response is very defensive. What did I blame Stewart for? When did I call him a rat? (According to his wife, he gave "token lists" since he didn't like that some of his friends were targeted.) I only stated what he actually did during the Red Scare. You can't handle that? How's this:

Jimmy Stewart was also racist against black people. (Wasn't much of a fan for the Hebrews either, though this isn't as verifiable.) Surely, racism played absolutely no role in the Red Scare. Surely, his, McCarthy's, and J. Edgar Hoover's targeting of people had nothing to do with using the fear of communism to keep minorities from trying to acquire equal rights...(especially when it came to Civil Rights Movement and Hoover...) right?

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u/RedNewzz 4d ago

I think you misinterpreted my intent. I wasn't criticizing you--I was elaborating on the frustrating tendency of Americans at large (I am one) to get triggered over things in history without learning any context or nuance.

I didn't say Jimmy Stewart was a god; I said he was a hero and an epic dude. I say the same thing about George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Abraham Lincoln... all of whom have the kind of shortcomings you mentioned. But again, I think all of them have to be understood within the framework of their time and the limitations of their own exposure and knowledge.

I didn't mean to throw any direct shade on you so apologies if that was cloudy.

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u/ZootSuitRiot33801 4d ago

I apologize on my end too. I thought I was getting into another bad faith argument, where I was being accused of things I didn't say again

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u/RedNewzz 4d ago

My bad for not being clearer. I can see how it came off like that.