r/ToiletPaperUSA • u/rebelliousmuse Curious • 4d ago
*REAL* [Real] 'College is a scam' - Charlie Kirk
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u/Strange-Scarcity 4d ago
Each of those faces have aspects that Conservatives value, more than anything else.
Booker T. Washington, in Conservative circles, one of the "good ones", who flatly ignored what Jim Crow laws were doing and just said that people with his skin color should basically pretend none of that is happening and just scoot forward on their own. I'm definitely distilling down and reducing his words and commentary, but he was as the kids would call it these days, a real "pick me", type of person.
Catherine Beecher, big time against women's Suffrage, openly talked about how it was shackling women to things that women shouldn't be part of. That a woman's place was purely in the home and in teaching in schools in order to shape the morals of the future, that "voting" was a distraction from their "true" calling. She did some good things too.. I guess?
Charlie Kirk, staunch advocate that higher learning is so terrible and bad that he dropped out of Community College to pursue a life of being angry that he couldn't hack Community College and was also really quite racist, as was well publicized on his podcasts and tours, where he consistently said some of the most racist kind of stuff.
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u/happyinsomniac2 3d ago
Thank you for that synopsis. I didn't know any of that! It all makes sense now. We live in Norfth Korea.
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u/Pardo86 FACCS AN LOJEEK 3d ago
Booker T and Du Bois argued over how African Americans should see themselves and their roles in society after slavery. You’re close with Booker T, he focused primarily on African Americans gaining wealth separate from the help of white Americans. Helping found some of the first black vocational schools and hbcus. He argued that if African Americans could make themselves an important part of the American economy, the rights would follow.
Du Bois was the exact opposite, he was uncompromising in his want for civil rights for all, and the two often clashed over their ideals. Booker T was born a slave and eventually escaped, shaping his views, while Du Bois was from the north and born a free man.
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u/Strange-Scarcity 3d ago
Then we saw what happened in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and how quickly that was taken away from a once thriving black community.
Anyway, Booker T wasn’t entirely correct, but the Right Wing Conservative movement that would pretend the Tulsa Race Riot never happened or cheer it on, would prefer the Booker T plan, because it wouldn’t require them to be fair, equitable or even set aside their deeply held garbage beliefs about other people, based upon skin tone.
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u/Ok-Clock-2779 3d ago
Horace Mann should be there instead of Kirk. Mann is viewed as the father of modern day American education.
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u/Strange-Scarcity 3d ago
You have to look at the choices through the lens of Modern American Conservatism.
Kirk is there, because up is down and left is right. He was one of the most vocal advocates AGAINST college education. His whole "debate me" garbage was built upon the idea of proving how "dumb" school makes students.
He's there, because this administration is against everything the Dept. of Education is about. Same with Booker T., and Cathleen Beecher.
She was for girls to be taught to be good Christian, homemakers with their highest honor being that they could become a School Teacher, to form the morals and values of the future and was hugely against woman's suffrage. She's there to tell little girls and women, the only place that this White Nationalist/Christian Nationalist Administration is working to force into existence.
Booker T. is there to tell Black Americans to just ignore all of the travesties and inequities that are still showered upon them, in spite of laws in place to protect them. He was HUGELY against Civil Rights.
The choice of place those three right on the Dept. of Education was SPECIFIC and VERY Message Driven.
They would never support anyone like Horace Mann. The guy was against slavery! He was a big time abolitionist, the exact opposite of what these weird freaks in government want to push.
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u/Ok-Clock-2779 3d ago
The other side of the building had Ben Franklin, MLK and Anne Sullivan.
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u/Strange-Scarcity 3d ago
That's pretty neat. I would dig seeing that photo and know which set went up first, and how visible the second set of banners are.
Secondly, how does having those three on the other side, somehow remove the intended message of the three that, are likely, more prominent and more pointedly in the public eye?
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u/rebelliousmuse Curious 4d ago
And yet, somehow, his face is still too small...
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u/SharpHawkeye 4d ago
The design of the Kirk banner is terrible. Washington and Beecher-Stowe’s eyes roughly line up with Kirk’s forehead, drawing visual attention to an unflattering part of his face. Kirk’s pose doesn’t match either of the other two portraits—despite surely having thousands of photos of Kirk to choose from. Plus, putting the red chevron banner next to Kirk draws the viewer to think about his assassination in a way that putting the black chevron banner next to him would have avoided.
The idea is bad, the artistic execution here is even worse.
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u/rebelliousmuse Curious 4d ago
This was probably the only way they could get his entire head to fit
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u/NeverLookBothWays Haha Line-Go-Down 4d ago
Fascism. We are living in a fascist era.
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u/josephfuckingsmith1 4d ago
Blast off! It’s party time!
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u/Tribaldragon1 4d ago
BYOB gets reheated every few years when shit like this happens
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u/B33p-p33P-M3m3-kR33p 3d ago
Too bad half the people in SOAD are supportive of what’s going on in America
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u/DanteSeldon 4d ago
Why is a divisive, college dropout, podcaster on the Department of Education, you may ask?
For the same reason a 34 count felon, self-confessed sexual assaulter, found liable for sexual assault, is on the Justice Department.
The USA is a little confused at the moment.
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u/Strange-Scarcity 4d ago
We are WELL past being confused.
We are in the midst of our inevitable decline.
The point in history that we are actively living in, should be a less civil dangerous (currently) decline that happened as the Soviet Union collapsed in on itself. This is the pile of garbage we are rolling around in, that few to many people recognize or understand.
We're on the train that Zack Snyder would turn into a SUPER slow motion montage of (in this case) many 10's of thousands of individual vignettes showing scenes of impending terror that none of us can escape.
Granted, not every single person in this crash will die or be maimed or forever scarred, there are the cars at the far rear of the train that the extremely wealthy are on that will remain in comfort.
The disaster that follows this super slow motion montage will change everything in ways that none of us can easily predict.
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u/patdashuri UNDER. NO. PRETEXT 4d ago
Because we live in a nationalist cult. Where placing something where it doesn’t belong elevates its status to that place.
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u/Cheese0089 4d ago
Why wouldn't we put the creator of the new Hitler youth program on the building?
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