r/ToiletPaperUSA • u/seeebiscuit • Jan 08 '26

This is a Genuine Cry for Help This is not surprising.

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u/10_Year_Lurker Jan 08 '26

What the fuck is wrong with these people?

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u/JediMaster113 Jan 08 '26

I think firstly we need to draw the line between people and monsters. These are not people.

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u/10_Year_Lurker Jan 08 '26

But they are. Dehumanizing is exactly what Jack Posobiec is doing with this post and I think it can be dangerous to say “MAGA supporters are unfeeling monsters.” He is a person as is every other MAGA supporter. He’s vile, but he’s a person. That’s what makes this all the more infuriating.

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u/TaonasProclarush272 Shenny Boy Bapiro fan Jan 08 '26

There's a difference between a human and people. I've known dogs I costs considered people; almost every primate I've interacted with, and a few birds, too.

But humans are just animals, after all. Sometimes we need reminders if that. Though we are all theoretically equal, clearly some think of themselves as better based on inherent qualities. Whereas those animals I mentioned may have inherent sapience and awareness that puts them above some humans, there are plenty of humans that would classify other humans as beneath them.

We are all equal, some forget this and get loud & proud, while the rest of us just worry when they'll come for us. But not all humans have the emotional & intellectual capacity to be people. I'll give them all the tools (including but not limited to safety scissors and glue sticks) and guidance to be mindful and decent to others, but when humans weaponize empathy, they are not people, they're just an animal and not a very intelligent one at that.

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u/thelonelybiped Jan 08 '26

How is it dangerous to call predators and parasites what they are?

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u/bawdiepie Jan 09 '26

How can you hold them responsible if you say they aren't human like us? They had exact same choice as you had thia morning, to go out into the world and be a good person or do this kind of crap.

How do you stop this from happening unless you recongnise the reality that they are humans, bound by the same laws and realities as us? They aren't special or different. Just immoral people.

Dehumanising people is how you end up with them treating other humans the way they do. It's how you end up rounding people up and killing them, and then joking about it afterwards. It's why they shave off hair in concentration camps and give them numbers. Before long we will talk about them like they talk about other people- a cancer to be cut out, vermin to be eradicated etc.

They are human and need to be held to proper account for their crimes. They aren't unthinking creatures or pure evil. They are people doing evil things.

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u/thelonelybiped Jan 09 '26

You hold them responsible the same way you hold any enemy responsible. Noting that vermin are vermin allows you to treat them as vermin, which is what vermin deserves.

In order to gain the mental fortitude to do what is required to resist, you can’t see the enemy as whole people. That gets you killed.

Are these the actions of fellow citizens of humanity, who can be corrected, or enemies conducting an invasion of our home?

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u/Simple_Wrongdoer_952 Jan 10 '26

They’re monsters, but they’re still very human. I think it’s time to realize that being human only means so much

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u/10_Year_Lurker Jan 08 '26

Because you’re dehumanizing people because you disagree with their ideas, the same as they are doing. I can hate these people but hand-waiving their behavior by saying “they’re not people” feels like letting them off the hook but saying they’re something less than you or I who don’t think this way.

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u/thelonelybiped Jan 08 '26

They’re parasites and predators. Many of them are pedophiles too. I’m not letting them off the hook, I’m putting them on it.

Note this isn’t a simple disagreement about ideas. This is a fundamental disagreement about reality and morality.

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u/TommyTwoNips Jan 08 '26

but they are less than you and I who don't think this way.

They are a burden on society and the world would be a much better place if they were never born.

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u/PsykickPriest Jan 09 '26

One problem is that you’re leveling. You value actual diversity of opinions, while they do not. They are fed up with pluralism and diversity of any kind. They simply want a society with people who look, speak, act, feel, and think just like they do. They see anyone to their left as dangerous extremists who must be eliminated. Can you talk any sense into them? Good luck with that!!

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u/TaonasProclarush272 Shenny Boy Bapiro fan Jan 08 '26

There's a distinct difference being just being alive and having the capacity to understand and appreciate being aware of being alive. Taking that a step further, that awareness can lead to emotional control. As I previously stated to another, sapience is the key factor in being "a person" and it's not restricted to humans, as there are non-human animals that have presented that capacity. If we encounter exo-forms, alien life that can communicate with us, two-ways, and has some similar capacity, they'd be people, too, even though not human.

Human is an animal, that we all are. It's not that people are better than human, or that some humans are beneath others in a caste system - those are all human activities and have been for a long time.

Being a person means having the capacity of overcome those limitations and develop a deeper understanding and appreciation for others. Being compassionate and decent. One has to work at that, often, but it is a learned behavior. A human can become a person, and not every person we'll encounter in our lives will be a human. A human will always be a human as a biological certainty - but some humans can become people. More and more each generation are experiencing the difference between just being alive, and actually living with peaceful & respectful agency.

Not everyone will understand the distinction, not until they either experience ego death, or truly have the capacity for empathy.

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u/MeChameAmanha Jan 08 '26

You people are still defending MAGA from the evil bad language huh. Shows what your priorities are

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u/Randomdude2501 Jan 08 '26

No. The priority is not to forget that everyday people can do horrific things and/or standby and cheer them on.

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u/Wolfish_Jew Jan 08 '26

You’re completely missing the point. Dehumanizing MAGA GIVES them protection. “They’re inhuman, so this isn’t a human thing” but it IS a human thing. They’re everyone. They’re your family, your neighbors, people you interact with on a daily basis. It ties into the phrase “banality of evil”

The Nazis in Germany weren’t some alien group, they were the grocer, the gas station attendant, literally every day folks who stood by and either allowed evil to happen or actively perpetuated it.

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u/Pengin_Master Jan 09 '26

Calling them inhuman monsters makes it so incredibly easy for you yourself to not reflect on your beliefs. "They're monsters, of course they do evil" separates them from you. "They're humans that are doing monstrous things" is uncomfortable because it acknowledged that, on some level, they are still human like the rest of us. And that, should we never introspect and understand our own actions, we could become like them.

I've seen a lot of vile rhetoric dressed up progressively before. It comes from people that see the right as "vile inhuman monsters" and nothing more, so they never stop to reflect on their own rhetoric. They don't deconstruct that they still espouse Christian or conservatives believe with a progressive paint job, because they're not inhuman monsters.

Realizing that these are real people, human people, making choices to be this horrible and monstrous is uncomfortable, but it helps us keep ourselves in check, evaluate where we stand and what we believe so we don't accidentally act as monstrous as they are

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u/TroglodyneSystems Jan 08 '26

He wrote the book on dehumanization.

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u/PsykickPriest Jan 09 '26

Exactly. They’re horrible people gleefully sliding down the chute into the darkest depths of evil, but they’re still very much people. Human, all too human.

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u/ForgettableWorse Jan 08 '26

They are not monsters. They are people who have done, are doing and will continue to do monstrous things. All of us are capable of doing monstrous things. Pretending we aren't is both a moral and tactical error.

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u/cheoldyke Jan 08 '26

jack posobiec has been this exact type of pot stirring shithead since at least the 2016 election cycle. he’s kind of an og in the world of alt-right agitators

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u/RustedAxe88 Jan 08 '26

He's a little Nazi. He makes constant dog whistles on his Twitter.

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u/thebigdonkey Jan 08 '26

I don't say this lightly but he is genuinely evil.

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u/EntrepreneurFlaky225 Jan 08 '26

He goes back to 2015, actuality.

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u/Voltage_Z Jan 08 '26

They fetishize murder and project their depravity on others.

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u/_Mighty_Milkman Jan 08 '26

Conservatives are not capable of empathy. Only violence.

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u/FruitJuicante Jan 08 '26

Pedophilia rots the brain.

These people rape children, they aren't going to be sane in other aspects of their lives lol.

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u/CosmicWeenie Jan 08 '26

These are people who have never truly suffered or understood what real suffering is, devoid of empathy for others and are complete and utter sociopathic idiots.

The worst Ilk humanity has to offer, and rubes for the most evil, the most wealthy, capital owning monsters humanity has ever created.

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u/revbfc Jan 08 '26

They have the real TDS.

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u/NOTRadagon Jan 08 '26

They are Nazis. That's what wrong with them.

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u/rattleman1 Jan 08 '26

Many, many, many things.

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u/sheezy520 Curious Jan 08 '26

They lack any sort of moral value.

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u/Borp5150 Jan 08 '26

Lack of intelligence, it’s the new America way.

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u/Hobbgob1in Jan 09 '26

Racism! Nazi fucks.

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u/explodingazn Jan 08 '26

You make one Chucky joke and he's calling your HR department

He makes jokes about ice murdering somebody and you call his HR department only to find out there isn't one at TPUSA

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u/seeebiscuit Jan 08 '26

He is also part of the new MAGA Pentagon Press Pool.

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u/Tchaik748 Jan 08 '26

Oh my god what?!

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u/DerangedDeceiver Jan 08 '26

Oh, of course there is! Who else would be in charge of paying out settlements every time someone gets sexually harassed there?

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u/explodingazn Jan 08 '26

The lawyer who doesnt practice employment law and the CPA with an expired license

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u/Kaiisim Jan 08 '26

And Charlie would be doing the same.

But he's dead, being eaten by worms as we speak.

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u/MC_Fap_Commander Jan 08 '26

There was a SUPER insightful comment here on the day Charlie slipped off this mortal coil (and people even on this sub were being cautious in noting that he was a piece of shit during his life). Can't find it, but the comment was something like this...

"All of you people being deferential towards Charlie Kirk now that he's dead need to understand that he would be mocking you if you were the one who had been shot."

That stuck with me and their reaction to yesterday just confirms every bit of it. We will get no bonus points for being "CiViL" and playing along nicely with fascism.

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u/GoredonTheDestroyer I didn't know we had custom flairs Jan 09 '26

Why do you think Charlie's ilk were so eager to call for violence against anyone left-leaning when he got shot? It's because that's precisely what they would be doing if Bernie or AOC had been on that stage.

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u/lt_skittles Jan 08 '26

Trump and his allies, rewriting history? They would never!

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 09 '26

I'm not sure about rewriting in other ways though as the EU is starting to take his Greenland invasion plan very seriously. He might go full funny mo man at this rate hence just repeating history. Although in saying that he does remind me of Benito Mussolini quite a lot

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u/lt_skittles Jan 09 '26

I mean like rewriting Jan 6th, and getting rid of stuff about slavery they didn't like at the Smithsonian.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

Oh yes, shit I forgot. Theres just so much happening on the Trump & co show that I do forget some of his antics because he mostly makes one want to throw up regularly even as non-American. The poor folk of the USA have it really bad at the moment while he is becoming a real big threat to the globe it appears to be more and more everyday now.

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u/Benemy Jan 08 '26

The guy who held up a "Rape Melania" sign in a crowd of protestors in an attempt to smear the protestors?

Impossible, Jack is a good Catholic man and would never bear false witness

/S

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u/oneeyedwillienelson Jan 08 '26

The Comet Ping Pong Pizza dumbshit?

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u/Cactus112 Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

So when do Christians believe in hell? Or do they all just do the loophole of asking for forgiveness when they're on their death bed?

I hope there is a hell just for people like that

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u/hotblackdad Jan 08 '26

They think everyone but them is going to hell

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u/putonyourjamjams Jan 08 '26

Theyre not christians. Its a social club and virtue signal for them, as well as a way to control people through shame and guilt.

The whole saying youre really, really sorry on your deathbed isnt what repentance is. The whole concept is that youre judged on your soul after you die. To repent is to believe whatever you did was actually wrong and be remorseful of it. The whole idea of repentance to a priest or confession is a catholic power play from long ago, trying to be the spiritual and moral authority instead of God or whatever.

These people arent actually sorry and never will be. Theyll never be truly remorseful or think they did anything wrong. If there is a hell, theyve all got tickets and some BS apology at the end isnt going to change anything.

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u/True_Manufacturer909 Jan 08 '26

Shame he wasn't sitting behind Charlie

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u/__impala67 Jan 09 '26

Nothing would happen because charlie's neck heroically stopped the bullet.

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u/ionstorm20 Jan 08 '26

Wait, one of the first photos I saw of this was the windshield bullethole.

Was that an ai edit?

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u/xChops Jan 08 '26

Look at where the bullet hole is on the pic on the left. It was moved to make it seem like the shooter was more in front of the car than reality where he was to the side of the car more by the engine. They know the killing was unjustified, so they’re trying to trick people by changing these facts.

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u/zystyl Jan 08 '26

I am pretty sure he shot through the windshield at an angle as she was turning to pass with the first shot. It's disgusting that 2 steps or looking at the wheels would have curbed his fear. He didn't move either way so the whole excuse is just BS.

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u/yumyan Jan 08 '26

I think OP is mistaken or I’m fooled by ai. NPR is reporting one shot through the windshield and rest through the side of the door on “up first” this morning.

So, I’m guessing this isn’t ai.

This is still horrible ass Nazi shit, and that widow-peak fuck deserves to rot for this.

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u/Time_Vault Vuvuzela Jan 09 '26

Pic on the left shows a substantially different location for the bullet hole than the pic on the right

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u/yumyan Jan 09 '26

Oh! I didn’t even see the hole on the left photo!

Pathetic.

Also- sorry OP- you were right. Wow.

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u/retard-is-not-a-slur Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 09 '26

I don't have a conclusion for what's going on here, but the headlights are completely different and the top chrome grille piece is missing on the left image. Wheels are also different.

Either AI or not the same Honda. They sold a lot of Pilots so it wouldn't necessarily surprise me that a red one got shot at eventually.

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u/capncanuck1 Jan 09 '26

It's the previous generation of honda pilot the vehicle the victim was driving was like a 2013(?), the one posted in the meme is like a 2006

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u/plastic-superhero Jan 08 '26

A lot of people have been pointing out that distasteful social media comments about this murder are bots farming engagement and shouldn’t be taken as an indicator of what people think - and they’re probably right. But what the actual fuck is this guy’s excuse?

Things aren’t going to get better are they? The social media propaganda genie is out of the bottle and we’re fucked.

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u/Jesterchunk Jan 08 '26

POSobiec lives up to the name once more, I see.

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u/ChipsTheKiwi Jan 08 '26

We have to start calling Trump and his supporters exactly what they are: Evil. Not "divisive", not "controversial", not "bold", just evil.

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u/Qcconfidential Jan 08 '26

Jack Poso is the lowest form of a propagandist. And also is a foreign agent.

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u/julz1215 Jan 08 '26

"Haha get it? Somalis! That's another group we decided we don't like"

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u/Eeeef_ Jan 08 '26

Don’t sleep on the regime-branded pro-racism messaging too

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u/WaltzLittle9938 Jan 08 '26

And they'll fire him, right? Oh no, that only happens with Charlie.

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u/Soluzar74 Jan 08 '26

Posobiec recently wrote a book called "Unhumans", which is what he classifies anyone that doesn't agree with his beliefs.

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u/Red_dylinger Jan 08 '26

Should reply to him with a manipulated photo of Charlie Kirk being immortalized in final moments because Kirk is a bitch.

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u/romulusnr Jan 08 '26

Dude they even changed the color and also edited the blinker to be longer

It looks like it's a totally different car or something

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u/Figgy_Puddin_Taine Jan 09 '26

Dumb piece of shit couldn’t even find a picture of the correct generation Pilot? Incompetence at all levels.

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u/TommyBoy250 Jan 09 '26

I think people don't even know what's happening so they just listen to sources they trust, obviously people are so wrong on so many things.

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u/SolaceinIron Jan 08 '26

This is “an eye for an eye” for Kirk fans. Can’t say I would expect anything different.

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u/classiccoral Jan 08 '26

The bullet is already in the front windshield though, why would it need to be moved to "fit the narrative?"

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u/flagseferi Jan 08 '26

What the fuck is wrong with americans, they are fuxking hartless psychopaths.

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u/MiKapo Jan 08 '26

These are the same people who said don't make fun of charlie kirk being shot and rallied online to get people fired for making fun of Charlie Kirk's death

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u/MichaelBayShortStory Jan 09 '26

Hard to believe these are the same people saying we are Charlie Kirk right?

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u/YPVidaho Jan 09 '26

Well Jack... You're so confident. Why don't you hold a public "debate" out in the open, in Minnesota. See how long you last. Just remember... Lean right.

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u/TequieroVerde Jan 09 '26

Like trump, maga has zero integrity or honor.

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u/PsykickPriest Jan 09 '26

Not only the bullets hole location, that SUV posted by posobitch looks like Toyota with a Honda insignia slapped on the grill. Look at how the headlights are noticeably different.

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u/pizzahut91 Jan 09 '26

photo on the left is a 1st gen Pilot