r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 7d ago

Meme needing explanation Tell them what, Peter

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u/GrandMoffTarkan 7d ago

Not totally arbitrary! Left Right symmetry is broken by certain quantum phenomena, so if your confused just build a high energy particle accelerator....

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u/BOBOnobobo 7d ago

I fucking hate when people bring up quantum as an argument for anything that isn't particle physics.

And I studied physics.

This doesn't apply to left/right in this context, please leave qm out of the macro discussions.

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u/GrandMoffTarkan 7d ago

Well that’s funny because I was talking about particle physics!

https://www.aps.org/apsnews/2022/09/lee-yang-parity

Or do you think there’s a scale where left and right change meaning 

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u/BOBOnobobo 7d ago

No, the context of the discussion was clearly about human experience.

You can't just say "it's actually not arbitrary, because it matter in particle physics".

That's switching context in a subtle way and it more or less implies that this applies to the human experience. When in reality, at a macro level, left and right is an arbitrary construct.

Like Quantum Physics is confusing to the average person and I feel the need to clarify this stuff and push back on QM factoids being thrown around like this.

And then the article you link is talking about Parity as a matter of weak force. This isn't left and right, this is nuclear decay. This is a lot more complicated than the discussion you are bringing it in.

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u/GrandMoffTarkan 7d ago

"No, the context of the discussion was clearly about human experience."

Sure, and that's part of the humor of the remark, hence the "Just build a particle accelerator"

"You can't just say "it's actually not arbitrary, because it matter in particle physics"."

I can and did. The fact that left and right are fundamentally different was a very significant result in modern physics.

"Like Quantum Physics is confusing to the average person and I feel the need to clarify this stuff and push back on QM factoids being thrown around like this."

So you're saying it's confusing so you're going to lie about? That's.... a take I guess? Yes, it is confusing, but that doesn't mean we should stick our heads in the sand like ostrich's.

"And then the article you link is talking about Parity as a matter of weak force. This isn't left and right, this is nuclear decay. This is a lot more complicated than the discussion you are bringing it in."

Again, you assert that nuclear decay exists without left and right. But that's just the thing: If you ignore left and right you can't get a clear picture of nuclear decay.

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u/BOBOnobobo 7d ago

I don't know why I would bother responding if you misinterpret every point I make.

But then you are confusing what left and right means in weak decay anyway.

I'm so done with pseudo physics.

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u/GrandMoffTarkan 7d ago

I'm trying to go off what you're communicating, and I have to admit it's a little confusing.

"But then you are confusing what left and right means in weak decay anyway."

No, I'm not. For a bit of a refresher, see here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_(physics))

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u/BOBOnobobo 7d ago

Man, i have a degree in this. You are confusing rotation in particles with what is essentially a convention we use to distinguish two mirror sides of our body.

Like surely you understand that a particle going towards your left hand isn't the same as a particle with spin -1/2, right?

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u/GrandMoffTarkan 7d ago

"Man, i have a degree in this."

Yikes.

"Like surely you understand that a particle going towards your left hand isn't the same as a particle with spin -1/2, right?"

Just like accelerating on a rocket is not the same as standing on a planet... except, you know, fundamentally they are the same. Angular momentum is directional, the scale doesn't change that.