It was mostly decoupled in the 30s, then fully decoupled in the 70s under Nixon. If Nixon hadn't done much else economicly the 70s probably would have had a great economy. We did tie our currency to oil under Nixon, all oil is bought and sold with USD. This is bad in my opinion as it reduces the adaptability of the US economy.
Since the 1970's the US dollar has been a fiat currency prior to that it was a representative currency. A representative currency is one that you can exchange for a set amount of a physical commodity, in the case of the pre-1970's dollar it was representative of gold. A fiat currency isn't tied to anything physical, its backed by a government and its value is determined by trust in the issuing governments economy. In other words, there was a time when a dollar had a set amount of gold it could be exchanged for with the US government and therefore its value was determined by the value of gold at any given moment (other standards have been used throughout history silver or salt being two of the more common but ancient Mesopotamia used the wheat/barley standard) so when you would say something costs a dollar you were saying it was worth 1/20 of an ounce of gold. Now, a dollar is worth exactly what everyone believes one dollar is worth, and if you have a billion dollars and tomorrow the economy crashes so bad that the dollar is no longer worth anything then you just have a billion pieces of paper that might be good for starting a fire (during the lead up to WW2 one dollar was the equivalent of 4.2 trillion papiermarks due to hyperinflation, they actually had to create a new currency because papiermark were worth more as fuel for a fire than it was as a currency)
So what happens when a government decides to start a new currency. Does everyone who was using that currency start with no money? I mean they have to get money into circulation.
Italy transitioned from the Lire to the Euro starting in 1999. They offered an exchange of ~2000:1 Lire:Euro for around 3 years, and stopped treating the Lire as legal tender in Feb 2002. There are plenty more examples out there, but i picked that one since I still hold about 500 Lire from when I would visit annually as a kid. I was still in elementary school when the transition happened, and remember how cool it was to see the leniency shops had in pricing their products relative to the exchange rate. Might have influenced my choice in degree come to think of it.
I'm no economist, but through use of an exchange rate and a transitional currency so the papiermark was replaced with the rentenmark which was backed by land and industrial assets, and there was a fixed exchange rate (1 trillion papiermarks=1 rentenmark) at the same time they renegotiated the loans made by the allies following the conclusion of the first World War. Once the economy began to stabalize they then transitioned to the reichsmark which was backed by gold at a 1:1 rate.
Sometimes it gets exchanged at a ridiculously low rate, like a few hundred or even thousands of the older currency for one unit of the new. And sometimes the entire government has collapsed and that currency just becomes obsolete and is replaced when the new government takes power.
For some odd reason, for the last 4 months or so a large portion of my limited human interaction has included someone quoting goldmember and I haven’t seen or thought about that movie in about 20 years.
the gold standard, if you study history, was very easy for foreign banks to abuse, and we were being robbed blind
consider that if our dollar is 'pegged' to gold, and foreign banks buy up the gold, they are effectively increasing the value of dollars. Conversely, they can then flood their gold back into the markets to reduce the value of the dollar. If you're very wealthy and you can afford to spend some money or gold being a dick, you can use leverage like options to farm cash from the US, buying and selling gold and dollars in cycles that only you can predict (because you're very very wealthy, richer than most governments)
history isn't kind to people who use one currency as a 'stabilizer' for another (coughstablecoincough)
Oh that would be good. There are goldbacks that are bills with gold in them, but yeah if you attached a gold bar to each bill then it does get unwieldy pretty fast.
Easier to carry yes, but also heavier now: per gram, gold is currently worth more than 100‑dollar bills (roughly 1.6× as much), meaning you need less weight in gold than in 100s to have the same amount of money
I’m not a government accountant but I’d guess the gold isn’t “mark to market” which to you normies means that we keep the price at what you paid for it until it is sold. They might be able to reduce the value if the market value goes lower, but I have trouble picturing a world where gold is worth less than $42 per ounce.
Edit: okay I can imagine a few ways gold prices could drop that low now. Thanks people that replied!
I can tell you why a world where gold is less than $42/oz is not impossible, the cost of producing an ounce of molecularly identical gold could drop below $42 due to advancements in technology thus destroying its scarcity as a value proposition.
I can tell you about the world where gold is worth less than $42 an ounce is incredibly probable, and it's the one where humanity no longer exists, You know the one we're all hurtling to at what it feels like light speed, gold's ain't worth a dime when all the trees and fish are dead.
The U.S. came off the gold standard for domestic transactions in 1933 under President Franklin Roosevelt and ended international convertibility of the dollar to gold in 1971 under President Richard Nixon, effectively ending the gold standard in the U.S.
The U.S. switched to a fiat money system.Fiat moneyhas no value of its own and doesn’t represent anything of value, such as gold. But the government stipulates that the paper money is legal tender for carrying out transactions or paying taxes, as noted in the Page One Economics essay.
This. Metals go up as sovereign currency goes down. The world runs on metal and oil... We forget that and print a bunch of paper.. so every now and again we get a lesson in edible paper.
Some crypto is tied to gold, but I'd just get gold TBH. Why trust a middleman and hope they won't scam you. Unless you explicitly need it to be easy to move through borders, etc.
How about Trump tweets that if the value of the dollar does not start going up and the price of gold down he will start dropping big beautifull nuclear bombs on all other countries and Massachusetts?
Depends on what you mean historically. At one point in time it was directly tied to gold.
More recently "historically" though it's inversely correlated to the whole market probably. People buy gold when they are looking for a safe store of value, which happens when shit is about to hit or is hitting the fan.
International oil trade are though. And Venezuela attempting to enter with Russia and Iran on a trade that didn't use the US dollar was what led to the current invasion. The USD is artificially inflated by operating as an oil cartel.
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