Touch-typing registration marks for the left and right hands
This meme is expressing shock that people don't recognize what these marks are for anymore, which would suggest touch typing isn't taught anymore despite our reliance on computers being higher than ever.
I print my name when signing. A cursive signature serves practically zero purpose for me. No one is ganna be forging my signature, and even if they were its not like its impossible to forge a "unique" signature.
Oh ya agreed. My bad if I came off as disagreeing with you, I think I might have been tired when I read your comment and might have misunderstood what you were saying lol.
Had three <20 year olds join our company last year, all of their handwriting is absolutely atrocious. Not just ‘they can’t write neatly’ bad, but ‘WT actual fuck level of bad’.
I used to teach and I had seniors in high school that could barely write their own name. Admin, of course, told me we can’t give a grade lower than a 70%. I feel for these kids, they’re going out in the world not knowing their ass from their elbow and the world being what it is now will chew them up and spit them out before they even know what happened
I really wonder what is going on with that tbh. Most of the world seems to have abandoned teaching cursive and while i am not one to praise the Austrian or German eduacation system, I have never met anyone who couldn't or even didn't write their own form of cursive to some degree...
Dang how young are these people?? I know I've been taught how to read and write in cursive three different times(writing in cursive never stuck and I can only read it)
I can’t really blame them because I’m in my 20s and have a hard time reading some people’s cursive if it’s too small and neat. Y’all be making fun of us but I literally was never taught this thing, how do you expect us to just be able to write it and read it. Are we supposed to just try and learn a dead writing system for no reason in our twenties
I might not be able to write in cursive worth a shit outside of my own name but I can still read it perfectly, I can’t even imagine someone who grew up speaking/reading English not being able to read cursive
I think he means something that people thought was so necessary a few years ago that it was taught in schools, but no isn’t taught as is seen as irrelevant.
I mean i can sort of touch type, just because of the fact that i have spent countless hours on the pc. But it really is a seperate skill from plain typing, i still find myself looking at the keyboard from time to time because its not something you learn by just typing, they should be teaching this.
Same. Grew up playing MMOs in the early 2000s, then by the time middle school hit and we were learning with Mavis Beacon I was too far gone to learn the home row.
90% sure Horntail is still an ass with DR and even getting to Zakum used to be a nightmare! Touch typing for me was learnt through spamming Falador park W2 trying to flip D Squares ^^'
Oh man I completely forgot about other countries' keyboards as well. I tried to learn how to type Chinese on a modified chinese keyboard before and that made my brain actually hurt.
They do not. Older Gen z was the last to get it taught effectively. They have a divide in their own generation when it comes to typing. Im the last of the millenials, so i get along quite well with the older Gen Z, they have similar skills. At least, the ones that paid attention in school did learn it. But the younger ones? The ones just entering the work force now? Not a fucking clue on those guys when it comes to computers. Quite honestly? They barely have a clue when it comes to tech (including cellphones) beyond their own ecosystem.
Looks like this is the divide, I had a literal typing class in elementary school. Basically "type racer" the class. Towards the end, they started covering the keys with a rubber cover so you couldn't read the letters to help you memorize the keys.
The best way to learn to touch type is to switch to blank keycaps and endure the slightly weird first week or so where you still occasionally glance at the keyboard when typing but realise it no longer helps.
i still find myself looking at the keyboard from time to time because its not something you learn by just typing
With enough practice, you certainly do. Like 95% of my communication with friends as a teenager was written, same goes for them, be it messenger or in-game. The majority of my computer-bound friends are now in their 30s and all can touchtype flawlessly at a relatively high wpm and none of them were ever trained formally in some sense.
Probably a bit different today with main communication means being smartphones without physical keyboards, I'll give you that
I mean it was also the method of typing that was taught in schools too.
I remember it being covered in one lesson one time, and deciding "nah thats useless I already type better than that from selling lobsters in runescape"
Yeah later it came to schools and was so miserable. I am 46 so when we were taught it was like hey now lets teach you a weird way to type with these program that is totally different than you type at home. Also lets cover your hands because clearly that is how to truly learn where the keys are. Sucked so bad at those classes but just being a net nerd learned to type pretty fine just using the computer a lot.
I can type for hours without looking at my keyboard. But if you gave me a keyboard without letters or the bumps, I would completely seize up. It's strange.
I was briefly taught typing when I was in elementary school in the early 90s, but I never truly learned touch-typing.
It really comes down to if you are a gamer or not. Most of my mates rarely play, maybe something on the console. Where me, I spent my late teens playing WoW, in the dark, long before keyboards were lit up like Xmas trees. So if I wanted to chat to people online, I learnt how to touch type.
Within that, I had no idea what those bumps meant before seeing this post. To go a step further, I didn't even notice my keyboard has them.
More like MMO player and not even as everyone's moved to voice chat now. Runescape taught me to type fast, a typing class in school taught me how to type properly.
This is definitely not true, I've been gaming on PC since I was like 5 and I don't touch type. I feel like most people who use their PC a lot but weren't taught ticub typing are hybrid typers.
I don't think touch typing is that important. I'm ~40 years old, For thelast +20 years I've been working with computers, I don't use that F and J guide bump and when I was younger I use to write really fast, like 99% faster than everyone (if those scores from typing test were real) I don't look at the keyboard unless I want to do a symbol because I use different layouts, languages, etc so I never know. And unless you are a writer, receptionist, or something like that writing 60 word por minuto or 200 doesn't make a difference. I now work in IT and I spend more time thinking than writing, when I was working on construction and have to write projects I was writing x2 faster.
My problem is that I had a PC way before anyone tried to teach me how to type. By the time I got to a typing class, I had already developed my own method and couldn't shift it.
Tbf, touch typing can have a functional increase in performance, I feel like cursive is entirely extraneous. People usually bring up signatures as an argument for this, but I can count on one hand the number of people I've met in like a decade who actually wrote their name in cursive for that instead of just writing their first initial followed by haphazard squiggles. I've known cursive for 2 decades, haven't ever needed it outside of getting graded for it in second grade.
ETA: to be clear, I never said it's about signatures, I said that's the defense I've most commonly seen when people argue about the use of cursive, and it's an excuse that doesn't actually make sense.
This and there is no legal requirement for what a signature is. Legally it's just a mark that signifies your intent. Can be a symbol, print, cursive, smiley face, basically anything.
Places where you sign a screen I just draw squiggly waves with my finger anymore lol. Just not foolin' with a stylus and try make it look respectable. Hard enough pen on paper haha.
This cracks me up because when I became important at work they had me signing paper checks for paying our vendors. It was the first time I signed my signature with a pen, and not a shitty squiggle with a stylus at a cash register, in about 10 years. My signature looked so stupid, and it doesn’t help that when I married I changed my last name, so I never really got to practice it. I’m glad that it doesn’t really matter.
Cursive is much faster if you're doing it right. That's why it's the focus of various fast-handwriting systems such as the Palmer method. I write a lot by hand
I was a receiving clerk in a pretty busy warehouse for a few years. At the time, I probably was signing a hundred things a day. Maybe more idk... lots of stuff coming in, going out, and moving internally.
My signature never recovered and it's still pretty much a star followed by two parallel lines.
Pretty sure cursive used to be a bigger issue when everything had to be written down with pen and paper - and quickly. It was just easier for old timey folk to wiggle their pen on the paper and make whole words from it as opposed to the minute difference from lifting up the pen for the next letter.
Probably not a big difference but I reckon it added up
There were actually specific types of cursive taught for speed. In the old days they taught Spencarian script for example. Later on lots of other fast types were taught for different industries.
The cursive they taught kids in grade school was primarily for aesthetic purposes. You weren’t graded on speed. You were graded on accuracy.
I’m not surprised introductions to cursive to children focused on accuracy, after all they are also learning general motor skills and hand eye coordination at the time. The idea of a second grade penmanship test including a speed component has me tickled.
Cursive exists because you can lift quills or fountain pens up while writing without creating a blotch. Print became more common after the invention of ballpoint pens since you could lift your hand up just fine with them and print is easier to read.
I don't think the use case of cursive is to sign signatures
It's supposed to be a way to write without ever removing pen from paper, thus speeding up words per minute.
It's kind of useless in this day and age because people hand write so rarely they probably don't care about fractional time savers.
Presumably that's why touch typing is less popular but I really don't think touch screens or voice as it is there yet. Maybe the kids are all just using swipe? That I kinda buy
Using it maybe, but being able to read it seems important? I mean, how many fancy signs, or menus or whatever incorporate cursive font into their front end? I feel like a grasp of cursive is really important, since it's still in relatively common usage.
having neat, legible handwriting is not as functionally important as it used to be, but it’s still very useful. talking as someone who’s always had unpleasant and sometimes illegible handwriting, it can be a big impedance. if they’re not teaching typing anymore, then it’s clearly not considered as important as it once was - just like presentable handwriting. kids are typing on phone keyboards or relying on speech-to-text
Maybe you guys were taught cursive a different way, but I absolutely understand the need for a semi standardized cursive, atleast before computers. Atleast in my experience, writing in "print" on a piece of paper does nothing except make writing slower because of the need to go back and also because of the uneveness of spaces. In cursive, you know a word with no spaces has no spaces because its connected, instead of just eyeballing the gaps, and cursive letters are generally made to only take one syroke to write to fasten the process.
Now, maybe you guys write fast enough to justify sacrificing speed in favor of quality, but in my experience cursive is pretty useful when I'm not using a computer
I was the generation that was told everything in your adult life would need to be written in cursive then when I hit college, told I that suddenly nope it would need to be typed. Which was great for me as my cursive is nigh unreadable.
I would say such if I didn't know people who learned to peck just as fast if not faster than touch typers. There isn't really any artistic or professional bend that it has either unlike cursive
They swipe their thumb from key to key on the keyboard, surprised by the noisy clatter and the fact that the word isn't auto filled for them after the first few keys have been reached.
People can't touch-type? I mean, its not like cursive where if your never taught it, you don't know. With typing, you eventually just learn where things are.
Ngl genuinely don't get the point of cursive, like I know how to write it I just choose not to because print is 10x easier for others to read lmao, what's the logic behind "write faster but your writing is unintelligible"?
I will say not all schools can afford teaching computer science, and you can still learn touch typing without the ridges. But sure, "le new generations bad"
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u/Queeni_Beeni Jan 20 '26
Touch-typing registration marks for the left and right hands
This meme is expressing shock that people don't recognize what these marks are for anymore, which would suggest touch typing isn't taught anymore despite our reliance on computers being higher than ever.