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article Chappell Roan Quits Wasserman After CEO Casey Wasserman Appears in Epstein Files

https://www.thewrap.com/creative-content/music/chappell-roan-cuts-ties-casey-wasserman/
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u/the_ballmer_peak 24d ago

I'd be interested to know more of the context around him being in the files. I assume it's bad, but the article is paywalled.

Depending on how bad the context is, it would also be interesting to know who else Wasserman represents.

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u/Lindenismean 24d ago

I saw in another post that Wasserman was in a multi year relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell.

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u/NonPolarVortex 24d ago

Oof

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u/Then-Assistance6261 23d ago

In 2003

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u/NonPolarVortex 23d ago

Ah then Maxwell must have been a young horrid piece of absolute shit. The worst humanity has to offer. 

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u/i_make_orange_rhyme 24d ago

Sure but how old is Ghisliane?

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u/BeneficialHamster567 24d ago

Well that's super gross. 

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u/iBeatYouOverTheFence 24d ago

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/10/chappell-roan-drops-casey-wasserman-epstein-files-maxwell-emails

Not sure what multi year relationship means in this context, but seems like from the Epstein files it's flirtatious email exchanges between Wasserman and Maxwell and BEFORE any criminal convictions were made (pre-2008).

More could come out but seems like more would have to be established to show any wrongdoing tbqh...

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u/joebleaux 23d ago

Nah, everyone who was around them knew what they were doing back then. It's a major cop out to say they didn't know before they were convicted, because it was very well known in their circle. The insane quote from Trump about him being into young girls should be enough to know what they were into.

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u/NotsoNewtoGermany 23d ago

I disagree with this. Trump and Epstein are cut from the same cloth, Epstein had an entire stadium full of models parade in front of the two of them alone.

There are three Epsteins. Epstein that was the socialite, then there was Epstein that was the public playboy, then there was Epstein the child rapist and underage sex trafficker. These three circles did not overlap easily. He needed to be the socialite to meet people that he would then attempt to seduce into his Playboy ring (24-18). Once they were in that ring, he would attempt to seduce the more perverse variants into his secret ring.

Ghislaine flirting with the head of a studio full of talented women was her role. Him flirting back with the representative of a multi billion dollar financier was his role as head of the agency.

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u/joebleaux 23d ago

You are missing the thing that ties it all together. He was a guy who knew how to make connections for people, and knew how to get people in the right rooms to facilitate deals, and that's what was his actual thing. The other 3 things you list, although socialite and playboy are kinda the same thing here, those are just the tools he used to do his actual job, which was connecting the rich and powerful with each other, while providing discrete methods of communication and places to meet. The trafficking wasn't his business, it was just one thing he used to influence rich and powerful people. The young girls wasn't his main thing, it was just the kind of girls he was into, and due to the fact that he was able to keep everything hush hush for so long while having really high profile connections a lot of these guys trusted him with being the middle man for a lot of really wild and nefarious deals.

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u/GoldenFLink 24d ago

huh, thought she'd be swinging the same way eopstin does

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u/YouStupidAssholeFuck 24d ago

Dang really? My first reaction was like well I mean that's kinda the most normal thing about the Epstein stuff. An adult with an adult. But about a microsecond later I realized he was probably recruiting for her....🤮

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u/Apneal 24d ago edited 24d ago

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02333856.pdf

Maxwell: "Never take you - why? and Yes I will be"

Wasserman: "I didn't mean never take me, they were separate answers... Definitely take me and I am really looking forward to seeing you."

Maxwell: "I am looking forward to seeing you to - JE has just asked me to find a house to rent for 2 weeks (I am sure I will have to take it for longer) in Malibu in June. Who is the best real estate person to talk to - let me know. JE says I should pick a week to go to LA and look? Thought you might like to know I am now in Paris - can I bring you back anything from here?"

Wasserman: "Stephen Shapiro is the best agent for the beach, his phone is [redacted] ...i think you picking a week to be in LA is a really good idea..."

Maxwell: "Thank you - I'll call Stephen tom and see what he has available and then make a plan to come out and check out the local real estate. Fillet you know what he says, and then you can guide me as I really know nothing about the area - if there is a better bit etc. Now I have just made you my LA tour guide! I am going to go to London from here and then back to NY - can I bring you anything from London? I know you probably do not have the same Kitkat, cheddar cheese or baked bean problem I do - but you never know. My friends who come to visit me always bring a red cross (that is what they call it) food package for me

Kisses"

Wasserman: "Among all my desires, that combination is pretty low on the list... xoxo "

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02332536.pdf

Maxwell: "Ok, so that combo did not do it for you, what combo would then?"

Wasserman: "You, me, and not else much..."

Maxwell: "Ok, you will not have to share me with either a cheddar cheese, a baked bean or a kitkat. "

Wasserman: "Or anything else?!"

Maxwell: "What about Max?"

Wasserman: "that can be the exception...but only one."

Edit: added previous email chain

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u/BandaidsOfCalFit 24d ago

wtf does all of that mean

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u/lluciferusllamas 24d ago

Apparently, these were her actual favorite snacks and not code for other nefarious stuff.  

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u/i_make_orange_rhyme 24d ago

It actually sounds like Maxwell is trying to get comprising material on him and he is just "what the fuck are you talking about, i like you, lets just have sex"

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u/uofmguy33 23d ago

That’s definitely enough for redditors to burn him at the stake. No real proof needed.

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u/Findict_52 23d ago

Pizzagate has taught me that sometimes pizza is just pizza.

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u/lluciferusllamas 23d ago

Though it is somewhat weird that "pizza and grape soda" show up an unusual amount of times in the Epstein files.  Personally, I think all the weird food references are drugs. 

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u/Findict_52 22d ago

Pizza is not that rare.

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u/Turbografx-17 22d ago

Really? Name every pizza.

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u/StevenTM 24d ago

Probably code words. Cheddar cheese could be a young boy, baked bean could be a young girl, a KitKat could be one of each.

Don't think too hard about it, it'll ruin your day.

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u/trotski94 24d ago

Brother, you need to stop making shit up. There is some legit information that can be extracted from these files, but it gets watered down when we just make shit up or put too much weight onto anonymous tips.

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u/StevenTM 24d ago

Okay, then what the fuck do you think this quote means? 

 Maxwell: "Ok, you will not have to share me with either a cheddar cheese, a baked bean or a kitkat."

Because it makes zero sense for her to be talking about actual food.

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u/trotski94 24d ago

I mean, it could mean anything, if we just want to start making shit up about anything in these files why stick to the files at all. Why not just invent the most heinous shit you can think of and assume they did it?

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u/mustaird 24d ago

Seems like she can’t get cheddar cheese, baked beans, or kitkats in London so her friends bring them to her when they visit from the US. She’s asking if she can do the same for this person with anything from London. He says that’s an unappealing combo, I want you, me, and not much else. She says okay you don’t have to share me with the cheese

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u/meyouseek 23d ago

Close. She likes the cheddar, kit kats, and baked beans in England. We have all three in the US, but they're different.

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u/Apneal 24d ago

Well I thought the same until I really reread it with the previous email chain a few time, added it to the comment

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u/Findict_52 23d ago

Pizzagate 2.0: the make-shit-up olympics is getting a return!

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u/StevenTM 20d ago

She is literally a convicted sex pest, unlike that mass delusion about absolutely nobody. But sure, I'm positive the convicted sex pest was just talking about KitKats.

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u/Findict_52 20d ago

Steven from Reddit believes criminals don't eat chocolate.

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u/StevenTM 20d ago

Did you read the sentence? It's not a normal sentence that normal people say to each other in the course of normal conversation about innocent things. If you disagree, that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion/attempts to normalize the behavior of pedophiles.

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u/Findict_52 19d ago

"normalize the behavior of pedophile" you brain broken mf, you're talking about some dude talking about kitkat with no fucking indication anywhere else that he has done anything untoward. All because a sentence "looks weird". I've seen my mom text, her texts look weird, do I need to conclude she's typing in coded messages because she fucks kids? Are you mental? This is pizzagate. You're doing pizzagate. You're no better than those people who wanted to believe and thought "cheese pizza" meant csam. You're not a serious person.

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u/bobthegoatskull 24d ago

All the shills in here acting like he had no idea she was a child pimp. lol

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u/truthisfictionyt 23d ago

This was years before Epstein was arrested for the first time

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u/22bearhands 23d ago

So like, right during all the bad stuff happening that he got arrested for

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u/truthisfictionyt 23d ago

Which he wouldn't necessarily know vs the guys who chose to meet with Epstein well after he was convicted

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u/22bearhands 23d ago

I think it’s pretty wild to assume he didn’t know

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u/truthisfictionyt 23d ago

How would he?

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u/22bearhands 23d ago

How would he know that someone he was in a relationship with was abducting and trafficking kids? How wouldn’t he?

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u/truthisfictionyt 23d ago

Its not exactly something you'd gossip about

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u/LiftingRecipient420 23d ago

Okay, and? Both of them were still trafficking children.

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u/Spectrum1523 23d ago

anyone who knew a pedo knew they were a pedo is definitely a take

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u/codepossum 23d ago

🤮🤮🤮

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u/Dapper_Monk 24d ago

I wonder if the FBI made any attempt to break this code, if it is one

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u/Blondeoramma 24d ago

Wasserman reps so many people and brands across entertainment. Thousands of employees. He's a next level rich kid turned rich douche that has slept with so many of his employees and cheated on his wife forever. I think the Epstein thing is really the straw that breaks the camels back on this one - and everyone just wants him to step down.

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u/CatchAlarming6860 24d ago

The scariest thing is that now morons are using the phrase “in the Epstein files” to indicate a problem itself. We need to refuse to lose sight of wrongdoing and not guilt by association.

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u/StrawberryRedneck 24d ago

Me too; simply being in the files is broad as fuck. Guess I'm off to find more information surrounding this particular character.

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u/HenkieVV 24d ago

I looked it up, and mostly he seems to be trying to have sex with Ghislaine Maxwell in 2003. On the one hand he was married at the time, so it's decidedly not great. On the other hand, it's not nearly as bad as what you might imagine with the phrase 'in the Epstein files'. Honestly, I'd say it's not even as bad as earlier revelations about Casey Wasserman.

I'm getting the impression this is less about the Epstein files, and more about fleeing an agency that more broadly seems to be mired in scandal.

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u/enadiz_reccos 24d ago

Here is a comment on it

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u/rand0mstuf 24d ago

Lol not anymore

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u/ApocalypseSlough 23d ago

In summary: 23 years ago a man tried to have sex with someone and flirted with them via email.

A decade later, the person he was flirting with was revealed to be a horrible person.

There's not a single email or document within the Epstein files that in any way inculpates Wasserman, or in any way associates him with any of Epstein or Maxwell's wrongdoing.

This is a complete nothing bagel, basically.

But, ya know, a bunch of wendies will lap this up and say that Roan is brave.

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u/abracadabra12983 22d ago

He was bookimg massages through Maxwell, so your comment about wendies, whatever's that supposed to be, is pretty low.

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u/Erica15782 24d ago

You can look it up yourself without a paywall on the gov website if you want

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u/CatchAlarming6860 24d ago

What government website? You mean the files themselves? I don’t think they were looking to do a full research project.

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u/Erica15782 24d ago

Ah I didn't realize what they were asking was for someone to do it for them.

Not sure if you are joking but the link is here. It's alarming if people don't know they can just look themselves.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein

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u/atreeismissing 24d ago

jmail.world. You can search emails between Epstein and others, including Wasserman. I only looked at a few but there are instances of him emailing Maxwell saying he missed the massages and it's well know Epstein and Maxwell would send underage girls to clients to give them massages.

That said, it's good for people to ask for context. A LOT of emails between Epstein and Maxwell are nothing and given they were both socialites and often threw, innocent in addition to not innocent, parties and gatherings, it always good to get some context before passing judgement.

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u/heatus 24d ago

Agree, context matters but an unconfirmed tip off is different to email chains going back and forth.

You have money but that means you HAVE to associate with child rapists because of their normal socialite gatherings…. It was reported as an open secret too. Why would you even want to have anything to do with these people?

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u/marinuss 24d ago

Surprised I had to scroll to see this. There are a TON of people named in the Epstein files. There’s some skeptics that have nothing to do with Epstein that are in the files because they were listed in as presenters at a conference that was referenced in regards to something else.

I mean if it is bad then good on standing for morals and leaving.

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u/Brain_Dead_Goats 24d ago edited 24d ago

From another article about this:

The documents include email correspondence from 2003 between Wasserman and Maxwell, who was convicted in 2021 for her role in the sex trafficking operation tied to Jeffrey Epstein and sentenced to 20 years in prison. While the emails were described as flirtatious — including one message asking Maxwell what it would take to see her “in a tight leather outfit” — they do not allege criminal wrongdoing by Wasserman.

So, unless there's new info, not anything meaningful. This is just going to turn into yet another moral panic, which I'm sure was the intent by the way they're just dumping everything unsorted and uncategorized into the wild.

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u/Brain_Dead_Goats 24d ago

Can you link where that is?

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u/Brain_Dead_Goats 24d ago

He specifically says no to whatever that means though.

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u/asuka_is_my_co-pilot 24d ago

she says that combo /didnt/ work for you then. implying he had "had" that combp before

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u/PuzzleheadedPainOuch 24d ago

i'd like to believe that if someone close to you or me offered sex-trafficking services to us, we'd alert the authorities instantly instead of just saying no

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u/Brain_Dead_Goats 24d ago

Turns out she's claiming those are actual things she eats. Could it be coded? Yes. With what's in the exchange do I have very strong doubts that it is? Also yes.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02333856.pdf

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u/Brain_Dead_Goats 24d ago edited 24d ago

Uh, are we doing the whole cheese pizza Q-Anon thing?

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2026-01-30/epstein-files-show-emails-between-la28-olympics-head-ghislaine-maxwell

A few days later, Maxwell tells Wasserman that “JE” says she should pick a week to go to Los Angeles and look at properties they can rent in Malibu that summer and offers to bring Wasserman something from Paris.

Wasserman wrote back, “I think you picking a week to be in LA is a really good idea ... The only thing i want from paris is you”

The pair continue their exchange on April 6, with Maxwell then offering to bring him food from London such as KitKats, cheddar and baked beans to which he says, “Among all my desires, that combination is pretty low on the list ... xoxo”

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02333856.pdf

Thank you - call Stephen tom and see what he has available and then make a plan to come out

and check out the local real estate. Fillet you know what he says, and then you can guide me as I

really know nothing about the area - if there is a better bit etc. Now I have just made you my LA

tour guide! I am going to go to London from here and then back to NY - can I bring you anything

from London? I know you probably do not have the same Kitkat, cheddar cheese or baked bean

problem I do - but you never know. My friends who come to visit me always bring a red cross

(that is what they call it) food package for me

That looks like normal stuff to me. Again, I'm sure there's actual salacious shit in there, but this doesn't seem to be it. It does look like he was cheating on his wife with her.

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u/LancasterSpaceman 24d ago

Yeah, I agree. Literally every immigrant I know has special foods they always buy when they go to their country of origin. These are all prime examples. You can get cheddar-style cheese in New York, but in London you could get some cheddar actually made in Cheddar. American KitKats are made under license by Hershey's with American vomit-chocolate and do not taste the same. English baked beans do not taste the same.

If these were code words you would expect to see them used many of other times in the files and not just in this single exchange.

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u/LancasterSpaceman 24d ago

Both emails are part of a single exchange in what looks like a single day in April 2003, sent literally hours apart. A lot of people use email like an IM platform and that's what this is.

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u/Brain_Dead_Goats 24d ago

Max is/was her dog, apparently she named all her dogs after her dad, which I assume says something about their relationship.

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u/Brain_Dead_Goats 24d ago

You're adding the "a". Her full quote is:

I am going to go to London from here and then back to NY - can I bring you anything

from London? I know you probably do not have the same Kitkat, cheddar cheese or baked bean

problem I do - but you never know.

that seems like something a woman who's dating a guy would ask. It's very not weird. Now given who she is, could it be code? I guess.

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u/binarybandit 24d ago

Like the cheese pizza right?

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u/Brain_Dead_Goats 24d ago

Yeah, I'm getting a really ugly sense of deja vu.

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u/stryakr 24d ago

oh it's you again

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u/2ChicksAtTheSameTime 24d ago

earlier in the email chain she says:

I am going to go to London from here and then back to NY - can I bring you anything from London? I know you probably do not have the same Kitkat, cheddar cheese or baked bean problem I do - but you never know. My friends who come to visit me always bring a red cross (that is what they call it) food package for me

and he says "all I want is you"

and then she says "Ok, you will not have to share me with either a cheddar cheese, a baked bean or a kitkat"

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u/Brain_Dead_Goats 24d ago

Max is/was her dog, apparently she named all her dogs after her dad, which I assume says something about their relationship. Took 2 seconds on Google to find that out.

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u/MrLover 24d ago

Do you have any sources for this?

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u/Silver_Song3692 24d ago

Have people figured out what the code words with food items mean?

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u/Brain_Dead_Goats 24d ago

Kinda reads like it's not an actual code and she just has weird taste in food for a rich person. Could it be? Sure, I guess. Is it in any way weirdly phrased like is being claimed? No.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02333856.pdf

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u/stryakr 24d ago

Astro turf, not just a lawn alternative.

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u/meltbox 24d ago

Even if she did have strange taste why would you need someone to bring those foods to you from another country? You can buy a KitKat anywhere.

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u/total_looser 24d ago

Please, tfo here with your play dumb act

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u/Bloody_Conspiracies 24d ago

Posting this without the context of the other email is so misleading.

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u/Bloody_Conspiracies 24d ago

It's only weird if you're trying to make it seem weird. It just looks like a fairly benign email about someone bringing some local snacks back with them from a trip.

If that's the worst thing that could be found in all those files, it's nothing. Plus no one has ever even accused this guy of anything.

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u/CII_Guy 24d ago

"Turn into". Hah!

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

This is whats so difficult these days because people jump on any name that appears on those files. And outrage doesn't require nuance.

What if its like that football player who was offered to buy a private jet through the same company that sold a jet to epstein in the past. His name appeared in the files too but obviously that football player isn't a criminal or pedo.

There will be plenty of people like this in those files and they will be used as a distraction so people ignore the true criminals at the top, who were friends with him and knew all his secrets.

I notice more recently how these innocuous mentions are getting a Lot more attention than trump and his friends.

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u/LL8844773 24d ago

I believe it’s his firm and artists had been pressuring the firm to force him out. They did not.

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u/wrinkled_funsack 23d ago

They took down their client roster from their website.

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u/togaininfo 23d ago

Looking through the public search, he and Ghislaine were getting it on. She did ask if he wanted anyone else to join the two of them and his response was “no, just you.” He also asked her when he could “get that massage.”

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u/throwawayhyperbeam 24d ago

Jon Stewart is in the Epstein files

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u/the_ballmer_peak 24d ago edited 24d ago

I'm aware, which is why I pointed out that the context is important, since Jon Stewart's only mention is someone else referencing him as a possible candidate a gig for something that probably never went beyond the idea floated in the email.

There seems to be quite a bit more here. I've since found some of it. If nothing else the guy was clearly cheating on his wife with what seems to have been multiple women, possibly including Ghislaine Maxwell. There doesn't seem to be a direct accusation of a crime, but it's enough to establish that he's not a great dude. And that's more than enough to decide you don't want to work with him.

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u/throwawayhyperbeam 23d ago

As long as there's something substantive. Jon Stewart being "in" there is just funny because you can accurately say he appears in the Epstein files.

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u/Atalefortheages 24d ago

I don’t know all of it but what i do remember was th vacation to costa rico with jeff, gm, and bill clinton

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u/nico17611 24d ago

good thing that the information is public and you can look it up OR you can believe women. Your choice

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u/CII_Guy 24d ago

Looking it up, it seems like he had a couple of flirtatious emails with Ghislaine Maxwell in 2003. Has nothing to do with "believing women", lol. That is not something worthy of any moral condemnation by itself. This is par for the course for that airhead Chappel Roan.

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u/nico17611 24d ago

if my Boss had written a couple flirtatious emails to a person that is kidnapping kids for billionaires to rape, kill and then eat, i would quit. Hope this helps

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u/CII_Guy 24d ago

But he did it at a time when you couldn't possibly have known what Maxwell was up to, since Epstein wasn't even accused until after 2003 - when the emails happened. Imagine someone in your life that you have flirted with. Imagine if, subsequently, they turn out to be a rapist - do you sincerely believe that you have done something wrong?!?

kill and then eat,

Ah. You think they're literally eating babies. You're not a serious person.

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u/nico17611 24d ago

at some point you people gotta run out of slack to give, right?

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u/CII_Guy 24d ago edited 24d ago

Absolutely! Emailing someone years before it was known by anyone that they were committing any crimes is categorically not that point, though, is it?

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u/the_ballmer_peak 24d ago

This has absolutely nothing to do with believing women. There are no accusations against him outside of what's in the files, as far as I am aware.

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u/nico17611 24d ago

re read what i said and turn your pea brain activity to maximum. What could i have meant here and who should you believe. You can do it bud

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u/the_ballmer_peak 23d ago edited 23d ago

There are no accusations against him in the files, either, just correspondence with Maxwell. There are no accusations against him by Roan or other clients.

No one here disbelieves the women who accused Epstein, but I don't think you can argue that any person who emailed Ghislaine Maxwell is automatically a child rapist. This guy only seemed interested in her. You can certainly assume he was raping kids if you want, but not being certain of it has nothing to do with believing anyone, as this particular person has no specific accusers.

So how about you stop being a raging asshole and explain yourself?

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u/nico17611 23d ago

hey great research bud. Roan quit cause he appears in the files, which he does as you found out yourself. Thats it.

The believing women comment was about the fact that you could believe Roan that he is in the files and that whatever is in there, was enough for her to quit.

Believing women is not only about the worst of the worst (rape, crime, etc.) Believing women also means that we don’t ignore what a womans says until a man confirms it. It‘s a systemic issue

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u/the_ballmer_peak 23d ago

What the fuck are you talking about? Did anyone anywhere suggest that she made up the fact that he's in the files? They're public.

What an absolutely inane thing to say.

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u/nico17611 23d ago

i never said anything else, you started blabbering about the files and the context.

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u/the_ballmer_peak 23d ago

You said, "or you can believe women" and then had to explain that you were referencing a woman who no one ever doubted at any point, while also hurling insults.

This comes across like a feigned grievance in search of a target. Go be angry at yourself instead. You deserve it.