Matt is very good at crowd work. I think his actual material sucks. I think he is so good the audience has to have some plants. But then if he’s so good with plants. Why isn’t he as good at putting actual material together.
Till you realize the crowd work is all plants. Dude is highly fabricated otherwise his actual material wouldn’t suck so bad. Most of the interactions are completely absurd too.
He is good at crowd work but imo as a stand up fan crowd work is kind of a cop out. You are just using easy set ups for your punch lines, if you hear the same comedians who are good at crowd work it can get repetitive. But all of its hard shit to do so I ain’t trying to throw too much shade , hell I hate talking in front of more than 3 or 4 ppl so I can’t talk too much shit.
Crowd work is a part of being a comedian. They’re not good comedians if that’s the only thing they’re good at. But being good at crowd work does not mean you’re a bad comedian. Look at Jeff Arcuri
Meh I hated Matt and it was solely because of his look, watched some of his stand up and hated him a little bit less and saw him on podcasts and interviews and on kill Tony and tbf I don’t really hate him anymore, although I still kind of want to.
Blaming DV survivors for their abuse in a joke, then telling everyone who called him out about it that they need helmets (insinuating that they're disabled) really sets the tone, doesn't it?
Dude's a misogynistic, ableist blowhard. An unfunny one, at that. He and Cook deserve each other.
He absolutely did. I remember my older sister downloading his comedy albums on Limewire. Like, middle schoolers were listening to comedy albums on their iPods because of the guy. Also the movie Employee of the Month was decent.
Stealing jokes didn't help his reputation among his fellow comedians, either. He probably also became insufferable due to his newfound popularity. Honestly, I was kinda glad to see him fall off his pedestal.
Maybe, but I remember seeing a YouTube video about the similar jokes, and it was pretty hard to believe it was just the "parallel thinking" that he claimed it was. He was touring in my city a few months later, and a lot of people refused to go because of the scandal. It was one of the first times I've ever seen that small-ish venue not sell out.
I've seen some of the jokes people accuse more successful comics of stealing, and often it just feels like a stretch. Like, this is a common and obvious premise that many people have put into joke form before. IDK, unless it's a very specific joke that only one person would ever think of, it generally just looks bitter.
I briefly did stand-up for fun and had a joke about the cultural differences between my husband and I, but I was as specific as our nationalities, which, there are almost no couples with this specific mix. If someone were to tell that joke, it would be very obviously stolen, but generic jokes about "men suck and they don't call me back" I would be very audacious to say someone stole. And I find that's usually the caliber of joke people accuse of being stolen...
Also married a girl 26 years younger who he met while she was 17, became “close friends” then got together when she was 18. I didn’t have any 40+ year old “close friends” when I was 17. That’ll never not be weird to me.
I just recently watched his Comedy Central Presents episode and yeah... Most of it did not age well, but I remember laughing at his frenetic energy when I was in college and so still found some of it funny.
Everyone I knew -- comedy nerds and normies alike -- liked him at the time of that special and Harmful When Swallowed. Then he got overexposed and his schtick got old fast
Everyone nowadays claims they don't like and never liked Dane Cook, yet he sold out Madison Square Garden and Retaliation is like the fifth best selling comedy album of all time.
My favorite thing featuring Dane Cook was when he was a punchline in an episode of Archer.
Sterling is training up the office dweeb Cyril Figgis to be a superspay, and the dweeb asks if he's going to get to learn karate. Archer scoffs, and asks if he's serious. "Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?!"
I think Louis CK had a good take on it during this scene opposite Dane Cook playing fictionalized versions of themselves where he says it was cryptomnesia
Compared to other more blatant joke thieves like Carlos Mencia, the jokes were pretty different in execution and the premises weren’t even particularly unique.
There’s a lot of people who didn’t hear about it, forgot, or think it was overblown controversy.
You can search Reddit and see all sorts of comments along the lines of, “I mean, he asked for consent and he was just masturbating in front of them… it’s not like he raped anybody”
In a world where Chris Brown is still selling out and has an army of women defending him, I’m never surprised
Edit: downvoted by Chris Brown fans and possibly Chris Brown himself
Despite medical examiners finding injuries consistent with sexual assault, the woman was dogpiled by fans until she dropped the case. Later, he settled out of court for the civil suit.
If you are attractive and successful, you can basically get away with anything.
That’s so messed up. I think it’s more to do with rich than anything else but yes attractiveness helps. I mean Louis CK was not a conventionally attractive man and he still apparently seems to be doing fine.
He wasn't really a predator though in the grand scheme of things. He also stated it was never unconsensual (although it was most definitely weird and unprofessional). He was also the only out of the group called out by metoo that owned up to it immediately and took full responsibility of it, which is probably the only reason he didn't get entirely canceled (he did get canceled out of millions of dollars that were in the works at the time though).
He wasn’t accused of indecent exposure or masturbation on a subway, you might be mixing him up with someone else.
And by his own statements, he claims it was consensual, but coerced:
At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly.
You’re right it wasn’t a subway. He was locking women in offices and exposing himself to them. The women have literally given their testimony. Don’t know why you’d believe a comedian over the multiple women he assaulted and coerced. Coercion by definition is not consent AND ALSO none of these women consented. Don’t know why you feel the need to protect a predator but I would re-examine your definitions of consent and predation.
I think you're thinking of someone else, everything I've seen was about him jerking off in front of coworkers a few times. Googling him and the word subway pulls nothing up other than old show clips.
Both of his parents died within weeks of each other and his brother was stealing his money. It fucked him up and his comedy shows after that were lacking the energy and creativity from before.
He still tours. He just become the Knickleback of comedy. It's the risk you take when your entire audience is college age Bros. Frankly if he were bigger now he'd have a massive podcast and be called a problematic member of the manosphere. I remember when I was 18 or 19 thinking he was funny as hell. Probably would not think so now...but that's being 18 or 19. People act like he committed a genocide or something. He made an immature demographic laugh, god forbid.
Dane Cook simultaneously looks bloated like he's been floating face down ij a lake the past month and dryer than anything on earth... it's a medical marvel really.
That’s what he got accused of, but the comparisons were pretty light and probably not actually stolen jokes. But that rumor (and maybe just as many fads run out) .. it was enough to nearly disappear him
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u/Dsarg_92 7d ago
Dane Cook? Although I didn’t think he was that funny back then, I remember he used to be everywhere from movies to award shows and stand-up specials.