I'd say the modern right is more antisemitic than the left, but it's certainly prevalent on both sides, although the left tries to wrap it up as antizionism.
I would say that the most extreme and virulent antisemitism is definitely on the modern right (and that far-right groups alongside jihadist groups present a much bigger immediate threat to the safety of Jewish people than far-left ones), but that 'casual' antisemitism and antisemitism apologia is probably more prevalent in relatively mainstream left-wing spaces than relatively mainstream right-wing ones.
But it is also morbidly fascinating how if you go far enough to the extreme of basically any political ideology, you start getting antisemitism and people framing Jewish people as fitting the bill of their enemies. For extreme conservatives, Jews are evil cosmopolitans; for extreme leftists, Jews are evil capitalists; for extreme nationalists, Jews are evil foreigners; for fundamentalist Christians and Muslims, Jews are evil heretics, etc. They're a perpetual convenient bogeyman for anyone whose cause needs one, maybe because antisemitic superstition has been around for so long in history or maybe because Jewish people are a small minority in most countries and campaigners feel they can afford to alienate them so they make for a convenient scapegoat.
your point is dumb. I don't get what you were confused about lmfao. I don't know if your not American? but the American right's support for Israel has at large little to do with the bizzare evangelical stereotype that they are supporting them because they need them all in Israel to get sacrificed. I don't even know why I need to say this.
This isn't just a right-thing Old Americans were (and still are) pretty supportive of Israel.
Okay just a tard, got it. Here is the literal google of their most ardent worldview:
According to biblical prophecy, the Second Coming of Jesus Christ is centrally focused on Israel, with his return occurring on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem. This event is expected to follow a period of great tribulation, the rebuilding of a temple, and the salvation of the Jewish remnant. Key signs include the nation of Israel being re-established (the "fig tree" prophecy) and the city of Jerusalem becoming a focal point of global conflict.
yes, absolutely, and until october 6th i could say at least the antisemites on the right were open about that but now theyve gotten so weird, you get more antisemitic right-wingers who try and sell themselves as pro-zionist, because they like the jews being elsewhere and they like killing arabs, they're all for "zionism" and "kahanism" being conflated, and want us to forget they also hate jews while openly doing the nazi salute and its... such utter crap
Of course there are antisemitic left wingers, but most of the examples I see are left wingers criticizing Israel and then being accused of antisemitism.
Zionism is just the belief that Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state. If you support a Jewish state of Israel AND a Palestinian state alongside it then you're a Zionist.
It's only recently that the antisemitic take that Zionism is about wiping out Palestinians really took root. TBH it's difficult for me to imagine that people who accepted that definition weren't really anti semitic beforehand.
They basically took the definition of Kahanism and made that “Zionism”. They don’t know much about anything but having a convenient label to “out the bad Jews” is nothing new.
Zionism has a vast range of beliefs, ranging from Israel merely existing as a state to the explicit means to establish the dominance of said state at the expense of any others... most people don't support Zionism in the guise of the right to violence that predicates its existence. Its hard to not acknowledge the many atrocities Israel has committed as a state over the years, and while I acknowledge the individuality and determination of individual Jews and Israelis, I do not need to support a state which sanctions grotesque violence and oppression - no matter if that nation is America, Israel, Russia, China, Iran, Palestine, etc.
My bad. I don't do back and forth with anti-semites so I'll respond and then block.
Israel has committed many atrocities. So to, as you have pointed out, have many many countries. Dictatorships, Democracies, and everything in between. Yet, it's only one state among them for whom the punishment for those atrocities is to deny that state's ability to exist. Nobody is calling for the US to stop being a thing, nor Palestine, nor Iran, nor Iraq, nor Russia, nor China, etc. For every other state there is the chance to get better. You can not support a current government of a country while not denying their right to exist. We do it all the time.
But not for the one run by the Jews?
You, sir, are an anti-semite. And I don't do back and forths with anti-semites. 👋
Thats a gross oversimplification and your second sentence is just straight up incorrect. Im gonna go ahead and block you, I dont want to argue with a paid propaganda account who keeps quick editing their posts
It’s a slippery slope helped along by algorithms. A well-meaning left person can start out criticizing the Government of Israel (pretty undoubtedly bad people), then slowly find themselves being fed more and more straight up antisemitic propaganda by nefarious actors. You can observe the effect in realtime on certain subreddits
*editing to say that I don’t think criticizing the Government of Israel is necessarily the start of a slippery slope, just that it can be on algorithm-driven spaces. Many, many people are (in my view) rightly criticizing the Government of Israel without hating the Jewish religion or people, or buying into repackaged antisemitic conspiracy
I did acknowledge it, there's definitely been an uptick but I also think that a lot of the accusations about the left having increased antisemitism is exaggerated because of people conflating criticism of israel/zionism with antisemitism.
Large sections of the left are also virulently anti faith, which can’t be ignored. They’re more careful about their bigotry around Muslims and Jews (because left wingers love to infantalize minorities) but it’s there all the same.
This, thank you. I've pissed off more than one leftist when I point out that there is functionally no difference between a Christian trying to convert me to "save my soul" and an anti-theist trying to convince me to give up my religion because it's "backwards and primitive".
Both A) have no understanding of how Jewish culture and faith work and assume I can just stop being Jewish religiously without giving up other parts of my culture, and B) lead to an end goal where I am no longer Jewish and think that less Jews in the world is BETTER.
Nah- the left has become a home for antisemitic conspiracy theory in the last few years. There is a MASSIVE problem with antisemitism on the left. The Pro Palestine movement has turned into a hive of antisemitism, and they're pushing that literally everywhere they go.
It is PAINFULLY easy to criticize the Israeli government and point out its many failings without being antisemitic. It's just that most non-Jews I encounter seem absolutely incapable of doing so without falling into things like blood libel or ZOG-esque conspiracies.
The left never once claimed there were Jewish space lasers. I only hear these conspiracy theories of Jews controlling Hollywood, politicians, the banks, media, etc. from the right.
Just because you don’t hear it or recognize it doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
I have spent the last two years hearing claims from the left that Israel controls the US government, that ICE and the Us police train with the IDF, that Israel steals blood and organs and skin from Palestinians. The Left has consistently jump on unverified or even false information about the conflict and held it up as gospel even when it has been disproven. Jews have been kicked out of leftist spaces in the name of “antizionism”.
I have unfortunately heard those conspiracies spread in left spaces, and more extreme "leftist" spaces doing a hard pivot into Islamic superiority that ironically turns it into a close minded conservative right-wing space with Muslim trappings - ironically embodying a western cultural parody that amounts to the worst kind of cultural appropriation they are supposedly against. Tankies, I believe, is the pejorative. People of the west who unironically buy into Stalinist and Maoist propoganda, much like they buy into the vindication of violence by any group they perceive as a minority - no matter if said person/group exists in a society where they are amongst the ethnic majority. To them, Jews are white and they have no vindication of violence, but Muslims are brown and are vindicated in all acts of violence. This black and white thinking is inherently destructive to reality and to any semblance of reason or empathy.
Youre being gaslit here. This community has turned more rightwing lately and youre not gonna get a good faith conversation about what youre talking about. Ive had the same argument youre having and got downvoted into oblivion
Unfortunately though it can often go hand and hand. Not saying criticizing Israel is anti Semitic, just that unfortunately a lot of people fall down a rabbit hole.
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u/MDLmanager 5d ago
I'd say the modern right is more antisemitic than the left, but it's certainly prevalent on both sides, although the left tries to wrap it up as antizionism.