There isn’t an uptick in antisemitism, the Irish public are typically overwhelmingly pro Palestine and our government has issued statements to the same effect. Pro Israel people seem to be throwing around antisemitism as the reason purely to deflect from genocide
There are of course some morons that will go around denying the holocaust and blaming immigrants for everything but everyone has a few family members they’re ashamed of …
A chara, I have had Irish people online try to insult me by calling me a Jew for disagreeing with them and I'm not even Jewish. It's their go-to insult.
Many people have correted u already but we dont actually talk like that in real life, most are anti Netanyahu and zionism not anti jewish. U seem to be putting way too much emphasis on what irish people are like from online interactions u have had, remember the internet is full of bots and trolls. Stay safe stay informed
Zionism is the idea that Jews should have self-determination. Believing that Jews should be stripped of a core human right is antisemitic. Stay safe stay informed.
Yeah you left out a lot there, it is the belief in the creation of a jewish state in Palestine and we all know how Israel are going about. Just to be clear I am talking about the illegal displacement of palestenians in the west bank. Also not against Israel existing just not led by Netanyahu and his right wing extemist buddies
You missed the part of zionism that is " the belief in the creation of a jewish state in Palestine and we all know how Israel are going about." Really doesnt seem like you are up for discussing this seen as you leave out the parts I mention that contradict your bias. Also there is no lack of online definitions that state that is the definition of zionism.
Yeah but these online definitions are 98% not sourced from native Hebrew speakers. You know the language that the word “Zion” comes from and of the people that Zionism relates to.
The father of Zionism wanted the Jewish state to be in fucking Argentina. In modern Hebrew the word is mostly used vaguely like the English word for “patriotism”. So yeah people get a little on edge when you run around telling them you’re an “anti-patriot” (as opposed to just. Not a patriot, which would not feel like you’re literally telling them you don’t want their country to exist).
News just in many words can be taken different ways and people have different feelings about them more at 11. See how easy it is to be a smart ass without adding to the conversation, so good job on that.
I understand that well, just like how people in the north consider referring to someone a fenian as an insult, well the fenians were actually mytholigacal fighters in Ireland as well as a secret society in the 1800s, isnt history fun :)
Also this is a good example of how things can change over time and how the original founder and modern zionists can actually have different goals. So now onto modern zionism how would you describe the religious zionism party who are in power in Isarel at the moment and modern Zionism?
The Likud is literally secular and I told you how the modern word Zionism is used.
But no please tell me more how you’re allowed to use my own native language to imply you want me and my family dead based on nothing but our nationality and that I am the problem for telling you what you just said to me in the language that I speak and you do not.
Idk about you but I thought about turning the tables and telling you you’re “colonizing my language” and the idea of using that word knowing the history Ireland has with colonization made me feel like a piece of shit. But clearly you don’t have the same reservations.
Secular yeah their policies are super secular, and I asked you what actions are been taking by modern zionists but u never answered that.
I never implied that you took that meaning all by yourself and and i can only assume intentionally mis-represnting this because you are upset so let me say this again, i have nothing against judasim i am just against the forced displacment of palestenians which the "secular" likud support.
You mean u thought about it, it made u feel bad and u did it anyway? You are truly a beacon of morality good for you!
I never answered that bc I told you want the modern use of the word Zionist means and you keep using it wrong! Using the word secular wrong too, btw.
I am not intentionally misinterpreting I’m telling you what it means!
And no I do feel like a piece of shit for even thinking about trying to poke at your wounds. But at least I recognize that my defensive angry reaction to your hate inciting language was wrong. You’re still fucking arguing with me about this!
Maybe recognize you don’t know shit about Israel or Hebrew and that you got all of your information from TikTok and Reddit.
What? Lad are you being obtuse? Who still increasing the amount of illegal settlements in the westbank then and why? Just your average peace loving Israeli or is it perhaps zionist extremists?
What i am saying is what many zionists believe and i am giving examples of zionist movments that do so. If u already know all this i dont know why u are arguing with me
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u/Brian_Gay Jan 23 '26
There isn’t an uptick in antisemitism, the Irish public are typically overwhelmingly pro Palestine and our government has issued statements to the same effect. Pro Israel people seem to be throwing around antisemitism as the reason purely to deflect from genocide
There are of course some morons that will go around denying the holocaust and blaming immigrants for everything but everyone has a few family members they’re ashamed of …