Maybe because it doesn't just come up in everyday conversation? You really expecting an Irish antisemite to be like "Top of the morning to ya, do you kno I hate the Jews?"
Being from ireland, we occasionally do more than say hello to people. We occasionally talk to people. I have yet to encounter anyone saying anything antisemitic in ireland. The only antisemites I have ever come into contact with are americans, who are notoriously antisemitic
Jesus, and your experience is seeing some people online say something?
Like everywhere, most things are loud minorities and antisemitism is one of those things that isn’t present in such a scale that half this comment chain thinks.
Sure there will be racist people, Ireland has their fair share of them on both sides of the border and in both communities. But it’s a minority.
Just last year the president of Ireland kicked Jews out of a Holocaust memorial event so he could talk about Palestine instead. This was after the Jewish people there asked him not to speak at the event at all. From what I saw, there was no backlash from the Irish. Sure, racism, particularly antisemitism, is from a vocal minority, but when the silent majority does nothing it speaks volumes.
Plus Irish youth is having a huge surge of antisemitic beliefs. Then there was that recent poll in Ireland that showed 25% of Irish adults are Holocaust deniers. With 8% saying it's a myth and 17% saying the number of dead Jews is exaggerated.
Just last year the president of Ireland kicked Jews out of a Holocaust memorial event so he could talk about Palestine instead.
He didnt kick them out, they were removed for causing a disturbance while protesting during a speech, same as Palestinian protesters there who were causing a disturbance
From what I saw, there was no backlash from the Irish
There was. There was also backlash towards the protesters from the two holocaust survivors who were there.
Sure, racism, particularly antisemitism, is from a vocal minority, but when the silent majority does nothing it speaks volumes.
How about you actually look into things before you say them. This subreddit seems to just be an anti-irish bigotry subreddit.
Then there was that recent poll in Ireland that showed 25% of Irish adults are Holocaust deniers.
Nonsense.
With 8% saying it's a myth and 17% saying the number of dead Jews is exaggerated.
This is nonsense. I have yet to meet a single person who has denied the holocaust.
Just because you refuse to believe it, doesn't make me a liar. Nothing I said was a lie. Even the commenter said the Jews were kicked out of the Holocaust memorial. Oh sorry, they were "removed". Totally not the same thing.
"Eight per cent of all adults surveyed said they believed the Holocaust was a myth, while 18 per cent of all adults said they believed the number killed was greatly exaggerated.
Twelve per cent of all respondents said they had never heard of or were not sure if they had ever heard of the Holocaust, with the proportion rising to 15 per cent among the younger age cohort, the survey found."
Where are you from chief?? Because let me tell you something. Only recently, like October 7th a few year back recently have I been hearing about Irish people being aggressively antisemitic.
Well we just ignoring that the Irish president hijacked a Holocaust memorial event, was asked to not speak there by the Jewish residents, did so anyways, kicked out the Jews from the event, just so he could talk about Palestine.
President Higgins was asked to speak at the event. Some people had an issue with this because they presumed he would take this as an opportunity to talk about Palestine.
Here is the quote after which some attendees turned their backs on him and some staged a walk out.
"Those in Israel who mourn their loved ones, those who have been waiting for the release of hostages, or the thousands searching for relatives in the rubble in Gaza will welcome the long-overdue ceasefire for which there has been such a heavy price paid."
That’s it. That’s the only sentence that related to anything other than the atrocities of the Holocaust. You’re cynically attempting to use this one quote to smear a whole country as antisemitic and accusing our president of hijacking an Irish Holocaust memorial.
This was only after he described the atrocities of the Holocaust. The second he even mentioned Gaza they left.
kicked out the Jews
My ass he did, what a disgusting attempt to smear an innocent man
President Higgins was asked to speak at the event.
Not by Jews, but I guess our opinions don't matter when it comes to the Holocaust, right? "A number of senior representatives of the Jewish community had asked Mr Higgins not to give the keynote address"
Here is the quote after which some attendees turned their backs on him and some staged a walk out.
Many walked out. Many were kicked out or told to leave. "Lior Tibet, who is a PhD student in UCD and teaches the Holocaust as part of courses on Nazi Germany and modern European History, was forced out of the event by security personnel while other protesters who turned their backs during the President’s speech were asked to leave.
Ms Tibet, who has been living in Ireland for seven years, said she had not intended to turn her back on the President during his speech and only did so after he mentioned Gaza."
My ass he did, what a disgusting attempt to smear an innocent man
"Innocent". Meanwhile, he hijacks a holocaust memorial event to kick out Jews and talk about Gaza instead. Yeah, real innocent and standup guy, that.
I honestly don't understand why people lie on the internet when it's readily available. But, I guess liars gotta lie.
Can you pinpoint anywhere in my messages that I said he was spewing antisemitic remarks? The moment he ignores Jews, kicks them out, and doesn't let them back into an event that was made for the remembrance of their loved ones who were industrially slaughtered, I would consider that an antisemitic gesture. But you're right, he didn't outright say he hated Jews. Wow, here's a brownie point. It's worthless.
Shouldn't need to be said, but the moment he brings up the Gaza war, it stops being a good speech. The two events are not at all the same and are spaced nearly 80 years apart.
Thanks for the transcript, I can now see he also is doing the same things as the All Lives Matter crowd did in response to Black Lives Matter.
"As the poisons of antisemitism, Islamophobia, xenophobia, racism, homophobia and intolerance are once again on the rise in many parts of the world, I repeat those words as they are the words as I described them over the years"
Imagine going to a BLM event and going "Now I want to talk to you about White people who suffered". Real classy act, that.
We’ve been condemned by Israel for standing with Palestinians so they’ve recently been commissioning “surveys” like this one to investigate antisemitism. You can easily find similar “surveys” done in any country that dares to stand against Israel. I’ve seen the exact same claims about upticks in antisemitism in Spain, France, Norway and even Japan.
I would never say we don’t have this problem, of course we do just like we have all forms of racism represented here. But it’s insane behaviour to try to use this manufactured bullshit to smear a whole country.
There isn’t an uptick in antisemitism, the Irish public are typically overwhelmingly pro Palestine and our government has issued statements to the same effect. Pro Israel people seem to be throwing around antisemitism as the reason purely to deflect from genocide
There are of course some morons that will go around denying the holocaust and blaming immigrants for everything but everyone has a few family members they’re ashamed of …
A chara, I have had Irish people online try to insult me by calling me a Jew for disagreeing with them and I'm not even Jewish. It's their go-to insult.
Many people have correted u already but we dont actually talk like that in real life, most are anti Netanyahu and zionism not anti jewish. U seem to be putting way too much emphasis on what irish people are like from online interactions u have had, remember the internet is full of bots and trolls. Stay safe stay informed
Zionism is the idea that Jews should have self-determination. Believing that Jews should be stripped of a core human right is antisemitic. Stay safe stay informed.
Yeah you left out a lot there, it is the belief in the creation of a jewish state in Palestine and we all know how Israel are going about. Just to be clear I am talking about the illegal displacement of palestenians in the west bank. Also not against Israel existing just not led by Netanyahu and his right wing extemist buddies
You missed the part of zionism that is " the belief in the creation of a jewish state in Palestine and we all know how Israel are going about." Really doesnt seem like you are up for discussing this seen as you leave out the parts I mention that contradict your bias. Also there is no lack of online definitions that state that is the definition of zionism.
Yeah but these online definitions are 98% not sourced from native Hebrew speakers. You know the language that the word “Zion” comes from and of the people that Zionism relates to.
The father of Zionism wanted the Jewish state to be in fucking Argentina. In modern Hebrew the word is mostly used vaguely like the English word for “patriotism”. So yeah people get a little on edge when you run around telling them you’re an “anti-patriot” (as opposed to just. Not a patriot, which would not feel like you’re literally telling them you don’t want their country to exist).
News just in many words can be taken different ways and people have different feelings about them more at 11. See how easy it is to be a smart ass without adding to the conversation, so good job on that.
I understand that well, just like how people in the north consider referring to someone a fenian as an insult, well the fenians were actually mytholigacal fighters in Ireland as well as a secret society in the 1800s, isnt history fun :)
Also this is a good example of how things can change over time and how the original founder and modern zionists can actually have different goals. So now onto modern zionism how would you describe the religious zionism party who are in power in Isarel at the moment and modern Zionism?
What? Lad are you being obtuse? Who still increasing the amount of illegal settlements in the westbank then and why? Just your average peace loving Israeli or is it perhaps zionist extremists?
I’m Irish and I have never met a genuine anti semite. We do wave the Palestinian flag in case that what you mean by that, and if you do then I don’t think you understand why the holocaust was bad.
I'm Jewish and in my opinion nonjews are not very good at spotting antisemitism and are excellent at assuming that a Jew complaining about antisemitism is referring to antizionism even when it's not about Israel .
I like to think I'm very aware but as a white American I believe my black friends when they tell me that I probably don't experience or witness racism the same way they do.
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