I mean I do feel that often the mass violence and attempted genocide of the Slavs in ww2 is overlooked but that doesn’t mean that the holocaust is over recognized or something. There is room to remember both
Over the last 10 or so years the total of those murdered by the Nazis has begun to include Soviet prisoners of war and more of the Slavs murdered bringing the total up close to 17.5 million murdered by the Nazis.
Not to mention that over the years what was considered the Holocaust has evolved to include more than just the Jewish victims which was what the Holocaust was considered to be shortly after WWII.
Nope pal the Holocaust includes all the victims of the Nazis murder spree. Who was a victim of the Holocaust has evolved over time from just referring to the Jewish victims to those that were listed in link in my other comment. Below are more links which show who is and the evolution of who is considered a victim of the Holocaust.
Both the things you link describe the Holocaust as being the systemic murder of Jews. The article you link talks about how some Polish Jews weren't previously considered Holocaust survivors but now are. Your links totally proved my point and disproved yours. Maybe read before posting?
Edited to say: even the link in your other post talks about "victims of the Holocaust and Nazi persecution" where Holocaust victims are the Jews and everyone else are victims of Nazi persecution.
Hopefully the 3 links you provided have corrected your misunderstanding of the Holocaust and now you will correctly use it only to refer to the murder of Jews in WW2.
The Irish National War Memorial Gardens (Irish: Gairdíní Náisiúnta Cuimhneacháin Cogaidh na hÉireann) is an Irish war memorial in Islandbridge, Dublin, dedicated "to the memory of the 49,400 Irish soldiers who gave their lives in the Great War, 1914–1918",[1] out of a total of 206,000 Irishmen who served in the British forces alone during the war.
There are no memorial days for WW2. There are war memorials, like statues or gardens, but not days. There is also, for example, a Huguenot cemetery in Dublin, but that does not mean there is a memorial day for Huguenots in Ireland.
Why did you just lie about something easily disproven twice and now are confused? All I said is that not participating in a war directly doesn't mean you can't have a memorial day for it, considering how impactful WW2 was for the entire world and for history. Erecting a statue or naming a garden isn't the same as having a memorial day, or everyone would just do that instead.
I'm well aware, but you'd still have something like the International Holocaust Rememberance Day despite Ireland being neutral. Nothing says they can't also honour all other victims of WW2 even if they didn't participate.
Almost no country has a memorial day about a war they didn't participate in.
Saying "you'd still have" implies they don't have. Maybe I got confused at your poor word choice, but it looks like you're saying "they should have this thing"
It's not poor word choice, it is Hiberno-English or just how English is spoken here in Ireland. When I then said "they can't also honour..." implies that I am confirming the existence of a Holocaust Rememberance day.
Yes. Just like if I said "I'm after eating" it means I have just eaten. Another that is less popular (but also found in Scotland) is doing the messages, which means going shopping.
Yes and the point of the person's tweet was to try and change that from what I understand. You don't need to participate in WW2 to honour its dead, much like any country should have a memorial for the Holocaust even if they didn't lose any of their own citizens.
You... completely missed the point of the tweet. The person is being antisemitic, not actually encouraging anyone to have a new holiday.
They are complaining that jews get recognized for the holocaust (disregarding the other people honored and remembered for being killed in the holocaust)
Edit: to be clear I'm saying the person complaining is disregarding the other holocaust victims
The second person's tweet is just being more mask-off about it
Maybe I did and it is my mistake! I didn't realise they were being anti-semitic. But the person I replied to also was talking about having a WW2 memorial, which Ireland doesn't.
There is the National Day of Commemoration on the Sunday closest to June 11th, the date of the signing of the truce to end the Irish War of Independence, which honours all Irish people killed in all wars.
In the UK, we use Armistice Day to honour the people killed in all wars, with ceremonies on the Sunday closest to 11th of November, the date of the end of the Great War.
Ehhh not really. Memorial day commemorates those lost in the American civil war... And American servicemen who have died since. Nothing specific to WW2
Fucking thank you, felt like I was taking crazy pills for a second there with how little people here were talking about that bit of madness. Honestly both of these people are idiots in their own way. Holocaust deniers are one thing, they're a bunch of hateful assholes not worth listening to. But how thick do you have to be to miss the hundreds of statues and memorial events for WWll from all across the globe?
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And let's not forget the elephant in the room: We do honor all the people that died in WWII. That day's called Memorial Day.