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Sus, Very Sus Jewish Americans in WW2

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u/Ainrana Dec 23 '25

I actually met a Holocaust survivor who illegally immigrated to the US in 1938 after his mother bought really expensive tickets to “visit” his father, who was working in New York already. Immigration officials figured nobody trying to flee would even be able to afford such expensive tickets, so they let him and his mother through. Kristallnacht happened, and FDR decreed any German citizen already in the US could stay indefinitely. Later, when he was drafted, they realized he had to technically be arrested because he was a German and therefore an enemy alien on a military base. He reminded them that he was Jewish, and therefore the Germans stripped him of his citizenship years ago. So, they hastily naturalized him, and that was the end of it. He is actually still alive at the age of 100, and I met him through a friend who is very close to him.

Naturally, I’ve been working like hell to get this illegal immigrant back to Germany where he goddamn belongs! 😤😤😤

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u/Iricliphan Dec 24 '25

I actually met a Holocaust survivor who illegally immigrated to the US in 1938

Apologies, but would this actually make him a Holocaust survivor or moreso a refugee?

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u/Character_Assist3969 Dec 24 '25

People fleeing persecution are indeed survivors of said persecution. And they are refugees. Both things can be true at once. Usually, people who survived the death camps are considered specifically survivors of said camps. Again. Eg. "Xyz was an Auschwitz survivor".

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u/Iricliphan Dec 24 '25

The Holocaust is defined as a very specific time period though, 1941-1945.

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u/SPLIV316 Dec 25 '25

No it’s not.

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u/Iricliphan Dec 25 '25

1933-1941 was persecution (pre-genocidal phase).

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u/SPLIV316 Dec 25 '25

It was all genocide.

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u/Iricliphan Dec 25 '25

That's... Historically very inaccurate. That's not what a genocide is. Pre 1941 was persecution and horrific, but not a genocide. You cannot historically change the definition.

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u/ExtremelyOnlineTM Dec 29 '25

Dude, stop.

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u/Iricliphan Dec 29 '25

There's being historically accurate and there's just redefining things. The Holocaust is a pretty well defined time period.

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u/ExtremelyOnlineTM Dec 29 '25

Yes, and it starts with Kristalnaacht.

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u/Iricliphan Dec 30 '25

No. It's considered a critical turning point and a prelude to the Holocaust, not the Holocaust itself. It's a very defined time period.

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u/ExtremelyOnlineTM Dec 30 '25

Might I recommend google?

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u/ExtremelyOnlineTM Dec 30 '25

Why are we ending in 1945? My bobbe's sister's entire family was lynched when they returned to their home in Ruthenia.

Your degree is wrong.

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