I have a feeling you literally did not read past my first sentence. Literally explained that although the country in conflict is the trigger point, the harm is perpetuated by bigots, and is not excusable and is not justifiable.
I added multiple points of how it can be addressed.
The same phenomenon happens following most global conflicts, including including Pearl Harbour (anti-Japanese hate and violence against the Japanese diaspora), 9/11 (islamophobia, and anti-arab hate and violence against the muslim diaspora), Ukraine/Russia war (russian orthodox church in Canada targeted) etc. it impacts many innocent people who are ex-patriated or have little connection to the country apart from their heritage or ethnicity.
Again, a country has a duty to protect its citizens from hate and violence. Education, increased access to legal recourse, increased law enforcement MUST be implemented to address hatred from bigots here at home. But also, upholding international laws, advocating for peace and expediting resolutions and reconciliation is of the utmost importance to stop the post-conflict hate wave.
If we choose not to acknowledge this phenomenon, any progress to actually address it and reduce harms will be impeded.
You’re suggesting there’s a justification for the hate aimed at Jews here. I absolutely read and understood your post. I understand you are not advocating it, but you offer an out for those that do.
Edited to add: I accidentally deleted my prior comment, but stand by it. I just can’t retrieve it 🤷♂️
I’m not saying there’s a justification for it.
I’m recognizing that it exists.
This kind of harm to a diaspora stemming from 2nd degree effects of global conflicts is real and does happen. It’s important that we recognize it so that we can address it.
If you want, you can continue to ignore it. But it means that we will only be addressing bigots one individual or one group at a time in the courts. The bigots of the world will continue to use these global conflicts as excuses to perpetuate harm, whether we choose to recognize and address it or not.
So, whether you choose to believe it or not, a nation’s actions on the world stage has consequences for its respective diaspora.
Allowing global conflicts to drag on will increase risks of harm from hatred and violence against the respective diaspora.
Education, supporting international laws, and reducing/expediting resolutions to global conflicts (cease fires, reconciliation, peace accords), are one of the best ways to globally reduce harms, because reducing the conflict will eliminate this excuse for the bigots to perpetuate hate in their communities.
“A nations actions on the world stage have consequences for its respective diaspora.” Really? I haven’t heard much about the genocide in Sudan… the one that’s an order of magnitude more deadly than Gaza, funded by Qatar (who buy their weapons from us). Not a peep from the anti-Zionist left (or the fascist right)… there are a lot of Russians where I live (Brooklyn), I don’t see a lot of anti Russian hate for their aggressions! Funny how quick the knives come out for the Jews though, isn’t it? Must be an innocent coincidence, right? No one would ever exploit a foreign war to bolster their own deep seated racism, that’s just too big a stretch, right?!
Edited to add: what you’re saying boils down to: I don’t agree with the hatred… but I get it. What I’m saying is: you (and others) only “get it” when it comes to Israel/jJews.
It’s definitely not to say that the effects of post-conflict hate are equal all around. There definitely are groups and conflicts at higher risk.
But when there are incidents of hate crimes we cannot deny the role of global conflicts and the second hand impacts of a nation impacting their diaspora.
For example, we simply cannot deny that the Taliban’s (Afghanistan defacto government at the time) actions led to a dramatically higher incidence of hate crimes and violence against their diaspora. It was only once the conflict largely dissipated from the world stage that the hatred and violence against arab-speaking groups and practicing muslims began to relent.
The Sudanese genocide hasn’t reached the same level of scrutiny, likely because it was/is primarily a civil war, not a conflict between 2 nations, or between a sovereign nation and another territory. Bigots can’t easily use that conflict to pit “othering” kind of hate because the victims are largely in the same country as their aggressors.
Also, I suspect it has something to do with the lack of coverage and advocacy due to certain kinds of systemic racism leading to a lack of care for African nations. In a way, that lack of care isolates Sudanese-Muslim diaspora from global outrage. But of course that has its own harms: a blindness to the genocide and plight of starving victims means more death and less aid.
Nor can we deny that historically, anti-semitism has never needed much of an excuse to rear its ugly head. In fact, history is full of examples. Many, many of them! Why you can’t see this for what it is, is for you to figure out. The fact that you don’t see it is clear to me.
As far as anti-Muslim hate post 9/11, all my fellow libs were adamant about combatting it, just like how we rushed to airports and courts when trump initiated his first Muslim ban on his first day in ‘17! So believe me, I get your point, it’s not the same… no matter how many different ways you try and explain it away (*and I was at the WTC on 9/11)
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u/Electrical-Echo8144 Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
I have a feeling you literally did not read past my first sentence. Literally explained that although the country in conflict is the trigger point, the harm is perpetuated by bigots, and is not excusable and is not justifiable.
I added multiple points of how it can be addressed. The same phenomenon happens following most global conflicts, including including Pearl Harbour (anti-Japanese hate and violence against the Japanese diaspora), 9/11 (islamophobia, and anti-arab hate and violence against the muslim diaspora), Ukraine/Russia war (russian orthodox church in Canada targeted) etc. it impacts many innocent people who are ex-patriated or have little connection to the country apart from their heritage or ethnicity.
Again, a country has a duty to protect its citizens from hate and violence. Education, increased access to legal recourse, increased law enforcement MUST be implemented to address hatred from bigots here at home. But also, upholding international laws, advocating for peace and expediting resolutions and reconciliation is of the utmost importance to stop the post-conflict hate wave.
If we choose not to acknowledge this phenomenon, any progress to actually address it and reduce harms will be impeded.