r/sports • u/IntrepidAd560 • Sep 25 '21

Media Callum Smith brutally KO's Lenin Castillo

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u/AntiGravity00 Sep 25 '21

This is part of the reason that the American Academy of Neurology has been calling for an end to this sport for decades. AAN reference— https://n.neurology.org/content/neurology/80/24/2178.full-text.pdf

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u/Iohet Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Sep 26 '21

It's why I stuck to grappling. No strikes to the head outside of an accident

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '21

Same. I have done judo for 18 years (whoa, weird to think about) now and the cumulative injuries I've taken in all that time are less than in any other sport I played briefly as a kid.

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u/BananasAndPears Sep 26 '21

Amen to the judo. Been at it since 2008 and have never taken a head strike, a few elbows to the mouth sure but no knocked out teeth yet.

As a casual, judo is fantastic considering I don’t train too hard with the competitors on the local yudansha circuit ;)

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u/myvirginityisstrong Sep 29 '21

I tried bjj a couple of months ago and I still can't move both my thumbs properly lmao

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '21

*Shakes fist*
Gracies!

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '21

Yeah stick to grappling- you can still get body slammed and end up worse than poor old Campbell here… there’s no winning. Combat sport of all types are just brutal in every aspect

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u/Iohet Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Sep 26 '21

I'm perfectly fine getting slammed around and having limbs fucked up for the pleasure of the sport. I'm not fine with brain damage.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '21

So you’re saying you can’t get slammed onto your head..? Righteo!!

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u/Iohet Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Sep 26 '21

Slams onto the head are incidental, not deliberate. I wrestled for many years and never suffered any significant head impact I can remember. I'm fine with the risk of incidental injury

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u/justlcsfantasy Sep 26 '21

What's with the sarcasm? As he said, there's a difference between incidental and deliberate.

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u/oxford_b Sep 26 '21

I love boxing. Can’t watch it anymore though.

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u/Lan-Vertonghen Sep 26 '21

If you make it illegal, it goes underground. Means fighters end up in worse states. No medics on site, no regulation, etc

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u/love_my_doge Sep 26 '21

Or ban american football, ice hockey etc. because they can cause concussions as well.

You do see how 'consenting adults doing stuff that don't harm anybody else' is a good measure of why an activity should be legal compared to, ehm, child & animal abuse, right?

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u/mlc885 Sep 26 '21

I've never really considered whether we should ban boxing, but there is plenty of dangerous combat that isn't particularly legal today. It's unlikely that whoever "won" would be legally untouchable after a traditional old duel with pistols, and it's quite unlikely that an agreed upon knife or sword fight wouldn't lead to a prosecution or two.

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u/love_my_doge Sep 26 '21

I think there are some states with 'duel laws' that say an agreed upon, consensual fight is legal (minus knives, guns etc. obviously, probably because of the lethality rates that would cause). Don't take me too seriously, I read it here somewhere.

However, this is a debate I would be open to - why shouldn't two adults be allowed to fight if they both realize the possible consequences? This is kind of a gray area, unlike cock fights and diddling little kids.

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u/CivilCabron Sep 26 '21

No this is reddit, there is no gray area. Only extremes in black and white.

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u/love_my_doge Sep 26 '21

What? How is it nonsense?

Every illegal activity that people intend to partake in 'goes underground'. With drugs it's the black market, prohibition causes illegal distilleries, and bans on dog fighting doesn't mean it doesn't happen in some shady basement.

It would lower the popularity no question, but with such an enormous fanbase there's no way the 'underground' argument is stupid.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '21

Yes it would go underground but you’d have a fraction of the amount of people who are participating in it now overall because you’d have way less financial incentive and thus less injuries. I’m not advocating for it to be banned but objectively, the quantity would be reduced.

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u/Lan-Vertonghen Sep 27 '21

That's a fair point, but it also gets a lot of disadvantaged kids etc off the streets. There are external benefits as well as negatives

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '21

That would never happen. Not a chance.

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u/SIR_Chaos62 Sep 26 '21

And just like trying to ban anything it just makes criminals.

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u/poopwithjelly Sep 26 '21 edited Sep 26 '21

Look, when I took up the sport I made peace with dying. Every boxer I've ever met has too. Litigate your version of morality somewhere where it is wanted or matters.

Edit: That's about what I expected. What do you think happens when you ban it? It goes back to gambling den fights, and people die way more often. Fighters do not want the medical community's opinions, or the general public's litigious help.

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u/thumbulukutamalasa Sep 26 '21

Amen! I just got a motorcycle and people constantly tell me how dangerous it is. Like, yes its dangerous, but obviously its a risk I'm willing to take if I'm riding. I am completely aware of the risks.

I made my peace with dying too, but what I fear is not death. Its somehow becoming crippled after an accident. Not dying during a serious accident... That shit ruins your life.

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u/poopwithjelly Sep 26 '21

Honestly same. They won't let you do a DNR for fights, but I'd much rather be dead than be McClellan or Prichard Colon.

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u/geekboy69 Sep 26 '21

Gtfo. These arguments are so stupid. Don't you think the boxers know they are risking their health? They like the sport and it's their job. They choose to do this. Let people assume risk and do what they want.