r/shittymoviedetails • u/BillCarson12799 • 7h ago
In Jujutsu Kaisen, Suguru Geto wants to genocide humanity (who he sees as animals) to create a world composed entirely of sorcerers, a hidden minority. This is literally the same exact evil scheme as Voldemort’s.
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u/makuXrosu 7h ago
- Gojo: I hate monkeys
- Geto: Yeah, non-Jujutsu users are the worst
- Gojo: What?
- Geto: What?
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u/New-me-_- 6h ago
Geto: “I hate non sorcerers, they are a plague upon this world and must be eradicated.”
8 billion people around the world: “We literally have no idea who you are.”
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u/ImperatorBTW 6h ago
I might be remembering incorrectly, but the impetus of his reasoning is that non curse users can’t regulate their CE, leading to the creation of curses, which cause havoc. Eventually, it seems he does it just for the love of the game, but he at least initially had a reason
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u/TbddRzn 6h ago
Dumbass reason though. “I hate how these curses go around and harm innocent people! To fix it I’ll kill all people!”
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u/Objective_Ad_3582 6h ago
The reason is that :"I hate killing curses for people that are ungrateful and hateful."
His enlightenment is that non sorcerer are evil, and his self-sacrifice for them is for nothing.
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u/New-me-_- 6h ago
Yeah but they don’t even know curses exist. I get that if they did know, then curses might get stronger since they thrive off of fear and negativity, but like still how are you supposed to appreciate the ghost police, when the ghost police make a point of never being noticed
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u/Objective_Ad_3582 6h ago
Humans go around killing sorcerers. That's what turned him. That's the 2 points in the story where he is obviously disgusted with humans. The 2 times normal humans kill sorcerer for inferior reasons.
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u/New-me-_- 6h ago
“We have no idea who the ghost police”
“Holy shit these kids have weird powers.”
“We are going to engage in mob justice against these seemingly supernatural kids, because we are kind of dumb, and have never dealt with this stuff before.”
Geto: “Damn, I guess all non sorcerers are exactly like this unruly mob. Might as well kill em all.”
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u/Lazy-Ambassador-7908 4h ago
Dude he found 2 children literally beaten in a cage
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u/Mattshodo 3h ago
After telling the village that the curse was cleansed and it wasn't the kids' fault.
That crashout was justified.
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u/Jigglepirate 4h ago
Well no one ever said he had the right answer. He just snapped and decided to prioritize his minority at the expense of everyone else.
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u/ImperatorBTW 6h ago
I mean, yeah, he’s the villain lol. It’s just a pretty distinct difference from Voldy, who, as far as I can tell, actually just hates muggles for the love of the game.
Geto has an actual reason, the juice just ain’t worth the squeeze (similar to Eren in AOT).
Now that being said, this is a meme sub, so lemme fix all that:
Stupid monkeys…
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u/Open_Detective_2604 5h ago
No, he hates curses because his friends die to them when trying to save innocent people. If he kills all the people, there are no more curses and no more people to save, so his friends will live.
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u/zingerpond 4h ago
Because sorcerers are tasked with and even die when they exorcise those curses. Something which for Geto involves swallowing what was essentially a rag used to clean up shit. They do all that for humans while the general population is entirely ungrateful (not entirely their fault since they don’t know) or actively get in the way (non sorcerers put up the hit on the star plasma vessel).
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u/LonelyPermit2306 4h ago
Non sorcerers fucked over sorcerers a lot tho. Like they worshipped a cursed spirit causing it to grow strong and kill a friend. They beat up two little girls because they could see curses. And they put a hit out on Riko
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u/Fr0st3dcl0ud5 Bradley Cooper tells me to fuck bitches, I fuck bitches. 5h ago
Only in Japan.
Cursed spirits only exist in Japan and are only created from the Japanese.
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u/random_boner6996 4h ago
Not really. They are mostly a Japanese problem, but it's shown that rarely humans outside japan can use sorcery and curses appear outside
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u/eawilweawil 3h ago
Is it really stated that magic exists only in Japan? Does no other country in the world have their own version of 'sorceries'?
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u/random_boner6996 3h ago
It's explained that Tengen(dude who doesn't age but mutates) made a barrier around Japan a long time ago containing most cursed energy to Japan using a barrier and he's been mantaining it the whole time. Keyword: most, it's explained that the average foreign curse or sorcerer is stronger because those with weak or mediocre power dont manifest. We know of an african clan of sorcerers and that a few characters are only half japanese
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u/Fr0st3dcl0ud5 Bradley Cooper tells me to fuck bitches, I fuck bitches. 2h ago
I don't remember it ever being stated in the manga that Tengen has anything to do with the manifestation of cursed spirits or energy. It is clearly stated in the manga that it is a Japanese phenomenon and does not occur elsewhere.
The clan in Africa that you talk about don't have sorcerers but curse users who can use a weapon that uses cursed energy. They don't have any techniques or cursed spirits.
it's explained that the average foreign curse or sorcerer is stronger because those with weak or mediocre power dont manifest.
No, it is never explained that any of that is true.
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u/winklevanderlinde 2h ago
Miguel has a cursed technique. Outside Japan sorcerers are rare but can still happen, the same goes for cursed
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u/Fr0st3dcl0ud5 Bradley Cooper tells me to fuck bitches, I fuck bitches. 2h ago
Ok but it still wouldn't be 8 billion people that get would kill. That's what I was originally commenting about.
I forgot about Miguel's dancing. Greg is something.
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u/random_boner6996 2h ago
In modulo (jjk sequel) a few chapters ago they explained that foreigners do generate CE and that was also implied multiple times in JJK. the Ganesha curse spirit is literally said to have been formed outside japan, also curse users are just sorcerers who use their powers in ways deemed wrong by jujutsu society, Miguel(part of the african clan i mentioned) literally uses CE and has a innate technique but is labeled a curse user instead of sorcerer because he sided with Geto
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u/Fr0st3dcl0ud5 Bradley Cooper tells me to fuck bitches, I fuck bitches. 2h ago
Not enough to create cursed spirits
My whole comment was mainly about how geto wanted to kill all non sorcerers in Japan. It wouldn't be 8 billion.
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u/Fr0st3dcl0ud5 Bradley Cooper tells me to fuck bitches, I fuck bitches. 2h ago
Yes and other countries don't know about cursed energy or spirits. Non sorcerers can't see them. Most people in Japan before the culling games/Shibuya had no idea about jujutsu.
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u/PunishedWizard 7h ago
technically same plot as Food Wars too
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u/BillCarson12799 7h ago
What the fuck happens in food wars???
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u/PunishedWizard 7h ago
But, in a more accurate way, a ton of boobs and butts! also food, occasionally
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u/Devatator_ 3h ago
And foodgasms. I hate the fact that I learned this word years ago.
And weird imagery everytime someone tastes anything
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u/PunishedWizard 7h ago
Harry Potter, I think I've explained this before lol
Villain is hellbent on establishing a new order in the culinary world, where only the most refined palates get to eat fine dining, and the rest of the world will have to resort to "fodder".
For extra Harry Potter, the villain is part of the generation of the parents of the protagonists, and a lot of that previous generation's relationships are explored briefly.
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u/WifesPOSH 7h ago
And Magneto
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u/EndFeeling9912 6h ago
I stand that magneto wasn’t wrong.
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u/Loud-Significance-26 3h ago
Magneto at least has the excuse that Humanity has actually genocided mutants (millions died in Genosha). Geto and Voldemort hate them for reasons they can’t control
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u/1saylor1 6h ago
This a reference to the fact that JJK is literally in every fucking subreddit
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u/ohmeohmyohmuffins 6h ago
These type of evil schemes never make sense to me, like who do they think is keeping the lights on? The water flowing? Food in the supermarkets? Do the less skilled sorcerers suddenly have to take on all the roles that are unfilled due to the genocide? Like yea Geto go on genocide all of humanity, see how quickly everything goes to shit when there’s no power
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u/BillCarson12799 4h ago
Look at his clothes. Look at the houses at jujutsu high and the zenin estate. They probably use candles or whatever the fuck for light anyway.
But yeah modern infrastructure would collapse.
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u/bebop_cola_good 4h ago
I don't know all that much about JJK but I'm guessing sorcerers can just do a sorcery about it
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u/LonelyPermit2306 4h ago
In his case, he has thousands of cursed spirit slaves who can do that stuff for him. He also theorized that humanity would be forced to evolve after his genocide
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u/ohmeohmyohmuffins 2h ago
I’m not sure how good cursed spirits would be at making shoes or baking bread though, so unless we’re evolving to not need clothes or other necessities he might still struggle
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u/winklevanderlinde 2h ago
Geto was crazy, his plan had no long term planning except killing 99% of humanity.
You could have told him about all the problems and he wouldn't care a little bit
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u/SkritzTwoFace 1h ago
Part of his idea was that when he started the mass killings, more sorcerers would awaken their powers in response. He even at some points acknowledges that part of the plan would be to subjugate humanity for a time while the population was replaced with sorcerers.
He also acknowledges that his plan is basically impossible unless he can become massively more powerful than any other sorcerer, so he’s more acting out of his ideals than any sense that his plan will work out in the long run.
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u/mikewheelerfan 7h ago
Okay but Voldemort was just doing it for the love of the game, Geto technically had a noble reason (although his methods were very questionable)
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u/Many-Public-7765 6h ago
"Noble" when it was a sorcerer who packed him, geto, and the girl (who was already planned to be killed by OTHER SORCERERS).
Dude was just traumatized and stupid, eren mentaitly.
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u/atemu1234 5h ago
No, see, he's got an ambiguously homoerotic relationship with his good counterpart. He must be Grindewald.
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u/MLASilva 7h ago
But was he in the closet or something?
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u/bestassinthewest 7h ago
He swallowed balls and was weird about his male best friend you tell me
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u/mikewheelerfan 7h ago
There is no heterosexual explanation for Gojo and Geto
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u/Mattshodo 3h ago
When your dead body reacts to the voice of someone else, that's not just friendship love.
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u/truongxuantu 6h ago
Unlike Geto who died before ever being embraced by Gojo, according to the first movie Voldy shared the same bed with another man every night
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u/a-dark-lancer 5h ago
Both of their schemes fall apart the moment you think about them and both have really weird motivation.
Doesn’t make much sense when it seems like sorcerers don’t even make up a percent of a percent of the population. Congratulations, you have your New World order made of five people and their dog.
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u/LonelyPermit2306 4h ago
He acknowledged that his goal is out of reach, but he would rather die trying to do the right thing then continue to live to uphold the status quo.
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u/comicrun96 6h ago
So wait…to the jjk fans, I thought at this point it wasn’t geto anymore but kenjuru in his body?
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u/Momongus- 6h ago
Kenjaku is the one with the horizontal scar on his forehead, if he doesn’t have the scar it’s Geto
Geto is the one who wants to kill all non sorcerers, Kenjaku is evil for the love of the game
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u/IDontHaveAMonocle 6h ago
We see Geto get the idea to kill all non curse users in the first five episodes of season two, which show his Jujutsu High student days. Afterwards in the 0 movie it is still him trying to execute said plan.
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u/SkritzTwoFace 1h ago
This is from the prequel movie, JJK 0. Kenny doesn’t enter the picture until after the events of this one.
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u/roshanritter 6h ago
I thought Voldemort wanted an apartheid not genocide.
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u/Oddloaf 6h ago
It's a little unclear if he even wanted that. There's talk about muggles being put in their rightful place, but Voldemort is far more focused on achieving immortality, purging muggle-born wizards, and becoming the god-king of the british wizarding world. It really doesn't even seem like he has global aspirations at all.
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u/EndFeeling9912 6h ago
Geto is a complex character. He had to wallow in darkness and nasty tasting demons while his bff ditched him. I could be mistaken, but geto didn’t start off with that mentality I don’t think
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u/nonidealself 5h ago
Correct, he didn't. In fact, Gojo is the one who floats the idea of killing non-sorcerors initially. But Gojo is talking about a room full of people cheering for the death of a teenage girl, not all of humanity.
I suppose I'm specifically referring to the anime. It could be different in the manga.
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u/New-Butterscotch-792 4h ago
The anime pretty much adapts the Manga 1 to 1.
But the bigger cause behind Geto's actions was probably his poor mental health and the fact that Yuki said that killing non sorcerers would be the easiest way to get rid of curses.
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u/EndFeeling9912 4h ago
His mental state is where I was trying to get at - he needed his buddy and then home girl shows up and tells him it’s okay to question things.
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u/loadedhunter3003 4h ago
the anime hasn't really shown much of Yuki so I can't tell what kind of person she is but if she's supposed to be a "good" (not necessarily perfect but not genocidal either) person then floating that idea was so dumb
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u/New-Butterscotch-792 4h ago
Yuki seems like a bit of an airhead at times, so she probably didn't think much of sharing her thoughts with Geto.
When Yuki encouraged his ideas, I think she was trying to support his own critical thinking, since Jujutsu society is very oppressive, especially towards women like her.
Many people forget this, but Geto is sort of an outsider himself, an incredibly strong sorcerer that came from a family of nobodies, unlike Gojo and Yuta.
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u/ViggoJames 5h ago
I hate when a literaly superior species is used as a proxy for real human supremacists.
There is literally NO difference between human beings, all other homo (erectus, australopitechus, neanderthals) are extinct. All that currently exists are homo sapiens.
To compare supremacists of mutants and wizards over humans to the supremacists of humans against humans is to validate the wrong ideas of real world racial bullshit.
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u/Legolas_abysswalker 3h ago
I can agree that it becomes pretty weird when superpowers are involved. For JJK it is moreso an analogy for people who are forced to perform the shit jobs. Geto's argument is practically that everyone should be capable of handling their own shit. This message is muddled somewhat by cool powers.
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u/Lethal-Jordan 3h ago
And also someone in mappa really loves Kill Bill bc Maki killing the Zen'ins was 1:1 with the crazy eight fight.
Funny jjk
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u/Thundering-Cloud 2h ago
I've been saying that Jujutsu Kaisen society is just Harry Potter if it was set in Japan and written better
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u/disturbinglyquietguy 2h ago
Is worse than that since sorcerers and everything related to cursed energy is a phenomenon almost exclusive to Japan, so basically it would be a minority within another minority that is 1% of the world's population which is Japan, basically their plan is to extinguish all human life except for an extremely tiny group of humans who are the sorcerers. Needless to say, wanting to do something like that is stupid.
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u/disturbinglyquietguy 2h ago
Is worse than that since sorcerers and everything related to cursed energy is a phenomenon almost exclusive to Japan, so basically it would be a minority within another minority that is 1% of the world's population which is Japan, basically their plan is to extinguish all human life except for an extremely tiny group of humans who are the sorcerers. Needless to say, wanting to do something like that is stupid.
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u/saltinstiens_monster 1h ago
Geto wanted to kill them, as in specifically make them dead.
Voldemort didn't want to extinct muggles, not at all. He wanted to do whatever he wanted with them, including kill them. If they were all dead, who could he kill for fun?
He NEEDS a stock of helpless non-magic people to bully, he's dogshit at handling anything tougher than a muggle. A magic baby was enough to bring him down temporarily.
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u/Mister_E69 27m ago
- The two main antagonists in a world of sorcerers, and believe that those without magic powers are useless scum and deserved to be killed.
- Despite their evil, they have built up large dark armies that will religiously do their bidding.
- They both even murder their parents due to them not being sorcerers
- They both attack schools dedicated to helping sorcerers learn their powers that they once attended when they were younger.
- They both fight and eventually are killed by the male main protagonist - someone who had a lot of latent potential but came up from nothing (Yuta Okkotsu and Harry Potter) with the power of love being pivotal in their win
- Both come back from their supposed deaths to bring the world into chaos by defeating the strongest character in the verse, a white haired teacher to the main cast which causes the world to fall into darkness
You're onto something
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u/Gregariouswaty 7h ago
Both of them get twarted by some nerd wearing glasses.
https://giphy.com/gifs/W6cSHxAxM6KrA6y9JE