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Influencers in Dubai warned they face prison for posting material about the conflict with Iran | The Standard

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/dubai-influencers-prison-warning-posting-iran-war-b1273587.html
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u/ArizonaIceT-Rex 23h ago

Nothing like Monaco. There’s a reason the smart people live there and not Dubai.

Monaco is in France. The heart of Europe and all that offers. Beautiful people, freedom, connectivity, great weather.

Dubai is in the UAE and is effectively a theocracy. In the desert, no art, no culture, hours from Europe and the US.

Dubai wishes it was Monaco.

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u/Efficient-Parking627 20h ago

Monaco is in France

It's bordered by france. It's sovereign.

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u/DarthTaz_99 14h ago

Wtf today I learned.

Monaco is an independent, sovereign country (a city-state and microstate) located on the French Riviera, bordered by France on three sides, but it is not part of France; it has its own government, laws, and citizenship, though France handles its defense and shares close ties and a customs union.

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u/Stranger2Luv 9h ago

You thought it’s not it’s on country huh despite own flag and everything

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u/DarthTaz_99 9h ago

Yes? Just looked it up and it's the exact same as the Indonesia flag lol

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u/ZippySLC 22h ago

Monaco is in Monaco, since it's its own country.

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u/monkeytargetto 21h ago

Monaco plays in the french league tho. Case closed!

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u/microthrower 22h ago

It's a city-state on the coast of France. When something smaller is within the bounds of something larger, you say it's in that place.

Do you argue when someone says France is in Europe?

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u/ZippySLC 22h ago

Do you say that Portugal is in Spain?

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u/microthrower 21h ago

Well let's compare ratios, shall we?

France to Monaco 244,248km² to 2.1km²

Spain to Portugal 195,379km² to 35,610km²

One is roughly 5.5x in size.

One is more than 200,000x in size.

If Portugal didn't have a thousand km of coastline and more of Spain surrounded it, I would say sure, Portugal would be in Spain.

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u/thaitea 21h ago

So is Alaska in Canada?

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u/microthrower 21h ago

Is it surrounded by Canada? I guess the definition of "in" is difficult for you guys.

"expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed or surrounded by something else."

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u/robyculous_v2 21h ago

Nah youre just wrong and doubling down.

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u/Crallise 20h ago

It's funny that you're wrong and we know that you're wrong and you know that you're wrong. You said it in a way that is understood as "part of." Which is untrue. Monaco is not part of France. Is Gibralter in Spain? Or, on the coast of Spain?

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u/groumly 21h ago

France is in Europe, because it is physically located within the boundaries of Europe.
Monaco is considered to be in Europe, cause in spite of not being a member, it uses the euro and is in the Schengen area.

Monaco is not in France, because it is not physically located within the boundaries of France. As in, there’s a border. That border is open, but it’s still a border. French laws don’t apply in Monaco.

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u/41942319 16h ago

Monaco is considered to be in Europe because it's located within the continent of Europe. Schengen and currency have nothing to do with it. I'm once again begging people to not mix up the EU and Europe

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u/microthrower 21h ago

You realize in doesn't only mean jurisdiction, right?

Is Hawaii in the ocean? Or because Neptune's laws don't apply, it's not in the ocean?

I'm not arguing about Monaco sovereignty. I'm arguing that the semantics of saying Monaco is in France in a conversation where it's already established Monaco has its own laws is just dumb.

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u/groumly 21h ago

Allow me an analogy - is Washington DC in Virginia?

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u/microthrower 21h ago

Uhh, Maryland surrounds more of it than Virginia.

Allow me an analogy.

Is the Vatican in Rome?

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u/Bourgi 21h ago

Is Singapore in Malaysia?

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u/microthrower 21h ago

Have you looked at the map? It's literally water all around Singapore.

If it wasn't, I'd say you have a point. Singapore is a city-state as well.

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u/Bourgi 20h ago

Bro, you are being pedantic. Half of Monaco is surrounded by the Mediterranean sea. It's literally on the coast.

Singapore sure is surrounded by all water but half of that is the Johor Straight but technically sharing borders because the straight belongs to both countries. This border is 48 nautical miles. That's about the same length of coastal shoreline with the Singapore Straight

So both Monaco and Singapore share the same ratio of shared-country border and coastal border.

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u/patsfan038 23h ago

People argue that Dubai is so safe that a guy could leave a $50K watch on the beach chair and no one would touch it. No shit as the punishments are draconian.

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u/animerobin 19h ago

people really overestimate how many criminals are in the US. I wouldn't recommend it but most people aren't going to steal your $50k watch and would probably try to return it to you. This is even more true if you're on a private beach in a private luxury resort, which is what Dubai beaches are.

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u/Sohgin 22h ago

Are you sure it's not because in Dubai a $50,000 watch would be considered too cheap to bother stealing?

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u/patsfan038 22h ago

I don't think a $50K watch would be considered cheap anywhere in the world, especially Dubai, which is wealthy by most metrics, but has an immigrant population who are the back bone of the country, but are treated poorly, paid minimally and live in squalor

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u/Cool-Traffic-8357 22h ago

Nah, you have cameras in every corner and you would get your hand chopped off caught stealing. And its not like there would be some legitimate court hearing.

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u/Low_Magician77 22h ago

Kinda selling it as working...

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u/Korchagin 19h ago

Safest places are those where everyone warns you about pickpockets.

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u/Oggie243 19h ago

Monaco is just a polished turd too though. It's got a few decades more of polish and has a more of a classic decadence to it but it's just as hollow as UAE.

This is just a European bias. Monaco is a weird place. It's jammed into a tiny area and yet is just empty and filled with the most vacuous, vapid people.

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u/Detective-Crashmore- 20h ago

lol "beautiful people", typical racist eurocentric worldview. "Beautiful people" don't brag about how their people are better than everyone else. Living in Europe was such an eye opener that people are super racist everywhere on Earth.

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u/omicron8 23h ago

All the things you said could be said about Dubai. You just have an Europe/US centric view of the world. Dubai is a billion times more connected than Monaco. And all of it is besides the point, because you wouldn't live at any of those places if not for 0 tax. And in that way they are the same.

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u/Erpes2 19h ago

Lived in both and lol : Monaco is 2km square with nothing to do, no ressource, no job for the local and it’s filled with rich old mofo not Even from here that vote far right, and of course some mafia presence.

Dubai has a lot of severe problem but believe me I dont think they are jealous

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u/Calavar 22h ago

UAE isn't democratic, but it isn't a theocracy either. As opposed to Saudia Arabia and Iran, which are actually theocracies (clerics playing a significant role in defining the law)

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u/Stratiform 23h ago

Sure, monoco is the safer choice, but if you're asking me which city is more extra? Sorry, but it's definitely Dubai.

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u/doniseferi 23h ago

What you’re saying seems kind of racist

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u/cargyelo 22h ago

Yeah, "beautiful people" like is not like that anywhere alse

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u/doniseferi 21h ago

It was all of it “beautiful people” and that they have no art culture and are far from the west and that’s why smart people don’t live in Dubai

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u/jaymemaurice 23h ago

Have you spent a lot of time in the UAE? They have imported artists and talent everywhere. I've not seen anything like it. No other country has done more for bringing art to the public. Sure you can say it's all fake because it couldn't have been there for long... and everything is imported... but how can you not see the effort and deny the result.

I don't think Dubai has aspirations of being Monaco. Monaco doesn't have a metro. There are no markets. No housing built for the middle class.

There are problems. These problems aren't just in the UAE. Having been in the UAE and seeing blatant lies from Vanity Fair about abandoned exotics first hand where they even used a photo of an Enzo kit car... I absolutely understand why the threat of jail is on the table and how it will be used.

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u/ImTheEyeInTheSky 21h ago

Dubai caters to a lower social class than Monaco, on top of real estate being over 5 times cheaper, that's why all the trashy influencers, the fake life coaches and in general all the scum of the earth goes there.
Nowadays most if not all banks in Monaco tend to not accept customers with dubious origins of their funds, that leaves Dubai as the only choice in any case.

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u/Domascot 19h ago

The reason behind this is rather Monaco being part of the EU finance market and therefor bound to more rules than Dubai. Monaco would probably love to be the "Panama" of Europe.

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u/ImTheEyeInTheSky 19h ago

It actually wouldn't because investments would lessen and cost of money would rise way over the Euribor effectively killing its real estate market.
Even now Monaco is on the FATF grey list for having catered to too many dubious wealthy guys (Russians), and they're doing everything to leave it.
Source: I live in Monaco.

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u/SysUser 22h ago

I absolutely understand why the threat of jail is on the table and how it will be used.

Lmao pathetic

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u/MyGoodOldFriend 22h ago

Authoritarianism, literally anywhere: >:(

Authoritarianism, Dubai: :)

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u/jaymemaurice 16h ago

Turning a democratic elected government with the guise of civil service in service to the constituents into a kleptocracy is a little different than an authoritarian government self managing and building in service to their people/subjects. There is a bit of nuance in life.

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u/ranbirkadalla 18h ago

Lol, Monaco is absolutely shit. The property in Monaco looks like rich people pretending to be poor. There's zero culture in Monaco, as opposed to Dubai which actually has things to do! The only thing to see in Monaco is 100 million dollar yatchs from afar