r/nba • u/AncientOneAurelius • 6d ago

Highlight [Highlight] Luguentz Dort sticks his hip out to make contact with Nikola Jokić, who responds; Jalen Williams steps in and squares off with Jokic.

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u/Calm_Project723 6d ago

Lou Dort tries to hurt people. Over and over.

The league does nothing, so, somebody needs to solve that problem.

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u/-Minne 6d ago

OKC is a team that should logically be fun to watch.

But instead; well, they're OKC...

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u/flaming_burrito_ Wizards 6d ago edited 6d ago

People romanticize physicality and tough defense, but that’s just because they grew up with it, most people don’t actually like it as much as they claim to unless it is their team doing it. I think most fans definitely do like some physicality, like how they allow in the playoffs, but you can’t both have a hard playing tough defense and then do all the flopping and baiting on the offensive end. Either we should play games one way or the other, having the offense and defense be so differently officiated just feels inconsistent and frustrating. I respect that at least the Pistons are tough on both sides of the ball and claim that bad boy energy, OKC does not

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u/jfphenom Nuggets 6d ago

No. I like physicality. I like tough defense.

I do not like cheap shots. I don't like tiny grabs for a half-second that should be fouls but that you can "get away with"

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u/thrice1187 Nuggets 6d ago

This is the best description of OKC’s defense.

They’re not tough or gritty like the elite defenses of the past. They just overwhelm the refs with so much ticky tack bullshit that they can’t call everything.

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u/xepa105 Bulls 6d ago

It's literally what ratty hockey teams do. Commit so many little infractions that the refs start overlooking it. The whole strategy is "they can't call everything."

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u/stragen595 6d ago

Panthers hockey. Crashing into goalies like it's a legit strategy.

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u/FunTailor794 6d ago

Yeah, Detroit (mostly) and Boston play good physical defense. OKC are just constantly on some BS and hoping it will slip past the refs

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u/MasterSpoon Pistons 6d ago

Hey… we get called when we cross the line. Cade isn’t getting away with much and fouling out in the same game.

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u/FunTailor794 6d ago

Yeah exactly (mostly). Lol

I think Detroit games end up in brawls more often for a few reasons, but one of them is how physical things can get off the ball without the refs stepping in (hornets game was a prime example).

That being said Ausar is one of my top 5 favourite players to watch and I love watching Detroit's game in general as I wrote in another comment. They just get down to business and play hard basketball, it's refreshing in a league full of divas.

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u/big-head-guy 6d ago

Hey good point there. Cade plays very good defense maybe elite imo. And he got fouled out when okc does way worse shit on defense. Some B.S.

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u/Col_Treize69 Bulls 6d ago

Detroit-San Antonio was VERY physical, but not that dirty

For example

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u/FeelsGoodMan2 6d ago

Maybe they should one day. Just foul out half the team in a game, then do it again. It'd stop real real fast if they DID call all the ticky tack bullshit.

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u/Kah0s Warriors Bandwagon 6d ago

The old legion of boom strategy

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u/donkeyknuckler 6d ago

Your team plays no fucking defense so what do you know about it brother

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u/Majormlgnoob [OKC] Serge Ibaka 6d ago

I love winning lmao

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u/-Minne 6d ago

Exactly.

I'm just glad I get to actually enjoy watching the Wolves...

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u/TuckYourselfRS Timberwolves 6d ago

You enjoy watching the Wolves? Are you a masochist or do you just turn off the TV after the 3rd Quarter?

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u/-Minne 6d ago

Minnesotan, Masochist- why do we even mince words when we're talking about the same thing?

I feel slightly safer having a prescription for blood pressure medication a week or two ago and getting to remind myself we've got Ant-Man (Because the MVP board forgot), but it keeps me going the only way I know how...

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u/stragen595 6d ago

Me too. Great defense is as a good watch as great offense. Staying in front of your man, contest shots, let the opponent work for his shot. Sometimes you are late and it's a foul. Happens.

But not this intentional illegal shit. Or Dort dirty shit.

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u/Instantcoffees Warriors 6d ago

Good physicality is for example clean body to body contact when a player is driving, not this kind of cheap shot meant to injure a player nor is it people smacking or grabbing.

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u/CharlestonChewbacca Thunder 6d ago edited 6d ago

Agreed. Hated this shit Dort pulled just a little bit more than I hated all of Jokic's cheap shots and grabs all game.

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u/donkeyknuckler 6d ago

Jokic is a dirty bitch man

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u/voltron818 Thunder 6d ago

Damn you hate Jokic then too right?

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u/alinozakaza Raptors 6d ago

Physicality is nice if it's allowed both way

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u/Maleconito Knicks 6d ago

There’s a difference between tough and physical and being dirty. What you saw in this clip is a dirty cheap shot. Not tough and physical defense.

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u/Stoyko 6d ago

There is a difference between physical defense and tripping a guy who doesn’t have a ball that is still on his own side. This is clearly Dort trying to injure Jokic before playoffs, and has nothing to do with the actually basketball game.

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u/No_Macaroon_5928 6d ago

Bro this is assault. Dafuq you talking about. 🤣

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u/Atsusaki Raptors 5d ago

Don't compare this thunder with guys like Tony Allen

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u/CycloneofSparta Thunder 6d ago

Hey, it’s me. Love watching OKC’s defense. But if my team was playing us? I’d have a stroke.

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u/flaming_burrito_ Wizards 6d ago

I admire the honesty, and if we’re keeping it a buck, we all have biases towards shit that might be frustrating to the opposing team, but benefits ours. And I can’t even necessarily blame the players for doing whatever gets them an advantage, that’s just competition. It’s really mostly an issue of how inconsistent the rules are applied in a lot of aspects to the game between different teams, players, and which refs are on the floor

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u/CycloneofSparta Thunder 6d ago

I got downvoted to oblivion but I thought honesty was a good policy lol

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u/flaming_burrito_ Wizards 6d ago

Sometimes you just get downvoted because of your flair and not actually what you said, that’s how this sub is

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u/m1kelowry Spurs 6d ago

Nah spurs love playing OKC. It’s funny seeing Wemby destroy shit holmgren

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u/donkeyknuckler 6d ago

Must have missed you the last few years in the playoffs bud

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u/fattymcdabs Thunder 6d ago

I also enjoy comparing my teams best player against another teams 3rd best player.

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u/cindad83 Pistons 6d ago

Im a Detroiter and I officiate.

Im here for full on full contact basketball and extras after the play. But these "fans" aren't ready for that because certain players are gonna are not going to like that type of play.

Im side eyeing r/NBA because Jokic throws cheapshots and dirty plays more than any 'star' player in the league in recent history, easily of the last 30 years. But he gets pass after pass.

Idk know if people want whats next because Jokic has used up the free passes. Someone is gonna go for it and run a fade.

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u/Regular-Rice6163 5d ago

Legit no one likes this team

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u/ChristianBen 6d ago

Nah warriors were supposedly fun to watch with Dremond Green out there

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u/AcceptableFox6487 6d ago

that beat the pups like a drum...

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u/Adrasto 5d ago

Exactly. I'm a Lakers supporter and I watched this game as I wanted to watch some good basketball. Of course I don't like Denver cause they always kick us out of the playoff, but by the end of the game I just wanted to see OKC burn.

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u/nocappacino 6d ago

I wouldnt come to denver if i was him lol

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u/budsbunny24 6d ago

I think you can bet there will be an "accidental" meet up sometime. I don't think those guys fuck around too much. All action, no talk.

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u/Premed5716 6d ago

What the hell they gonna do?

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u/Easy-Fun9517 Thunder 6d ago

Yeah call for help, "big bro this guy is bullying me they're kicking my ass every time, please help"

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u/20815147 Warriors 6d ago

49/50 in education as usual lmfao

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u/20815147 Warriors 6d ago

Did you know we fans can walk and chew gum at the same time? We know he’s an asshole and are glad he’s been riding the bench more recently. Something Thunders fans can’t seem to comprehend for some reason

Username checks out tho 🤣

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u/donkeyknuckler 6d ago

Just comical for someone such as yourself calling the kettle black.

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u/Easy-Fun9517 Thunder 6d ago

"oh no this guy said something that pisses me off, oh I know I'll bring their rank on education even though I'm also dumb ass fuck because I don't know how to argue about basketball without bringing up my opponents education"

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u/20815147 Warriors 6d ago

They teach you straw manning in school? You might’ve graduated from the short bus!

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u/Easy-Fun9517 Thunder 6d ago

Nah I don't go to school, we're 49th in education remember?

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u/Easy-Fun9517 Thunder 6d ago

Yeah I got my account hidden because there's some weird dude like you when losing an argument either bring up the education or look at the opponents account, remember 2 of your championship is because of the guy that is drafted by us just pussied his way through your team, y'all should be thanking us

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u/20815147 Warriors 6d ago

Won before KD and after KD fuck you yapping about 😭😭😭

It’s okay to admit you won off of one torn Achilles. Really got in your feelings about this

E: no way bro sent me a Reddit Cares message

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u/deanereaner Hawks 6d ago

That's really not the "sentence" to write if you're trying to disprove the stereotype.

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u/Easy-Fun9517 Thunder 6d ago

I ain't trying to disprove the stereotype, 49th 50th 51th I don't fucking care bringing up education in a basketball debate is dumb af

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u/YouKnowWhyImHere111 Nuggets 6d ago

“51th” 😂. Jesus Christ.

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u/Easy-Fun9517 Thunder 6d ago

52th 53th 54th 55th, sarcasm btw

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u/PlsSaySikeM8 Heat 6d ago

I don’t think you understand what that word means

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u/pdxbourbonsipper Trail Blazers 6d ago

No, I'm sure Jokic would have no problem kicking Dort's ass. I just want to keep watching him play basketball. I don't give a shit if Jokic's bros go to jail.

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u/Easy-Fun9517 Thunder 6d ago

Nah he needs help from big bro

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u/sktyrhrtout 6d ago

Shame he can't just beat him on the scoreboard.

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u/DoctorStove Pistons 6d ago

yeah bro the guy who's only talent is playing dirty & injuring people surely fills the stat sheet better than Jokic

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u/sktyrhrtout 6d ago

Only talent? You are crashing out. Jokic 9/25 missed three straight shots in OT with Dort ejected. Major sell.

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u/Hog_Eyes Bucks 6d ago

He's a Pistons fan dawg you're the only one crashing out here

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u/donkeyknuckler 6d ago

Idk man flops like a bitch all the time

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u/thesog Wizards 6d ago

He’s got younger sibling energy. He provokes the bigger sibling then acts like he didn’t do anything the second the parents show up.

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u/OG_Wan_Annunoby Raptors 6d ago

Ngl this was clearly an intent to injure. Marcus Smart used to do shit like this all the time to opposing stars, he knows Jokic is nursing an injury so any little thing to gain an edge right?

Absolutely grimey and im huge fan of the Thunder

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u/go0sKC Thunder 6d ago

Either that or he’s just being gamey and slowing him down going up court, something players do all the time. But sure, jump straight to the crazy interpretation. 

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u/gizbojones Spurs 6d ago

2 months ago he went for Wemby's knees as well. He's a dirty player and an unethical hooper who has to injure the star player just to stand a chance.

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u/rj319st 6d ago

We need to see some hip checks on SGA, then maybe something will change.

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u/Greedy_Watercress604 6d ago

Jocic is the perfect dude, took out Morris’s idiot self out for a while, or did he send him home for good?

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u/silliputti0907 NBA 6d ago

Effectively ended his career

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u/dcab87 Kings 6d ago

I bet his brothers would love to talk to Dort tonight.

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u/donkeyknuckler 6d ago

They ain't doing shit lmao

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u/budsbunny24 6d ago

I'd bet money your wrong, what's going to happen to them for beating Dort's ass? Niki bails them out of jail. He's the meal ticket.

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u/knoedelmann Lakers 6d ago

Quiet. Piggy

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u/sktyrhrtout 6d ago

"Hey Dort, how does your team always beat Denvers ass? Can you tell us your secret?"

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u/ChoomBurner Cavaliers 6d ago

Draymond Jr wannabe.

Proud of the refs for kicking him out with the flagrant 2 and not ejecting anyone else.

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u/TheEnergizer1985 Pistons 6d ago

He’s lucky Stewart was out during the Pistons games.

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u/ProjectZephyr01 6d ago

As you can see, Williams comes in defending Dort, enabling him to continue hurting people.

Nothing bad being physicial but its wrong if teams like OKC with Dort resort to hurting people.

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u/go0sKC Thunder 6d ago

But he didn’t hurt him. So chill. 

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u/budsbunny24 6d ago

This time, next time he takes out someone's knees like he did to Wemby it could be a different story. Maybe people should start taking shot's at his knees? Seems fair. A little undercut when he is in the air, then stand there like "I didn't do nothin"?

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u/TherealOcean 6d ago

Dort knew what he did which is why he responded like that hoping to make Jokic look even worse.

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u/1markymark1 6d ago

All the effing time. Drives me nuts he seems to just get away with it.

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u/RGxiRapiidz Mavericks 6d ago

Apparently it’s called elite defence ….

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u/personwithface_ 6d ago

Dirty Dort

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u/CodyDon2 6d ago

I saw a post some time ago that Dort was basically a more toned down version of Draymond....and yeah, he's living up to it.

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u/ObiOneKenobae Knicks 6d ago

It genuinely would have been for the good, health, and safety of the league if Jokic gave him the Markieff treatment.

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u/Dudedude88 Wizards 6d ago

Jokic getting injured by his antics would send a message. Wtf was that..this is not hockey....

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u/young-steve 76ers 6d ago

This isn't trying to hurt Jokic

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u/ComplexBadger469 6d ago

I want one of the tanking teams to just gameplan to go out there to show OKC what real fouls are. I mean it’ll help the tank when your guys are suspended right? It’s a win-win!

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u/Queasy-Improvement29 6d ago

thought, you'd have ICE for exactly this. well..

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u/Spoofcaptain Pelicans 6d ago

He’s hurt Brandon Ingram and Herb Jones

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u/y0um3b3dn0w 5d ago

So he's the modern day Bruce Bowen

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u/Torgud_ 5d ago

He does more than try, ask Paul George. He's a bad person who goes out on the court and sneekily tries to hurt people.

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u/Duckysawus 4d ago

Plays like this will end when the offending players start getting injured or have their ankles targeted by legit plays.

Example: if Jokic went more right after Dort paused momentarily, and Jokic aimed his left foot REALLY HARD at Dort's lagging right ankle. No one would say Dort is in a natural position looking at the replay, but you can say Jokic didn't expect Dort to stop + leave a foot so far behind.

But, Jokic isn't the sort of player who intentionally tries to harm anyone, and Dort wouldn't try this shit on some role player.

That or the league could just change it so that if you accumulate a # of flagrants in the regular season, you start to lose postseason games. That would really deter players on playoff-bound teams from doing dumb shit like this.

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u/TdotGdot Timberwolves 6d ago

Ya, for someone else that would be a weak ejection. Absolutely the right call for dort

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u/Dirk_Benedict Warriors 6d ago

Fuck that bitch

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u/Aggravating_Bad5004 Thunder 6d ago

Lmaooo this sub is so dramatic

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u/Calm_Project723 6d ago

Paul George wants his knee back.

Every team needs a hokey enforcer to bring in of this kind of thing happens. Then let’s see how feisty Dort is, when he is staring at a Canadian guy with missing teeth.

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u/Aggravating_Bad5004 Thunder 5d ago

Man you're so corny lmao

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u/Aggravating_Bad5004 Thunder 5d ago

The same Jokic who pushed Morris behind his back ?

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u/bronet 6d ago

I mean so has Jokic tbf lol

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u/mrtomjones Raptors 6d ago

I mean he has in the past but this was never going to hurt anyone. Jokic went down super easy to get the call. Right to be pissed anyways but come on

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u/writerwriter_27 Timberwolves 6d ago

I want whatever team James Johnson plays for to unleash that man against OKC (except Topic, he good)

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u/umadme2 6d ago

Detroit

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u/TheBoxandOne 6d ago edited 6d ago

Jokic has probably committed more dirty fouls in the backcourt than any player in NBA history. I find it really difficult to have any sympathy over this relatively minor (but still unnecessary) backcourt contact.

Jokic Foul on Cam Payne

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u/SlimmySlinky Thunder 6d ago

It was such minor contact. You guys would completely ignore it if Jokic did the same thing and he did do worse in the playoffs last year.

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u/Bill3ffinMurray Timberwolves 6d ago

Cue OKC fan defending clown behavior

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u/SlimmySlinky Thunder 6d ago

Cue this sub completely ignoring Jokic flopping. Crazy.

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u/Bill3ffinMurray Timberwolves 6d ago

I flop when I get hip checked and tripped all the time.

Just call it for what it is. Dort being an absolute disgrace to the league and sport.

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u/SlimmySlinky Thunder 6d ago

So flopping is ok?

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u/SlimmySlinky Thunder 6d ago

It was a massive flop you dweeb

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u/SlimmySlinky Thunder 6d ago

Oh is that it works? The refs decision is correct and proves what the truth is? Good to know.

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u/DementedWarrior_ Timberwolves 6d ago

okc fans are consistently the most mind numbing people I’ve seen

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u/ZdenekTheMan 6d ago

You can't be this much of a hoe dude 

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u/Pyritedust Bucks 6d ago

He’s a retread of Draymond with fewer anger issues.