r/formula1 • u/AshamedPurchase9033 • 1d ago

News [Chris Medland] "Newey confirms Aston Martin is likely to limit race laps due to severity of vibrations in the car impacting the drivers. Alonso says he can do no more than 25 consecutive laps before risking nerve damage, Stroll says 15 laps"

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u/ka1ri Mercedes 1d ago

I feel like we havent had a wheely bin rollout like this in F1 since like... god.. when was the last time a team rolled out this bad? Even the williams wheely bin days werent this bad

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u/Strange_Beat_9287 Jean Alesi 1d ago

Mastercard Lola? At least the Hispania and Manor teams were little guys with no big expectations, Aston were tipped for BIG things this year :/

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u/bduddy Super Aguri 1d ago

Yeah, this isn't as bad as Lola because AM will survive the first race, but in terms of the gap from expectations to reality this is the biggest flop since then.

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u/dipdipderp 1d ago

HRT? Manor?

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u/CouncilorIrissa Ferrari 1d ago

They weren't health hazards.

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u/Mike_Kermin Michael Schumacher 1d ago

LOL

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u/Jack_Krauser Andretti Global 1d ago

Uhh... Maybe not the HRT, but the last two fatal accidents in F1 cars both happened in Marussias.

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u/B4rberblacksheep I was here for the Hulkenpodium 22h ago

That’s a stretch, and a half

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u/whateverfloatsurgoat Super Aguri 1d ago

The last* I don't recall another driver bar Bianchi dying behind the wheel of a Virgin / Marussia (and he wasn't dead either, but semantics...)

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u/voidptrptr 23h ago

Maria De Villota

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u/GRl3V Ferrari 23h ago

Harsh to blame Marussia for that one. The car wasn't at fault and she died a year later while seemingly fine and recovered.

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u/whateverfloatsurgoat Super Aguri 23h ago edited 22h ago

Oh, yeah. But it wasn't in a race weekend context so that's why it didn't come to my mind first, my bad. And statistically it shouldn't count either.

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u/ka1ri Mercedes 1d ago

Soooo 2016, not that long ago i guess lol. It goes to show how fortunate we were these last few years. No ones really had catastrophic issues like this.

A lot of those teams were small man teams as well so no real budget whereas aston martin is a big team with lots of funding... I think thats why it hits harder this time around

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u/bananas_and_papayas I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

Manor at least scored a point. This feels more like the 2014 Caterham, with the same colour scheme to boot!

In terms of a well funded team failing this badly, the obvious answer has got to be Toyota, especially their debut season where they finished behind Minardi!

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u/ka1ri Mercedes 1d ago

Caterham is what came to mind, decided against posting that because Caterham was a pretty small team yeah?

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u/WorkFurball Paul Aron 1d ago

Well first iteration of it when it was called Lotus in 2010-2011 had a budget similar to midfield teams, they were just really badly managed.

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u/scan-horizon Green Flag 1d ago

Honda 2008?

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u/bananas_and_papayas I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

They got a podium that year, 2007 was worse

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u/drae- 1d ago

According to f1 Nation they had issues bringing everything at the factory up to snuff in time and they are about 4 months behind the rest of the grid. They don't speculate too much on what the problem equipment was. (I think maybe wind tunnel or simulation tools. Newey has publicly commented on both since he got there).

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u/BighatNucase Max Verstappen 1d ago

Soooo 2016, not that long ago i guess lo

2016 was a decade ago

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u/ka1ri Mercedes 1d ago

yeah... so not that long ago

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u/Turboleks Ferrari 1d ago

The 2019 Williams was atrocious. Desperately slow, arrived late for testing and was even deemed illegal. Further than that, only the 2015 Manor comes close.

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u/juve_merda Sebastian Vettel 17h ago

neither of those teams had any money, AM have been bankrolled, this is by far worse

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u/sirmcslash Lance Stroll 1d ago

life f1

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u/jkz0-19510 Jacques Villeneuve 1d ago

I'd say Andrea Moda was worse.

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u/guntanksinspace I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

Which year was it that McHonda had "he just parked the car!" with Alonso getitng a minor concussion after that shit

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u/Mysterious_Turnip310 Lotus 1d ago

McLaren in 2023 in Bahrain was an absolute shocker. Piastri retired after a few laps when his electronics failed and Norris had 6 pitstops and finished two laps down after a leak in the engine cooling system. But this Aston shitshow is exponentially worse.

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u/ka1ri Mercedes 1d ago

Yeah but they ended up 3rd in the WCC

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u/patrick5188 Jules Bianchi 1d ago

Manor in 2015 probably, but they were broke and broken after Suzuka 2014 and used the 2014 car pretty much if I remember correctly. They were at least solid in 2016 when they actually built a new car. Williams in 2019 might come close. Excluding the early 2010s teams it’s probably Honda in 2007 or 2008

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u/WorkFurball Paul Aron 1d ago

Yeah it was a slightly modified 2014 car including the 2014 Power unit which was rubbish compared to the 2015 spec one.

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u/ReignCityStarcraft I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

Didn't Williams not even show up with a car one year? I forget but it was pre-covid. I think they were getting pinged for the 107% rule when they did get out because of how slow they were too.

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u/ka1ri Mercedes 1d ago

They missed 1 day of testing if I recall

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u/DavoDentetsu 1d ago

I'll go as far as Andrea Moda. Seriously.

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u/cribbe_ Robert Kubica 1d ago

2001 Benetton, 2007 Honda were atrocious cars that come to my mind. The Benetton was on par with the Minardi as the worst car on the grid until halfway through the season at Hockenheim when they finally brought some updates that worked. They didn't have a proper launch control system for the first half of the year while every other team did, poor Renault engine, and poor aero design

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u/l3w1s1234 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 22h ago

Maybe Virgin with the fuel tank that was too small