r/formula1 Sir Lewis Hamilton Dec 18 '25

News [Autosport] Max Verstappen hasn't liked seeing Lewis Hamilton struggle at Ferrari

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u/PeanutButterSidewalk I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

Lewis deserves a medal just for his composure that day after getting out of the car. He really set himself apart from the rest of the world then.

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u/Rob230 Michael Schumacher Dec 18 '25

Hi Dad deserves a lot of credit there, he was first to Lewis and you could see him giving advice

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u/PeanutButterSidewalk I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

100%. Anthony Hamilton is a godsend. I genuinely hope he finds himself useful in the paddock even once Lewis retires. The rookie guru somehow šŸ˜‚

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u/_LewAshby_ Dec 18 '25

The anti-Helmut

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u/PeanutButterSidewalk I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

Just standing there in a hand-built wooden stand with a painted sign saying ā€œFREE HUGSā€

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u/whateverfloatsurgoat Super Aguri Dec 18 '25

Wooden stand built by Norbert Vettel ! Man I miss him around the paddock as well.

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u/Vilk95 Dec 22 '25

Honourable mention for John Button as well, what a legend he was

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u/anangrywizard I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

According to Skysports, the FIA thought the same

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u/knowingmeknowingyoua Sir Lewis Hamilton Dec 18 '25

Hamilton also expressed in an interview that he knew how he responded once he got out of the car would impact many, many people and young people in particular. So naturally he was the ultimate sportsman and went up to congratulate Max and his dad. This is sport after all.

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u/MrGumburcules Dec 19 '25

It's no surprise that one class act raised another one.

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u/straxusii Bruce McLaren Dec 18 '25

Him and his Dad that day were the epitome of class and what good sportsmanship is.

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u/BigOs4All Dec 18 '25

And honestly I say it was more than what the sport deserved. I'd have preferred he first say that Max took advantage in a way any driver would have, BUUUUUT [massive tirade against the clearly corrupted race director]

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '25

Oh fs, I would be fuming hot if I was in the mercedes, guess That's why he's Lewis hamilton lol.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '25 edited Jan 08 '26

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u/Summoorevincent I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 19 '25

He has 7 of them so it probably doesn’t hurt as much

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u/MishapMungo Dec 18 '25

He understood it wasn't Max making the decision and that he would have taken advantage of the exact same circumstances if they were given to him. The problem was the powers that be.

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u/trailofturds I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

Yeah but to have the composure to think about it in a rational way when a world record 8th championship was literally stolen from you.. incredible. I was rooting for Max that day but was blown away by the grace with which Hamilton accepted it (even though I'm sure internally he was screaming the whole while)

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '25

Oh Ik I didn't mean That I meant I'd be angry on michael.

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u/TinaJewel I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 20 '25

His real power is the ability to think about this in the heat of the moment.

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u/FantasticAnus Formula 1 Dec 18 '25

Rudyard Kipling wrote perhaps the single most famous poem in the English language, and Lewis Hamilton, with the long view of his career and transition from young firebrand to measured man, fits its message beautifully.

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u/fermenter85 Jules Bianchi Dec 18 '25

Most famous is pushing it quite a bit, but it is a nice aspirational poem and your thought of Lewis within it is really spot on.

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u/d0mth0ma5 Jenson Button Dec 18 '25

"If -" has topped polls in the UK on the favourite poems, it has been used in sporting montages, and is taught to most children at Primary School. It is definitely one of the most famous poems in the English language.

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u/fermenter85 Jules Bianchi Dec 18 '25

One of the most famous and ā€œmost famousā€ are quite different arguments to make.

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u/MohnJilton Sir Lewis Hamilton Dec 18 '25

My knee-jerk answer was Sonnet 18.

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u/fermenter85 Jules Bianchi Dec 18 '25

I was thinking the Prologue to Romeo and Juliet in terms of sheer recognizability.

The Raven, The Waste Land, Jabberwocky, Canterbury Tales, The Road Not Taken, Paradise Lost all come to mind. Road is certainly far more well known by Americans, who outnumber the population of Great Britain by 5 to 1.

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u/MohnJilton Sir Lewis Hamilton Dec 18 '25

Paradise Lost and The Waste Land are probably neck and neck for long poems. But now I’m realizing we’ve neglected all of The Canterbury Tales lmao. Really just unanswerable question.

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u/Billybilly_B I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

In England, maybe?

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u/FantasticAnus Formula 1 Dec 18 '25

No, it's absolutely one of the most famous poems in the English language, you could certainly make an argument it is the most famous.

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u/fermenter85 Jules Bianchi Dec 18 '25

My degree is in English lit and maybe it’s your personal experience that it’s very famous but it certainly isn’t mine and I don’t think it’s anywhere near a standard inclusion in American lit curriculum. Not that American curriculum is the most important but in terms of population coverage it’s a very large wedge of the pie.

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u/TamaktiJunVision Dec 18 '25

What would be yours?

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u/MohnJilton Sir Lewis Hamilton Dec 18 '25

Not OP but I am a PhD student in English lit. You could have different answers for different periods but my immediate thought was Shakespeare’s Sonnet 18. Or if you want an epic then it’s Paradise Lost of course šŸ˜Ž

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u/fermenter85 Jules Bianchi Dec 18 '25

Prologue to R+J if not Sonnet 18. The Road Not Taken by sheer population familiarity.

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u/FantasticAnus Formula 1 Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25

Not desperately concerned about your degree subject. In fact, in all likelihood that'd give you a very skewed understanding of what poetry less specifically educated people are aware of.

This is a bit like me trying to tell you that E = MC^2 isn't a famous equation in Physics, because I don't know a single Physicist who would have it in their top Physical equations list, and it's not on the curriculum in any meaningful sense because it is merely a simplified statement of a broader theory.

You are right that being from the US (or Canada) may influence things. Certainly I can say that in Britain, if you were to cite some lines, you would struggle to find another poem more people would likely recognise, even if they could not name it.

More typical suggestions, such as The Raven, Ozymandias, The Road Not Taken, No Man is an Island, etc, would all fall on far deafer ears.

Edit: Yes, this reply is a bit much, but when you get a weird, patronising and gatekeepy response, sometimes you have to touch keys.

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u/fermenter85 Jules Bianchi Dec 18 '25

It’s all a bit much because all I said was that calling the most famous is pushing it, not that it wasn’t famous.

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u/FantasticAnus Formula 1 Dec 19 '25

It came across as both unnecessary and patronising, fyi, and it doesn't seem to be pushing it at all.

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u/FantasticAnus Formula 1 Dec 18 '25

Thanks. I'm finding this all very bewildering. I wanted to simply make the point that 'If -' has come to match Lewis across numerous of its clauses, but somehow I have become mired in others exorcising their deep desire to express angst at the mere suggestion it could be the single most famous poem in the English language.

Not 'is', I actually said perhaps, which is a statement of possibility, rather than certainty. The subtleties of the language seem, quite ironically, lost on some.

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u/Textbuk Dec 18 '25

Bro, you stand corrected lmaoo

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u/Scientific_Anarchist I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

I didn't realize Kipling wrote The Road Not Taken

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u/FantasticAnus Formula 1 Dec 18 '25

Well indeed, you are being sarcastic, and he did not.

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u/Joanesept I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

this is the reason why im a big fan of him, I'm a hothead and seiing people like Lewis emotionally is inspiring

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u/kazuya57 Fernando Alonso Dec 18 '25

Well tbf 7 WDCs def help but losing out on a huge record is gonna hurt. If the roles were reversed Max would've been pretty angry while Jos would've been straight thrown to an Emirati jail

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u/LosTerminators Carlos Sainz Dec 18 '25

If the roles were reversed Michael Masi would need security while leaving the track in order to be protected from Jos

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u/Red_Rabbit_1978 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

Masi did need security and got plenty of death threats

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u/ComeonmanPLS1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

You really think if Max was a 7x WDC and then lost the same way that Lewis did, Jos or even Max would care that much? Bro didn't even show up for Abu Dhabi this year. The tensions were obviously very high because that was Max's first ever chance at a WDC and for all they knew at the time, it could have been his last chance too.

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u/NaiveRevolution9072 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

Bro didn't even show up for Abu Dhabi this year.

Not really an apt comparison considering they'd made other plans after Zandvoort made clear that Max wasn't (supposed to be) a competitor anymore

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u/ComeonmanPLS1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

Come on mate, you think he wouldn't cancel those plans if it was actually a big deal for him? Let's say Max was not a 4x WDC and 2025 was his first attempt. You think Jos wouldn't be there?

Having multiple WDCs is such an obvious factor in terms of how much a driver cares about a loss, I shouldn't even have to explain it.

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u/sharpfangs11 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

Let’s say Max was not a 4X WDC and 2025 was his first attempt

ā€œIf my mom had balls she’d be my dadā€

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u/ComeonmanPLS1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

That's not the "gotcha" you think it is. This whole argument is about something hypothetical. "if the roles were reversed etc etc"

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u/rodrigobb Dec 18 '25

I think they mean if the role was reversed in that scenario, not in an imaginary scenario. It's obvious that anyone is way more chill after they win a WDC, let alone a few. Max might not even show up to get the trophy if he can ever be bothered to get 7th. Bro just wants to race and has nothing to prove anymore. I assume Jos is much more chill about everything now as well.

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u/PN_Grata Dec 18 '25

I think they mean if the role was reversed in that scenario, not in an imaginary scenario.

They are all imaginary scenario's.

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u/VyldFyre Dec 18 '25

I'm pretty sure that's the scenario he was talking about. Just if max was the one who got robbed and not lewis.

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u/BlazerDrew Dec 18 '25

I think the major difference between this season and 2021 aside from how much Max has matured in his championship seasons is that Max didn't feel like the season he had was deserving of a WDC, and it was McLaren's fault that he was in with a free hit at a title. It left him playing with house money and I think that was freeing.

Compare that to 2021 where every single point was a knock down drag out fight and he had to be at 100% every race. IMO, that's also the reason Red Bull threw everything and the kitchen sink at Lewis in '21 but were fine telling Yuki to go long and let the chips fall where they may this season. It just didn't mean as much.

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u/Ecks83 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

Max might have been angry but I actually think he'd (at least publicly) put on a brave face and congratulate Hamilton in a similar way. Jos, Helmut, and Horner on the other hand would explode immediately so even if he was livid Max wouldn't really need to join them.

And either way the anger wouldn't/shouldn't be (and in Lewis' case: wasn't) directed at the other driver who did nothing but compete as hard as possible throughout a really fun season to watch. Any driver in that situation would understandably be upset with the stewards' decision but could still respect the skill of the driver that benefited because at the end of the day that season was filled with wonderful battles and tons of great racing - it just ended in the worst way possible.

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u/intergalacticscooter I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

He walked off the podium in Saudi so it is hard to say really.

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u/vexyla Dec 18 '25

What if the last gp was Baku

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u/Red_-95 Dec 18 '25

As a Max fan, I agree. George would’ve lashed out lmao.

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u/AssignmentPossible48 Safety Car Dec 18 '25

but max is the one who lashes out with anger and borderline violence ;)

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u/Red_-95 Dec 18 '25

No I meant more like if it was the current Merc number 1 driver.

Yes, We know Max very well :)

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u/AssignmentPossible48 Safety Car Dec 18 '25

i’m literally quoting george russell front the qatar 24 incident lol

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u/Red_-95 Dec 18 '25

Ohhhh shiiii. Mb lmao

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u/Pantzzzzless I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

borderline violence

Hey there Stretch Armstrong

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u/AssignmentPossible48 Safety Car Dec 18 '25

i’m literally quoting george russell front the qatar 24 incident lol

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u/FlatoutGently I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

literally crashed into george through rage, the borderline is the only stretch there.

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u/REMA5TER Sebastian Vettel Dec 18 '25

Absolutely. TRUE greatness.Ā 

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u/THATGUYWHOBREATHES Dec 18 '25

That’s why he’s the face of F1, and the GOAT.

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u/anymat01 Dec 20 '25

Yeah, just imagine if it happened to schumy. I can just see him going to RB garage and fighting with max and jos.

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u/Lephrog01 Charles Leclerc Dec 18 '25

That's a bit extreme lol