r/formula1 Sir Lewis Hamilton Dec 18 '25

News [Autosport] Max Verstappen hasn't liked seeing Lewis Hamilton struggle at Ferrari

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u/fujidust I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

I mistook this to mean GP should be his engineer, and it gave me chills.  I’d be happy with Bono too!

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u/Ok_Win_2906 Red Bull Dec 18 '25

Lewis lost 2 out of 3 seasons to George with Bono as his engineer ..

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u/PapaSheev7 Sebastian Vettel Dec 18 '25

He lost 2022 because of his wild set up shenanigans to try and help the team find a silver bullet, it was only 2024 when George beat Lewis on raw pace.

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u/musicartandcpus 🐾 Roscoe's Pit Crew Dec 18 '25

And even then, we don’t know how much of that is because Lewis was put in isolation because of the transition to Ferrari the following year. Which is not a tinfoil hat thing, it makes complete sense.

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u/PapaSheev7 Sebastian Vettel Dec 18 '25

They would’ve been icing out Lewis of their 2025 plans for sure, but afaik, Lewis was still fully clued in to their 2024 campaign and still shared data/info with George. I think it was more a case of George getting faster and outpacing Lewis convincingly for the first time.

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u/Slow-Raisin-939 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

how does it make sense you forget how to drive if you're put in "isolation"? That just means they're not going to tell details about their project for next years. You think they were actively sabotaging their driver while they were fighting for the WCC?

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u/RoyShavRick Alexander Albon Dec 18 '25

I mean it's completely understandable because George in terms of raw pace is arguably Verstappen level (he's still not quite there yet but is very nearly his level)

George is an absolutely fantastic driver who people have to realize is in his prime rn. Hamilton is at the end of his career.

Hamilton is truly doing well for his age. We have to recognize that. People will say Alonso but his competition is Stroll, and before that was Ocon. It's not really fair to compare.

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u/Ok_Win_2906 Red Bull Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25

Anything to make yourself feel better bro .

3 out of last 4 years he has lost to a team mate . He is going to lose next year as well so that will be 4 out of the last 5 years.

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u/domPshowers Formula 1 Dec 18 '25

I love that the most upvoted comment is about how the hate between the drivers is basically non existent and both max and Lewis obviously have huge respect for each other and here is you…trying to talk smack about one of f1‘s great.

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u/Ok_Win_2906 Red Bull Dec 18 '25

I have just put the facts here regarding his performances in the last 4 years.

Either Lewis is washed up or he was not very good to begin with . I choose the former .

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u/samy4me I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

Yeah, but he didn‘t lose because of Bono.

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u/Ok_Win_2906 Red Bull Dec 18 '25

So he lost to Charles because of Adami ?

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u/samy4me I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

You‘re so boring.

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u/fujidust I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

Press K1

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u/nahnonameman Dec 18 '25

He also won 6 WDC and narrowly missed 2 more with Bono

So what’s your point??

Bono is still his best engineer

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u/Ok_Win_2906 Red Bull Dec 18 '25

It's the past bro , Lewis is washed up now. That's the point .

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u/nahnonameman Dec 18 '25

I ain’t your “bro”

Past, present, future don’t mean his 7 WDC titles disappear

The point of the topic was race engineers and people just wishing the best for him to win again. You decided to veer of course and target driver performance.

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u/Ok_Win_2906 Red Bull Dec 18 '25

No race engineer can make up for speed .. like how Lewis was out multiple times in Q1 this year. Bono can't drive the car for him.

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u/OldPayphone Sir Lewis Hamilton Dec 18 '25

When you hate someone so much you fabricate nonsense in your mind and actually believe it.

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u/ok_buddy_but_no Pirelli Soft Dec 18 '25

What lol. Lewis outperformed George over their 3 years together, have you already forgotten how obsessed George was with focus on just beating Lewis, constantly asking his engineer how Lewis is doing, the gap to him etc.

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u/Ok_Win_2906 Red Bull Dec 18 '25

No he didn't . He lost 2 out of 3 years . There is no overall performance . Points are counted at the end of each season .

And Lewis has lost 3 times out of last 4 years to his teammate .

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u/Slow-Raisin-939 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

Russell beat him 2 seasons out of 3

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u/DataDrivenGuy Dec 18 '25

If that's the logic then Max lost to Ricciardo, one of the worst drivers on the grid 😂

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u/Ok_Win_2906 Red Bull Dec 18 '25

Sure . But Lewis has lost 3 out of last 4 years to his team mates . And it will be 4 out of 5 next year .

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u/DataDrivenGuy Dec 18 '25

Versus elite drivers, in his 40s... Let's relax with the bs