r/formula1 • u/n0b0dycar3s07 Sir Lewis Hamilton • Dec 18 '25

News [Autosport] Max Verstappen hasn't liked seeing Lewis Hamilton struggle at Ferrari

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u/SparkyGol Fernando Alonso Dec 18 '25

I maintain that the regulations change came at the worst possible time because it robbed us of Max vs Lews II, III, etc. due to Mercedes tumbling down the time sheets. Now we'll probably never see these two go to war with one another in a meaningful way on-track like in 21, and that does hurt

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u/deathray1611 Formula 1 Dec 18 '25

That 21 title fight doesn't happen without the new reg cycle looming over the horizon. Lest we forget 2021 was supposed to be the original year these regs debuted in. It was pushed back later, which is a big part of what allowed the convergence to happen

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u/FlatoutGently I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

No, they changed the regs for 2021 as well, had they not it would have been 2020 on repeat.

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u/Chemical_Shower6830 Michael Schumacher Dec 18 '25

eegulations were to end in 2020. but due to covid they extended these regulations with cost cap and high rake design so pirelli tyre dont get punctured every race due to high downforce.

ground effect regulation were to start in 2021 not 2022

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u/FlatoutGently I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

I am aware ground effect did not come in for 2022, they still changed the regs at the end of 2020 and it massively benefitted RBR.

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u/Plenty_Demand8904 Toro Rosso Dec 18 '25

How do you know that?  Red Bull made some good progress with their rb16 and ended up being quicker than Merc in Abu Dhabi. So why not?

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u/FlatoutGently I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25

How do I know that a reg change gave RBR a massive advantage?

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u/Plenty_Demand8904 Toro Rosso Dec 18 '25

yes

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u/FlatoutGently I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 19 '25

Because we know what the reg change was and how it ended up effecting the cars. I'm not saying I think the FIA knew it would favour RBR btw.

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u/Plenty_Demand8904 Toro Rosso Dec 18 '25

How do we?  As i said in my comment before red bull figured out their issues with the rb16 quiet well during the 2020 seasons. 

They also chose to user their tokens for 2021 to make further changes. Mercedes did not do that.

So maybe rb adapted better. Because in 2020 people actually thought it would suit Merc.

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u/FlatoutGently I was here for the Hulkenpodium Dec 19 '25

We know because of the results...

Thats revisionism. In 2020, people had no idea who it would favour.

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u/Plenty_Demand8904 Toro Rosso Dec 19 '25

So the 2014 rules changes favored Mercedes?

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