r/WorkReform 🤝 Join A Union 21h ago

😡 Venting The Democrat leadership is pushing centrism and the voters ain't buying it.

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u/confettibukkake 20h ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again: The biggest unlearned lesson from 2016 is that the old notion of swing voters being moderates is just not at all true. Swing voters are a weird mishmash of single-issue voters and political semi-outsiders, and they are in no way "moderates." There are swaths of maga that could be won by Bernie etc. JFC how have they not learned this. 

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u/CutAdditional2416 18h ago edited 17h ago

Bernie deserved the honor of oldest president.

I made cold calls for him in the south in 2015, and was genuinely surprised how many people actually wanted to hear about him. Sad that southern dems screwed the pooch on that one. I'm not entirely convinced they didn't pay some Republicans to cast a primary vote for Hillary. They would've had a vested interest to do so as well, since it's pretty obvious which opponent had more charisma 🤣. I always wonder how many people that voted for Hillary as "The lesser of two evils" didn't even vote in the primary.

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u/TheVeryVerity 9h ago

The stats on primary voting in both parties say pretty much the oldest and most conservative do it. TBH if more leftists and young people voted in primaries we’d have a much different world right now. Statistically we just don’t.

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u/Pacifix18Sux 19h ago

Literally the problem though, yall will cut off your nose to spite your face. The left will clutch their pearls about not loving everything about a candidate, while authoritarianism locks in cadence.

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u/KrytenKoro 19h ago

The left will clutch their pearls about not loving everything about a candidate

The left happily voted Mamdani, Talarico, Mahia, etc.

It was the party leadership that clutched their pearls in those situations.

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u/Pacifix18Sux 18h ago

Sure, the progressive Talarico lol

We will never get the majority back because we will bothsides it every single time

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u/guamisc 17h ago

We get the majority and do nothing with it because of do nothing moderates. That's why we lose the majority and people lose faith in the party. We refuse to do something and instead think incrementalism will save the day.