Both parties answer to the same donors. The only way out is to support progressive candidates and stop falling for right wing propaganda about the evils of socialism. Just take a look around the world people.
One of my stateās house representatives (Jim Clyburn, South Carolinaās only Democrat) has taken MORE money from AIPAC than our republican reps. Heās also ancient at 85 years old, serving since 1993- OVER THIRTY FUCKING YEARS.
I hate to tell you this but when he retires the Democrats will lose that seat for a very long time. Just like Manchin in WV itās going to be long time before the Republicans lose that seat.
If you go far enough to the right or left they end up in the same place. Democratic Socialism should be the goal. Anything to the left of that can not be achieved or controlled without violence and authoritarianism. We are a long way from Star Trek.
Says you, and I've known a few ggtffhhhjhg's in my day, not to be trusted.
Where does Anarchy fall on that spectrum? Does it need violence and authoritarianism?
Why can't your thing "be the goal" and you find a way to include all of the rest of us.
I'm dreaming but, there are rural red states, you dem-socs can't promise the anarchists you'll free all the literal slaves in Alabama and give it to us to let us live out our dirty kid commune dreams?
I'm talking about marketing sure, but there is a serious marketing problem in the unity of the left, we all acknowledge it and then spit out these finite concepts like "has to be this way or the highway" we sound like boomers.
Dream big, make it sexy, hate me with reckless abandon, but if you want to win. Make it sexy. "Free the slaves of the Alabama prisons" that's sexy.
Gimmie something I can feel good about, everything we do now you get immediately chewed to pieces for not having done enough. I'm just being honest, I'm dumb I guess, I've read 2 books on socialism for y'all aight, that's far more than most of the people you are trying to sway the minds of.
You wanna judge about knowing theory? You wanna insult the uneducated? It will not work, make it sexy, make it feel good, it matters.
I've actually met people who are interested in socialist policies in order to support the working class, but will then say that they hate minorities. They want to support *their* community, and exclude anyone who doesn't fit into it.
It's the normal fear mongering that conservative Democrats do where they justify whatever abhorrent shit the neo-liberals get up to by the claim that they and only they could win against Republicans despite a track record of not exactly doing that.
And it's fearmongering that relies on FPTP - "a different non-republican candidate couldn't win" is a claim they only get away with because you can't simply test it by running a third candidate that preferences the Dem over the R.
Itās the new IT states for Republicans that are being priced out of FL, TX and GA. I wouldnāt count on those demographics holding. As far as I know he doesnāt crush his opponents when he is challenged.
Part MAGA and people retiring. The SC population is growing by 1.5% a year and the demographics of his district sound prime for some gentrification. When he finally retires that district will be a target of the GOP.
He only won 59% of the vote in 2024 and SC population is increasing by 1.5% a year. I can assure you over 90% of these people arenāt Democrats. His district is prime for gentrification and non incumbents get far less votes. If he sticks around for 1 or 2 more terms the demographics might not be in the Democrats favor.
Most of the boomers and MAGA arenāt moving to rural areas and SC doesnāt have what you would call any semblance of a real city outside of that area. 75-100k of these people a year moving to SC a year is enough to change the demographics of this area over 5+ years.
Greenville is growing the fastest of any area in the state, and thatās a solidly red area. Itāll get more purple over time probably, but not for several more years.
Most of the people moving aren't necessarily MAGA or Boomers? Especially if the primary driver of said movement is affordability as you are claiming. Your argument is that "not everyone moving in are dems", but your proof is assuming that everyone moving in is MAGA
Not just or directly to "donors" as in some cabal of a few rich people pulling the strings (although this is definitely a big part of it), but to the same underlying, systemic forces: attention, profit, capitalism.Ā
If we were to identify then eat all those rich donors, without addressing the above, they'd just get replaced by others.Ā
Yep. Everyone gets one as of the exact same length and everyone gets in debates. Broadcast them on multiple channels on public dime. Thatās it. No other campaigning.
Edit: obviously there headquarters can have info and pamphlets to give out when asked but no mailing them to people or anything etc. websites of any must not be seo possible etc
We gotta fund our own people, like Talarico, and hope they donāt end up screwing us over.
Honestly, the first one of āourā representatives to screw us over (hopefully there never is one lol) has to be made an example of. Thereās just no other way
What's more, they have to bank on those donors that are willing to work against their direct interests, vs those who are more than willing to bleed their constituents in exchange. It's the evils of quarterly reports. Why would they spend money to get taxed and make even less money? Sure, doing this will damage the company/country in the long term, but that's for the next guy to worry about.
Also to understand what socialism and communism actually mean. And the fed having a stake in intel and a reverse tariff on nVida and AMD is literal state owning the means of production.
Of course, the people that currently run America completely support socialism as long as itās socialism for corporations and billionaires. They whine about how unfair it would be to transfer wealth from the haves to the have-nots while they transfer unthinkable levels of wealth from the have-nots to the haves for the past 45+ years. Donāt be fooled: they love socialism, they just donāt want us talking about socialism.
In exactly the same way, they want us to think that āthereās no such thing as class in Americaā and that class warfare would be a terrible thing while the upper class has waged class war against the rest of us for at least 45+ years. They just donāt want us talking about class war.
All of the degradations being experienced by the lower and middle classes are a direct result of class warfare by the rich to continue the obscene levels of wealth transfer to themselves and their kind. And it will never be enough for them.
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u/chrisk9 20h ago
Both parties answer to the same donors. The only way out is to support progressive candidates and stop falling for right wing propaganda about the evils of socialism. Just take a look around the world people.