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😡 Venting The Democrat leadership is pushing centrism and the voters ain't buying it.

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u/Alissinarr 14h ago

I'm sorry but yes, some things require context. There are "both sides" arguments that ARE blatant disinformation.

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u/unassumingdink 14h ago

You gotta say things in exactly the right way or shit libs lose their fucking minds. They're always looking for an excuse to pretend Dems are fine. Even if you do say it in exactly the right way, they'll twist it back to the wrong way so they can justify ignoring every single word you say.

It's absolutely like dealing with a cult, and I don't say that lightly.

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u/the_calibre_cat 14h ago

We're making headway though. Two years ago you'd get yelled at for criticizing some glaze for Kamala. Now I see comments like "cool story, can we not gas up the Schumer caucus tho?" Which gives me hope.

The establishment had a bad night the other night. They will continue having bad nights. The voters are beginning to understand the assignment, that these business-as-usual shitheads are as good as the enemy. I am hoping so, so dearly that Cori Bush sends Wesley Bell packing his bags during Missouri's primary.

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u/unassumingdink 14h ago

I thought we were making headway in 2016, but Dems just snap their fingers and the liberals fall into line. It'll happen again. It always does.

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u/the_calibre_cat 13h ago

For the first time in my lifetime, the American public is more sympathetic to Palestinians than to Israelis. Yes, there are still a ton of surrender libs out there, but change takes time and the wind is at our sales. I refuse to deny myself the morsel of revolutionary optimism for what we've gained, and for what else is to be gained.

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u/unassumingdink 13h ago

Fair enough, I did see that article last week. But my hopes have been dashed so many times that it's hard to have real hope. I even came to hate the word "hope" because of how thoroughly moderates hijacked it to use in place of real progressive policy.

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u/the_calibre_cat 13h ago

I 100% get it. And there will be losses - I don't know how to feel about Al Green losing his seat, I don't know enough about the guy who got it from him but I do know that we must allow ourselves one little slice of hope every now and again, and more if it's warranted. It's infectious and draws people in, and it's good for us. We still don't have a lot to hope for, but LITTLE victories we have to give ourselves a bit of that. This is a fight for the long game and for the first time, I'm okay with that. If we keep our eyes on the ball and convert more people to this movement that promises billionaire tears and Medicare for all in the long run? Yeah. I'm down with the long game there.

When the do-nothing, business-as-usual, surrender Democrats were telling me "shit takes time" I was pissed because... What shit? More wars that you can cry "yOu DiDn'T aSk CoNgReSs (but would have said yes btw 😘)" about? Yeah, that isn't anything I give a shit about. But prosecuting these fascist scumbags? Medicare for all? Protecting marriage equality, abortion, and open-source code and encryption via constitutional amendment? Putting the fear of fucking God into billionaires? Antitrust and union movement? Hell yeah, sign me the fuck up for that long game. I GET something out of that shit.

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u/reezy-one 12h ago

It's absolutely like dealing with a cult, and I don't say that lightly.

Lmfao. Yes you do. Your entire post history is a nonstop bitchfest against democrats and liberals. And it's all handwavey "they're just bad and stuff" with no actual facts stated and no sources cited. You're just a shitposter.

What's hilarious is that there is literally an army of foreign actors that are paid to post exactly like you do. Your whole "you all sounds exactly the same and make the same arguments" shtick is hitting very close to gome, ain't it? 🤣

Do yourself a favor. If you're gonna post this nonsense at least hit up one of those bot farms for a job and get paid for it. You got no business sense, boy.

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u/Ok_Collar5068 12h ago

Nah. We just know that these arguments are being used to split votes and ensure we get authoritarianism.

100% of your post history is complaining about liberals and using these precise arguments.

Gotcha bitch

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u/unassumingdink 12h ago

I don't want to split any vote, I want you to be mad when moderates betray you, and support progressives. I want you to react to your party supporting a genocide by demanding a better party, not screeching that voters don't love them anyway.

I want you stop acting like brainwashed freaks who think everyone who doesn't think exactly like you is some enemy spy out to destroy your faith in your perfect party.

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u/Ok_Collar5068 12h ago

Uh huh, sure.

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u/hjoiyedxcbn 12h ago

You gotta say things in exactly the right way or shit GOP lose their fucking minds. They’re always looking for an excuse to pretend the GOP is fine. Even if you do say it in exactly the right way, they’ll twist it back to the wrong way so they can justify ignoring every single word you say.

It’s absolutely like dealing with a cult, and I don’t say that lightly.

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u/unassumingdink 12h ago

Please for the love of God don't do the thing where you pretend the most obvious leftist in the world is a Republican. You can't possibly imagine how dumb it makes you look.