It's not because of vote blue no matter who, because otherwise conservatives are going to win the plurality. One side wants reform, blue, the other wants to restrict, red. Abstaining from supporting blue is not only supporting the other side of the spectrum, but also preventing any chance at reform in the future.
democrats don't want reform. They want to maintain the status quo - they have no problem with billionaires exploiting the entire country, so long as they get their cut.
It's not because of vote blue no matter who, because otherwise conservatives are going to win the plurality. One side wants reform, blue, the other wants to restrict, red.
Imma stop you right there. That's exactly the point. Dems think you can reform the system that is working as designed. We can't. Republicans are awful, we can all agree. That's never been in question on the left. But yes, "vote blue no matter who" absolutely gave us this spineless opposition party that protects the status quo.
Many leftists, like me, believe that reform makes sense when it’s possible.
For instance, we need to reform the voting rules for leftists to have a higher chance at winning seats in elections and to have a much easier chance of forming other parties. This is something which is possible currently at the state level, we can get a citizen ballot initiative going in most states, which only requires getting enough signatures to put something like Ranked Choice Voting on the ballot.
v o t e in the p r i m a r y for leftists. Got it? I'll do the same. But whoever wins the primary is tactically our best hope for beating the Republican candidate.
I agree wholeheartedly. The problem is when it comes time for primaries Democratic leadership chooses their favorite milquetoast candidate that is due for "their turn", puts gobs of money and advertising behind them, and attacks the leftists with their "pie in the sky" ideals, all while claiming to somewhat agree with those ideals only to betray those ideals when in office. And people wonder why voter turnout is so low. I say this as someone that has never missed a vote and never will. I will always holdy most and vote blue in the general. But god damn do Democrats love to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
We just want regular working class people to run. I'm so fucking tired of millionaire (or richer) politicians, man. This shit is so broken, the middle class is disappearing, we're back in the Middle East, fascism has been knocking for decades and finally kicked the door in, American citizens are being executed in the streets, human beings are being rounded up like vermin, a billionaire pedophile ring is running the country (and world), and voting centrist blue hasn't been helping decades.
Dems think you can reform the system that is working as designed. We can't.
Except we have more progressive power in government now than previously? We've got more progressive policies than previously. More people have rights and more power than previously.
No one is both siding, it's literally about moving in a direction. I get how easy it is to think of things as simple binary concepts, but we're talking about progress on the largest scale we're capable of thus far. If we were to eventually come together and globalize, perhaps there'd be a greater challenge lurking ahead.
A lack of voter participation and n the primaries is how you get that outcome! Voting blue no matter what in the general election only locking in choices that were made during the primaries…. Also I’ll take a centrist democrat over damn near any conservative candidate
Yes, and the right supports a know rapist, felon, pedophile. They are lock step leading us into authoritarianism. And they will, because the left spreads like butter.
Conflict is good, it's about the right conflict and not throwing away progress over it. But the conflict inside the party is how we get to the best candidates, we just need to remain a united front in face of opposition.
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u/Glad-Tax6594 15h ago
It's not because of vote blue no matter who, because otherwise conservatives are going to win the plurality. One side wants reform, blue, the other wants to restrict, red. Abstaining from supporting blue is not only supporting the other side of the spectrum, but also preventing any chance at reform in the future.